The Irony Thread

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  • ballysmateballysmate Posts: 13,026
    Should I, as a white male, feel affronted that Whacko tried to white up? Or should that be whiteface?
    Is the term 'paleface' suitable or is it offensive?
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 43,769 Lives Here
    ballysmate wrote:
    Should I, as a white male, feel affronted that Whacko tried to white up? Or should that be whiteface?
    Is the term 'paleface' suitable or is it offensive?

    Should you, as someone who doesn’t self identify as a thicko, understand and consider the historical context of racism, before making stupid remarks?
  • Stevo_666Stevo_666 Posts: 36,212
    ballysmate wrote:
    Should I, as a white male, feel affronted that Whacko tried to white up? Or should that be whiteface?
    Is the term 'paleface' suitable or is it offensive?
    I wonder whether this guy could be in trouble now?

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  • ballysmateballysmate Posts: 13,026
    ballysmate wrote:
    Should I, as a white male, feel affronted that Whacko tried to white up? Or should that be whiteface?
    Is the term 'paleface' suitable or is it offensive?

    Should you, as someone who doesn’t self identify as a thicko, understand and consider the historical context of racism, before making stupid remarks?

    Thicko? That's not a very enlightened expression for a 'woke' person like yourself is it?
    Intellectually challenged, if you don't mind, you humourless [email protected]
  • rjsterryrjsterry Posts: 15,240
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    ballysmate wrote:
    Should I, as a white male, feel affronted that Whacko tried to white up? Or should that be whiteface?
    Is the term 'paleface' suitable or is it offensive?
    I wonder whether this guy could be in trouble now?

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    Whoosh.
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  • Stevo_666Stevo_666 Posts: 36,212
    rjsterry wrote:
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    ballysmate wrote:
    Should I, as a white male, feel affronted that Whacko tried to white up? Or should that be whiteface?
    Is the term 'paleface' suitable or is it offensive?
    I wonder whether this guy could be in trouble now?

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    Whoosh.
    Don't worry, I didn't expect everyone to get it.
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  • chris_basschris_bass Posts: 4,855
    ballysmate wrote:
    Should I, as a white male, feel affronted that Whacko tried to white up? Or should that be whiteface?
    Is the term 'paleface' suitable or is it offensive?

    yeah - i mean white people get it so bad, I dont know what the civil rights movement was making such a fuss about back then - at least they could go to a fancy dress party as whoever they wanted, pffft
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  • ballysmateballysmate Posts: 13,026
    Chris Bass wrote:
    ballysmate wrote:
    Should I, as a white male, feel affronted that Whacko tried to white up? Or should that be whiteface?
    Is the term 'paleface' suitable or is it offensive?

    yeah - i mean white people get it so bad, I dont know what the civil rights movement was making such a fuss about back then - at least they could go to a fancy dress party as whoever they wanted, pffft

    So that's a 'No' then?
    Thought not.
  • chris_basschris_bass Posts: 4,855
    ballysmate wrote:
    Chris Bass wrote:
    ballysmate wrote:
    Should I, as a white male, feel affronted that Whacko tried to white up? Or should that be whiteface?
    Is the term 'paleface' suitable or is it offensive?

    yeah - i mean white people get it so bad, I dont know what the civil rights movement was making such a fuss about back then - at least they could go to a fancy dress party as whoever they wanted, pffft

    So that's a 'No' then?
    Thought not.

    You shouldn't do or feel anything as a white male, just as yourself! If you want to be offended or whatever, go for it
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  • rjsterryrjsterry Posts: 15,240
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    Don't worry, I didn't expect everyone to get it.

    I'm not entirely sure you did either, but never mind.
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  • Stevo_666Stevo_666 Posts: 36,212
    rjsterry wrote:
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    Don't worry, I didn't expect everyone to get it.

    I'm not entirely sure you did either, but never mind.
    You didn't try to explain your point so I didn't bother to think about it. Got dose of 'rickitis'? :wink:
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  • Robert88Robert88 Posts: 2,722
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    rjsterry wrote:
    ballysmate wrote:
    The super woke Justin Trudeau being outed as the Al Jolson of politics.
    Anyone who had looked into him in any detail knew he was not quite what he seemed.
    In what way? (I haven't paid too much attention to him tbh).

    In any event, more than a little embarrassing. Imagine the forum activity this would generate if it was BoJo or Trump.

    In their case it would be "Dog Bites Man" whereas this is more like "Man Bites Dog". Do you see the difference?
  • rjsterryrjsterry Posts: 15,240
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    rjsterry wrote:
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    Don't worry, I didn't expect everyone to get it.

    I'm not entirely sure you did either, but never mind.
    You didn't try to explain your point so I didn't bother to think about it. Got dose of 'rickitis'? :wink:

    It's a white guy playing a white guy. It's taking the p*ss out of middle class, suburban, white kids adopting inner city black street culture because they think it's cool, but not really getting it.
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  • Stevo_666Stevo_666 Posts: 36,212
    rjsterry wrote:
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    rjsterry wrote:
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    Don't worry, I didn't expect everyone to get it.

    I'm not entirely sure you did either, but never mind.
    You didn't try to explain your point so I didn't bother to think about it. Got dose of 'rickitis'? :wink:

    It's a white guy playing a white guy. It's taking the p*ss out of middle class, suburban, white kids adopting inner city black street culture because they think it's cool, but not really getting it.
    Not exactly. It's a white guy playing an Asian character who is pretending to be black.

    https://youtu.be/QaZbrqE1CF4
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  • rjsterryrjsterry Posts: 15,240
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    rjsterry wrote:
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    rjsterry wrote:
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    Don't worry, I didn't expect everyone to get it.

    I'm not entirely sure you did either, but never mind.
    You didn't try to explain your point so I didn't bother to think about it. Got dose of 'rickitis'? :wink:

    It's a white guy playing a white guy. It's taking the p*ss out of middle class, suburban, white kids adopting inner city black street culture because they think it's cool, but not really getting it.
    Not exactly. It's a white guy playing an Asian character who is pretending to be black.

    https://youtu.be/QaZbrqE1CF4

    The character's 'real' name is Alistair Leslie Graham. Baron Cohen has stated that he was loosely based on Tim Westwood.
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  • Stevo_666Stevo_666 Posts: 36,212
    rjsterry wrote:
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    rjsterry wrote:
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    rjsterry wrote:
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    Don't worry, I didn't expect everyone to get it.

    I'm not entirely sure you did either, but never mind.
    You didn't try to explain your point so I didn't bother to think about it. Got dose of 'rickitis'? :wink:

    It's a white guy playing a white guy. It's taking the p*ss out of middle class, suburban, white kids adopting inner city black street culture because they think it's cool, but not really getting it.
    Not exactly. It's a white guy playing an Asian character who is pretending to be black.

    https://youtu.be/QaZbrqE1CF4

    The character's 'real' name is Alistair Leslie Graham. Baron Cohen has stated that he was loosely based on Tim Westwood.
    You learn something every day.

    So it's a white guy playing a white character who is pretending to be black. An important distinction in this critical debate :)
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  • rjsterryrjsterry Posts: 15,240
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    rjsterry wrote:
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    rjsterry wrote:
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    rjsterry wrote:
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    Don't worry, I didn't expect everyone to get it.

    I'm not entirely sure you did either, but never mind.
    You didn't try to explain your point so I didn't bother to think about it. Got dose of 'rickitis'? :wink:

    It's a white guy playing a white guy. It's taking the p*ss out of middle class, suburban, white kids adopting inner city black street culture because they think it's cool, but not really getting it.
    Not exactly. It's a white guy playing an Asian character who is pretending to be black.

    https://youtu.be/QaZbrqE1CF4

    The character's 'real' name is Alistair Leslie Graham. Baron Cohen has stated that he was loosely based on Tim Westwood.
    You learn something every day. And for you, an important debate won :)

    Absolutely :lol: Next time that comes up in a pub quiz...

    As it happens, Baron Cohen did get some stick from people who thought the character's back story was just a cover for mocking black street culture. Who knows?
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  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 43,769 Lives Here
    ballysmate wrote:
    ballysmate wrote:
    Should I, as a white male, feel affronted that Whacko tried to white up? Or should that be whiteface?
    Is the term 'paleface' suitable or is it offensive?

    Should you, as someone who doesn’t self identify as a thicko, understand and consider the historical context of racism, before making stupid remarks?

    Thicko? That's not a very enlightened expression for a 'woke' person like yourself is it?
    Intellectually challenged, if you don't mind, you humourless [email protected]

    Oh sorry, it was a joke? In what way?
  • ballysmateballysmate Posts: 13,026
    ballysmate wrote:
    ballysmate wrote:
    Should I, as a white male, feel affronted that Whacko tried to white up? Or should that be whiteface?
    Is the term 'paleface' suitable or is it offensive?

    Should you, as someone who doesn’t self identify as a thicko, understand and consider the historical context of racism, before making stupid remarks?

    Thicko? That's not a very enlightened expression for a 'woke' person like yourself is it?
    Intellectually challenged, if you don't mind, you humourless [email protected]

    Oh sorry, it was a joke? In what way?

    Did you honestly take that to be a serious comment, believing that I would be affronted by MJ's changing appearance?
    If so, you will be able to walk down the street, wearing your 'thicko' label with pride.
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 43,769 Lives Here
    Just do some better jokes next time. That are, you know, like a joke and funny.

    See is as a favour to the humourless.
  • MatthewfalleMatthewfalle Posts: 17,571
    Just do some better jokes next time. That are, you know, like a joke and funny.

    See is as a favour to the humourless.

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    Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

    De Sisti wrote:
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

    Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
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    He's right you know.
  • Stevo_666Stevo_666 Posts: 36,212
    Is it irony when Rick is having a go at someone for not being funny enough? :)
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  • Robert88Robert88 Posts: 2,722
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    Is it irony when Rick is having a go at someone for not being funny enough? :)

    We know you are funny because you use all those winkies and smilies. That's how. :):wink::lol:
  • Stevo_666Stevo_666 Posts: 36,212
    Robert88 wrote:
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    Is it irony when Rick is having a go at someone for not being funny enough? :)

    We know you are funny because you use all those winkies and smilies. That's how. :):wink::lol:
    I do try Robert :)

    I have to say the way your house magically transformed from a nice house in the country with a lower meadow a few weeks ago, to one in a nice part of town the other day is quite amusing. Or should I call you Walter? :wink:
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  • ballysmateballysmate Posts: 13,026
    I wonder if the Liberal guardian got the irony of Ellen de Generes liking Bush.

    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theg ... -she-keeps

    That should be bush, small b
  • step83step83 Posts: 3,369
    ballysmate wrote:
    I wonder if the Liberal guardian got the irony of Ellen de Generes liking Bush.

    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theg ... -she-keeps

    That should be bush, small b

    Least its not Bush jr I guess...
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 43,769 Lives Here
    English travelling football fans who complain other nations are racist.
  • TheBlueBeanTheBlueBean Posts: 8,248
    English travelling football fans who complain other nations are racist.

    I haven't heard any racism at any match in England despite hearing some fairly vulgar language and songs. A few clubs still have a bad reputation, but it is a fairly legitimate criticism of last night's match.
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 43,769 Lives Here
    TheBigBean wrote:
    English travelling football fans who complain other nations are racist.

    I haven't heard any racism at any match in England despite hearing some fairly vulgar language and songs. A few clubs still have a bad reputation, but it is a fairly legitimate criticism of last night's match.

    Sterling got racially abused at Chelsea last season, and a banana was thrown on the pitch at Arsenal and Millwall and the clubs got just a £10k fine.

    Not a defence of Bulgarian fans, they were clearly awful, but it's disappointing that when it's English fans people are a lot more muted, if fairly predictable.
  • TheBlueBeanTheBlueBean Posts: 8,248
    TheBigBean wrote:
    English travelling football fans who complain other nations are racist.

    I haven't heard any racism at any match in England despite hearing some fairly vulgar language and songs. A few clubs still have a bad reputation, but it is a fairly legitimate criticism of last night's match.

    Sterling got racially abused at Chelsea last season, and a banana was thrown on the pitch at Arsenal and Millwall and the clubs got just a £10k fine.

    Not a defence of Bulgarian fans, they were clearly awful, but it's disappointing that when it's English fans people are a lot more muted, if fairly predictable.

    See emphasis above - Millwall and Chelsea. I don't really believe the banana skin was a racist thing in the north London derby. He hadn't brought it to the game and according to witnesses just threw the nearest thing. Pleaded guilty to throwing something and apologised. Really quite different to widespread racism from Bulgarian fans.
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