The Irony Thread

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  • elbowloh
    elbowloh Posts: 7,078
    pinno said:

    Pross said:

    pinno said:

    A vegan who the judge said, that his rights should be on a par with religion...
    Okay.

    But he won't wear Wool amongst other things. So that means he's happy to wear man made fibre's (or go naked?).

    Now we know that Polysters etc are a plastic, which is derived from oil and ends up in the eco system via the washing machine/poor waste management etc etc.

    I'm trying to get my head around this one.

    Linen or cotton?

    Yeah well, cotton requires an adverse amount of water to grow, process, dye...

    Devout Buddhists sweep the ground so that they don't stand on an insect, they don't eat meat, it's a long standing religion, so why not be a Buddhist instead of re-inventing the wheel?

    I assume because they don't believe all the other stuff that is part of Buddism, reincarnation etc?
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  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,541
    edited January 2020
    Pross said:

    pinno said:

    A vegan who the judge said, that his rights should be on a par with religion...
    Okay.

    But he won't wear Wool amongst other things. So that means he's happy to wear man made fibre's (or go naked?).

    Now we know that Polysters etc are a plastic, which is derived from oil and ends up in the eco system via the washing machine/poor waste management etc etc.

    I'm trying to get my head around this one.

    Linen or cotton?

    He sounds a complete nutjob though, I respect (non-preachy) vegans for their principles but to not travel by bus in case it runs over a bird? Does he wear a mask to avoid accidentally ingesting flies and how does he avoid crush insects, snails etc. when walking? I should think all sorts of living things also get killed accidentally when harvesting the food he eats. It is literally impossible to live a life that doesn't as adversely affect other living creatures and even the most ardent vegans I know accept all they can realistically do is ensure they don't deliberately do anything that kills or exploits a living creature.
    To summarise, you cannot exist without having an impact on your environment. Frequently that impact will be negative to other organisms. This applies to all life forms.
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  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,312
    I'm sure people could collectively make huge environmental impacts by doing small things but those actions require rationale.
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  • ballysmate
    ballysmate Posts: 15,930
    Lily Allen on Lawrence Fox

    "Sick to death of luvvies like a Lawrence [sic] Fox going on TV and forcing their opinions on everybody else, when he'll never have to deal with what normal people have to deal with in his gated community.

    "BBC should be ashamed, this is not what we pay our TV liscence [sic] for."

    The Smile singer also added: "Stick to acting mate. Instead of ranting about things you don't know anything about."
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,541
    ballysmate said:

    Lily Allen on Lawrence Fox

    "Sick to death of luvvies like a Lawrence [sic] Fox going on TV and forcing their opinions on everybody else, when he'll never have to deal with what normal people have to deal with in his gated community.

    "BBC should be ashamed, this is not what we pay our TV liscence [sic] for."

    The Smile singer also added: "Stick to acting mate. Instead of ranting about things you don't know anything about."

    Fair point, notwithstanding that Fox came across like a drunk pub bore.
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  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,383
    rjsterry said:

    ballysmate said:

    Lily Allen on Lawrence Fox

    "Sick to death of luvvies like a Lawrence [sic] Fox going on TV and forcing their opinions on everybody else, when he'll never have to deal with what normal people have to deal with in his gated community.

    "BBC should be ashamed, this is not what we pay our TV liscence [sic] for."

    The Smile singer also added: "Stick to acting mate. Instead of ranting about things you don't know anything about."

    Fair point, notwithstanding that Fox came across like a drunk pub bore.
    Better to come across like that than the way Lily Allen came across.
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  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,541
    Not a lot to choose between them.
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  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,383
    rjsterry said:

    Not a lot to choose between them.

    The tie breaker for me was that he was right and she was wrong ;)
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  • ballysmate
    ballysmate Posts: 15,930
    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Not a lot to choose between them.

    The tie breaker for me was that he was right and she was wrong ;)
    Bleedin' obvious to you and me, Stevo..
    But being right often sadly cuts no ice now.

  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,383
    ballysmate said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Not a lot to choose between them.

    The tie breaker for me was that he was right and she was wrong ;)
    Bleedin' obvious to you and me, Stevo..
    But being right often sadly cuts no ice now.

    It would appear that being right on is more important than being right these days.
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  • ballysmate
    ballysmate Posts: 15,930
    And if you are on the right, you can never be right..
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,383
    ballysmate said:

    And if you are on the right, you can never be right..

    Right on, Bally!
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Not a lot to choose between them.

    The tie breaker for me was that he was right and she was wrong ;)
    Why what was the argument about?
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  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,541
    edited January 2020
    On QT, Fox said something along the lines of 'always bringing up racism was boring'. A mixed race member of the audience pointed out that as a very comfortable white middle-aged man, he might not be best placed to comment on whether racism was boring. He then accused her of being racist for accurately pointing out that he was white and male. This from the guy who dumped his girlfriend for liking an advertising campaign.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    edited January 2020
    Ah got it.
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  • ballysmate
    ballysmate Posts: 15,930
    rjsterry said:

    On QT, Fox said something along the lines of 'always bringing up racism was boring'. A mixed race member of the audience pointed out that as a very comfortable white middle-aged man, he might not be best placed to comment on whether racism was boring. He then accused her of being racist for accurately pointing out that he was white and male. This from the guy who dumped his girlfriend for liking an advertising campaign.

    Mixed race woman states that Meghan has been torn to pieces because of racism. Fox refutes this 4 times before she calls him a white privileged man. He then complains how easy it is to throw allegations of racism and it is starting to get boring.
    He then accuses her of racism for making an issue of his colour.

    Apparently the tw@ts that tweet on twitter went into a frenzy.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    You don’t think Meghan gets a tougher ride because of her ethnicity?
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  • ballysmate
    ballysmate Posts: 15,930
    No
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Ahahaha ok that explains a lot.

    I do generally think it’s odd when people who are from the dominant side of the prejudices lecture the other side on what is and isn’t prejudice.

    If you really think the “I don’t see colour” argument holds water, you really understand what’s at hand here.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Though I’m glad he takes his own boredom as seriously as the racial injustices in society as they’re plainly equal.
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  • ballysmate
    ballysmate Posts: 15,930
    I don't recall lecturing anyone and I make no comment on Fox's boredom threshold.
  • ballysmate
    ballysmate Posts: 15,930
    Just answered your straight forward question with a straight answer
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    edited January 2020
    No sure - sounds like he was.

    Presumably he feels it’s easy to spot from his social vantage.

    Gets him a gig on QT though.
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  • shortfall
    shortfall Posts: 3,288
    There have been suggestions that the audience member in question was a plant. She has previously reviewed the newspapers on BBC Breakfast which challenges the impartiality of the producers who selected her question. It could of course be coincidence.
  • shortfall
    shortfall Posts: 3,288
    edited January 2020
    Unsurprisingly Laurence Fox is proving to be quite a hit with the viewing public. Equally unsurprising is that he's not such a big hit in Cakestop.😀
  • ballysmate
    ballysmate Posts: 15,930
    shortfall said:

    There have been suggestions that the audience member in question was a plant. She has previously reviewed the newspapers on BBC Breakfast which challenges the impartiality of the producers who selected her question. It could of course be coincidence.

    Plant? BBC? Shocked I am!
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    Reminds me of Kathy Burke’s response to Helena Bonham Carter moaning about how much easier life is for non-pretty, non-posh people.
    https://www.thepoke.co.uk/2016/10/27/kathy-burke-wonderful-response-helena-bonham-carter-letters-page-time/
  • shortfall
    shortfall Posts: 3,288
    ballysmate said:

    shortfall said:

    There have been suggestions that the audience member in question was a plant. She has previously reviewed the newspapers on BBC Breakfast which challenges the impartiality of the producers who selected her question. It could of course be coincidence.

    Plant? BBC? Shocked I am!
    Yes colour me shocked too.
  • ballysmate
    ballysmate Posts: 15,930
    rick_chasey said:

    Ahahaha ok that explains a lot.

    I do generally think it’s odd when people who are from the dominant side of the prejudices lecture the other side on what is and isn’t prejudice.

    If you really think the “I don’t see colour” argument holds water, you really understand what’s at hand here.


    If someone in this day and age cites racism without any evidence or even evidence to the contrary, what is the accepted response?


    1. Refute the allegation and get called a racist or privileged because you can't see it?
    2. Agree with the complainant that it is racism because you don't want to be called a racist?

    Either way, the allegation will stand.



  • ballysmate
    ballysmate Posts: 15,930
    surrey_commuter said:

    Reminds me of Kathy Burke’s response to Helena Bonham Carter moaning about how much easier life is for non-pretty, non-posh people.
    https://www.thepoke.co.uk/2016/10/27/kathy-burke-wonderful-response-helena-bonham-carter-letters-page-time/


    That's pretty funny.

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