TDF-Stage 16: Carcassonne–Bagnères-de-Luchon: *Spoiler*

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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Am I the only person here who doesn't like Rogers?
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  • Yellow Peril
    Yellow Peril Posts: 4,466
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Am I the only person here who doesn't like Rogers?

    No me to, but just like celery I'm trying to like him
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  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
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  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
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    They went into some nice tunnels yesterday:
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    Sam D did a monster job for Bardet on the descent:
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  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Some French people's fascination with the royals (small R) is embarrassing and shows a lack of respect for their own history.

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  • type:epyt
    type:epyt Posts: 766
    Don't pick on little George, poor kid is only one year old and judging by the pic on BBC news last week he's already sporting a combover.
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  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Soon they will be training him on how to take taxpayers money to spend tens of thousands on a new kitchen when the previous (tax-payers paid for) kitchen was in perfect order, whilst at the same time, dress down and slum it with the proles so that they think you are in touch with the everyday person and their struggles.
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    Your knocking of the Royal family is showing a lack of respect for the figurehead of the country where you have chosen to make your living.
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    coriordan wrote:
    Your knocking of the Royal family is showing a lack of respect for the figurehead of the country where you have chosen to make your living.

    I am English.

    The puppets that get tons of land, money and palaces through no merit of their own and off the backs of hard working true contributors to this country are relics.

    It is an insult on your intelligence, freedom and dignity to support them.
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  • KnightOfTheLongTights
    KnightOfTheLongTights Posts: 1,415
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Am I the only person here who doesn't like Rogers?

    Feel the similarly in the minority about Voeckler - he's a clown.
  • chrisday
    chrisday Posts: 300
    Macaloon wrote:
    Pinot on Valverde: "I hope I have great legs tomorrow and the next day so I can drop him again."

    +1

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  • nic_77
    nic_77 Posts: 929
    frenchfighter wrote:
    coriordan wrote:
    Your knocking of the Royal family is showing a lack of respect for the figurehead of the country where you have chosen to make your living.

    I am English.

    The puppets that get tons of land, money and palaces through no merit of their own and off the backs of hard working true contributors to this country are relics.

    It is an insult on your intelligence, freedom and dignity to support them.

    You do know that the royal family costs each UK taxpayer less than £1.50 per year? The amount of money brought into the country by the royal family is significantly greater than that - like around £15 per taxpayer from tourism alone.

    Of course that doesn't make their position correct - but from an economical perspective it's good business.
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  • type:epyt
    type:epyt Posts: 766
    Quick question for Frenchfighter ...

    As someone with French heritage, how do you feel about 3 Frenchmen fighting for the podium in not only the biggest race of the year but 'their' race? Does it even enter your head?

    I'm interested to know given your long list of 'favourites' from many other countries and different teams. I get the impression that you don't see nationality as a selling point (or barrier) to who you support but it would still be interesting to get your thoughts on this, especially with the 'fervour' we've had to endure the past few years based solely on nationality.
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  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,647
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Am I the only person here who doesn't like Rogers?

    INRNG didn't seem such a fan either in his summary of yesterday.
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    type:epyt wrote:
    Quick question for Frenchfighter ...

    As someone with French heritage, how do you feel about 3 Frenchmen fighting for the podium in not only the biggest race of the year but 'their' race? Does it even enter your head?

    I'm interested to know given your long list of 'favourites' from many other countries and different teams. I get the impression that you don't see nationality as a selling point (or barrier) to who you support but it would still be interesting to get your thoughts on this, especially with the 'fervour' we've had to endure the past few years based solely on nationality.

    It's wonderful given it is their home Tour and the French have not performed so well at GC in this race for a long time.
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  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    edited July 2014
    nic_77 wrote:
    frenchfighter wrote:
    coriordan wrote:
    Your knocking of the Royal family is showing a lack of respect for the figurehead of the country where you have chosen to make your living.

    I am English.

    The puppets that get tons of land, money and palaces through no merit of their own and off the backs of hard working true contributors to this country are relics.

    It is an insult on your intelligence, freedom and dignity to support them.

    You do know that the royal family costs each UK taxpayer less than £1.50 per year? The amount of money brought into the country by the royal family is significantly greater than that - like around £15 per taxpayer from tourism alone.

    Of course that doesn't make their position correct - but from an economical perspective it's good business.

    Can I donate my 1.50 to a better cause? Like child poverty? 1.50 x millions adds up doesnt it - putting it in terms of cost per person is a way of trying to dupe the average person.

    Read this for starters for both on the truer cost in addition to the financial benefit:
    http://republic.org.uk/sites/default/fi ... ypenny.pdf

    That does not even include the money that could be reaped from opening up the tens of palaces they own as tourist attractions charging entry fee like in France castles and palaces for example.
    It doesn't include either what the economic benefit of the land they unfairly own (an incredible amount) would be if it was sold and used by the Government.
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  • ridgerider
    ridgerider Posts: 2,852
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Am I the only person here who doesn't like Rogers?

    Count me in, and to quote George Michael "guilty feet have got no rhythm"...
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    To be honest I probably trust the royal family to own and run the land more than the government. What economic benefit does a one-off sale give? It has been constantly proven that the government are incapable of realising value from assets when they are up for sale, so why would the palaces be any different? I would suggest that they probably are better kept as they are and that the royals land (such as the dutchy estate and others) are kept as is to continue to generate income rather than a (measly) lump sum which would be squandered.
  • cesco
    cesco Posts: 252
    KnightOfTheLongTights wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Am I the only person here who doesn't like Rogers?

    Feel the similarly in the minority about Voeckler - he's a clown.

    Wait, people on here actually like Titi? I must have missed that, but yeah, total clown.
  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,104
    nic_77 wrote:
    You do know that the royal family costs each UK taxpayer less than £1.50 per year? The amount of money brought into the country by the royal family is significantly greater than that - like around £15 per taxpayer from tourism alone.

    Of course that doesn't make their position correct - but from an economical perspective it's good business.


    I understood that the cost of the royal family did not include the vast sums spent protecting them and arranging their various publicity stu...I mean visits around the country. I would be willing to bet that the sums they supposedly bring into the country are inflated just as their cost is deliberately underestimated. All these things are stage managed so we don't question why a family are allowed money and influence by birthright.

    However, even if we did benefit economically I'd gladly pay not to have a head of state who represents unearned privilege and wealth.
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    DeVlaeminck wrote:
    I understood that the cost of the royal family did not include the vast sums spent protecting them and arranging their various publicity stu...I mean visits around the country. I would be willing to bet that the sums they supposedly bring into the country are inflated just as their cost is deliberately underestimated. All these things are stage managed so we don't question why a family are allowed money and influence by birthright.
    They don't get that bold bit because they are royals, they get it because they are rich. Lots of people inherit money and influence by birthright. Even in republics.
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  • adr82
    adr82 Posts: 4,002
    If anyone wants to complain about people having money and power they don't deserve, please start with politicians. They're a far more worthwhile target for any abuse you feel like dishing out.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    Except we voted them in. We get what we deserve in that respect.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    coriordan wrote:
    Except we voted them in. We get what we deserve in that respect.
    Yeah, great.

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  • OPQS
    OPQS Posts: 187
    DeVlaeminck wrote:
    However, even if we did benefit economically I'd gladly pay not to have a head of state who represents unearned privilege and wealth.

    I'm on the other side of the coin. I really like the fact that we have a Royal Family. It's one of the few things that makes me proud to feel British.
  • adr82
    adr82 Posts: 4,002
    coriordan wrote:
    Except we voted them in. We get what we deserve in that respect.
    I didn't.
  • Macaloon
    Macaloon Posts: 5,545
    coriordan wrote:
    Except we voted them in. We get what we deserve in that respect.

    That's the biggest argument for keeping the current system. We've survived their familial far-right foibles, despite battling the master-race twice. Admittedly we're about to see a change from the majestic Big Brenda to the improvisational Whispering Grass. When King Chuck incites the tabloids against GM, or whatever anti-science campaign he's on, republicanism will have a chance.

    But given we'd possibly elect President Farage in the current climate, I'm not convinced it's a smart idea in practice.
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  • calvjones
    calvjones Posts: 3,850
    Yellow Peril wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Am I the only person here who doesn't like Rogers?

    No me to, but just like celery I'm trying to like him

    Freiburg Mick was my fave rider in 2005/6 (cost me many PTP points) but him (and Kloeden's) getting away with it has rankled since.
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  • calvjones
    calvjones Posts: 3,850
    frenchfighter wrote:
    coriordan wrote:
    Your knocking of the Royal family is showing a lack of respect for the figurehead of the country where you have chosen to make your living.

    I am English.

    The puppets that get tons of land, money and palaces through no merit of their own and off the backs of hard working true contributors to this country are relics.

    It is an insult on your intelligence, freedom and dignity to support them.


    Go FF!
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  • wallace_and_gromit
    wallace_and_gromit Posts: 3,608
    Macaloon wrote:
    But given we'd possibly elect President Farage in the current climate, I'm not convinced it's a smart idea in practice.

    Or even worse, President Blair. The republicans should be very careful what they wish for! The Royal Family may be imperfect and heavily inbred, but the alternatives must surely be worse. The Irish system seems to work quite well, it must be said, though this seems to be an exception to the rule.

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