Vuelta 2014 Stage 15 *Spoilers*

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  • jamie1012
    jamie1012 Posts: 171
    Froome is a bit like the Terminator. Don't look back, don't wait around to make sure he's dead, just run.
  • cal_stewart
    cal_stewart Posts: 1,840
    Froome about to start his 1km tt
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,241
    Valverde again showing that bonus seconds reward attacking riding
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  • milton50
    milton50 Posts: 3,856
    Contador loses a couple more seconds to JRod and gains a few on Froome. I thought that was brilliant racing.

    Contador is the best rider in the race but he's not good enough to finish everyone off.
  • mfin
    mfin Posts: 6,729
    Last slope was nothing really, so short.
  • gsk82
    gsk82 Posts: 3,570
    that 17% sections was immense :?

    valverde is such a pr1ck
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  • hammerite
    hammerite Posts: 3,408
    mfin wrote:
    Last slope was nothing really, so short.

    No idea why they highlighted it on the profile.
  • cal_stewart
    cal_stewart Posts: 1,840
    Tomorrow should be good. Bertie was trying his best to put a good bit of time into froome with multiple attacks and froome just rode tempo. The mind games comment is true, think bertie losing it
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  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,310
    Three idiots and they even speak the same langauge. If they worked together, they could have dropped Froome by a couple of minutes and he would be out of the podium games... instead they played and achieved nothing... no stage, no time, nothing...
    They are seasoned riders and should know better
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  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    2012 deja vu.
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  • cal_stewart
    cal_stewart Posts: 1,840
    RichN95 wrote:
    Valverde again showing that bonus seconds reward attacking riding

    lol :o

    I like piti just because he's so blatant
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,241
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    Three idiots and they even speak the same langauge. If they worked together, they could have dropped Froome by a couple of minutes and he would be out of the podium games... instead they played and achieved nothing... no stage, no time, nothing...
    They are seasoned riders and should know better
    I don't think they like each other though. I think they'd all rather Froome won than one of the others.
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  • hammerite
    hammerite Posts: 3,408
    Cal_Stewart wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    Valverde again showing that bonus seconds reward attacking riding

    lol :o

    I like piti just because he's so blatant

    At least he was honest before the stage and said he wasn't going to attack today. He tried yesterday and lost time, so you can't really blame him today.

    If anything Valverde showed the most intelligence of the three. At one point he was at the front and flicked his elbow to see if they would work together.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,241
    hammerite wrote:
    Cal_Stewart wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    Valverde again showing that bonus seconds reward attacking riding

    lol :o

    I like piti just because he's so blatant

    At least he was honest before the stage and said he wasn't going to attack today. He tried yesterday and lost time, so you can't really blame him today.

    If anything Valverde showed the most intelligence of the three. At one point he was at the front and flicked his elbow to see if they would work together.
    My comment was anti-bonerfictations rather than anti-Valverde.
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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,537
    RichN95 wrote:
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    Three idiots and they even speak the same langauge. If they worked together, they could have dropped Froome by a couple of minutes and he would be out of the podium games... instead they played and achieved nothing... no stage, no time, nothing...
    They are seasoned riders and should know better
    I don't think they like each other though. I think they'd all rather Froome won than one of the others.

    Contador was reeking of desperation to put time into Froome. No surprise the others just sat in and let him try. They can play him like that again and again and pull time from the bonuses.
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  • milton50
    milton50 Posts: 3,856
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    Three idiots and they even speak the same langauge. If they worked together, they could have dropped Froome by a couple of minutes and he would be out of the podium games... instead they played and achieved nothing... no stage, no time, nothing...
    They are seasoned riders and should know better

    That's pro cycling though. As soon as you show others that you blink first then people will take advantage of you.

    It's a bit like what Ayrton Senna said about motor sport. If another driver tries to put a 50/50 pass on you, and you let him through rather than cause an accident, then everytime after that people know you will yield to them under pressure.
  • Macaloon
    Macaloon Posts: 5,545
    ^ High-altitude chess/high-stakes poker hybrid: a sensational sport at times.
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  • frisbee
    frisbee Posts: 691
    Using Valverde as the benchmark, they all seem to be pretty short of Nibali, he had a few gears in hand over Valverde.
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Macaloon wrote:
    ^ High-altitude chess/high-stakes poker hybrid: a sensational sport at times.

    Froome is playing chess - Has a strategy and is following it. Bert is playing Whack-A-Mole. See's Froome, tries to attack. Completely reactionary and not very effective.

    Is there much more of the stupid steep stuff? Not looked at the route much yet
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  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,310
    frisbee wrote:
    Using Valverde as the benchmark, they all seem to be pretty short of Nibali, he had a few gears in hand over Valverde.

    Agree... and Valverde surely topped his form for the Tour rather than the Vuelta
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  • phreak
    phreak Posts: 2,941
    People are lauding Froome for being clever with his pacing and all that, but he's not going to win the race unless he puts time into Contador. He won't do that by yo-yo'ing off the back. He hasn't given much of a suggestion that he's got the form to actually gap his rivals at all yet.

    I wonder if he's saving himself for tomorrow. He didn't seem to have many team-mates with him, which was a surprise given the relatively flat route leading to the final climb. Are Sky going to make it a tough day tomorrow?
  • thomthom
    thomthom Posts: 3,574
    phreak wrote:
    People are lauding Froome for being clever with his pacing and all that, but he's not going to win the race unless he puts time into Contador. He won't do that by yo-yo'ing off the back. He hasn't given much of a suggestion that he's got the form to actually gap his rivals at all yet.

    He has been very open saying he is no where near a winning form. That's why he is riding calculated.
  • phreak
    phreak Posts: 2,941
    Is he riding into form though? There are still enough stages for him to claw back that time, but he'd need much better form than he currently has.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,241
    iainf72 wrote:
    Is there much more of the stupid steep stuff? Not looked at the route much yet
    There's some on the MTF on stage 20. A couple of Kms at 15-18%, but it's near the beginning with 8km to go after it.
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  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,310
    phreak wrote:
    Is he riding into form though? There are still enough stages for him to claw back that time, but he'd need much better form than he currently has.

    There is only tomorrow and the penultimate stage... the rest is easy stuff and the final TT... well, you can put 10-20 seconds into an opponent in 9 Km
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,708
    edited September 2014
    At least the final climb was fascinating.
    Three Spanish sprinters desperately trying to stay away from Mo Farrar!

    Great rides from Barguil and Martin, especially after his mishap and long chase back.
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  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,310
    phreak wrote:
    Is he riding into form though? There are still enough stages for him to claw back that time, but he'd need much better form than he currently has.

    There is only tomorrow and the penultimate stage... the rest is easy stuff and the final TT... well, you can put 10-20 seconds into an opponent in 9 Km
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  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,310
    phreak wrote:
    Is he riding into form though? There are still enough stages for him to claw back that time, but he'd need much better form than he currently has.

    There is only tomorrow and the penultimate stage... the rest is easy stuff and the final TT... well, you can put 10-20 seconds into an opponent in 9 Km
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,708
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    phreak wrote:
    Is he riding into form though? There are still enough stages for him to claw back that time, but he'd need much better form than he currently has.

    There is only tomorrow and the penultimate stage... the rest is easy stuff and the final TT... well, you can put 10-20 seconds into an opponent in 9 Km

    Erhmm......

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  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Well I am really pleased for Niemiec even if few on here seem to care he won. Congratulations.

    Good job that Contador has thoughts of attacking. Let's hope he puts together a sustained attack soon.

    Valverde is something special. Few are able to maintain from from one end of the season to the other year after year.

    JRod surprising jump up in form and im hoping he holds it - if Contador doesnt win it would be great if he did.

    I agree those three should work together more but they never have and never will.

    Aru; pure talent. Barguil; great job.

    In US atm so cant watch these stages properly but hope tomorrow will be a cracker.

    Nice that it is close on GC. This race could do with Quintana given he is not the type to hang on then sprint.
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