The French, The Germans and the Italians...

arran77

Why not get specifically to the point instead then

Matthewfalle

Because I've always learnt never to rush into something without knowing all the facts.

The 7Ps my son

VTech

I am majority in all. But you can find that out on the internet so unsure where you are leading with this.

nathancom

VTech wrote:

Remember, its the rest of the EU that bailed out the corruption in your country.

I don't remember the financial crash of 2008 being brought about by Portuguese corruption.

Edit: British companies don't exactly have a great reputation regarding corruption, especially in China right now.

Edit2: Are all these companies just a series of linked shell companies so not distinct companies as most people would recognise them. I don't actually want to know.

VTech

nathancom wrote:

VTech wrote:

Remember, its the rest of the EU that bailed out the corruption in your country.

I don't remember the financial crash of 2008 being brought about by Portuguese corruption.

Edit: British companies don't exactly have a great reputation regarding corruption, especially in China right now.

Edit2: Are all these companies just a series of linked shell companies so not distinct companies as most people would recognise them. I don't actually want to know.

Read more and you could learn a lot.
I never once stated that the crash was caused by the corruption in Portugal.

The ability to pay back national debt was the downside of that.
If you are going to argue with me try to do it on a level you understand, its foolish otherwise.

veronese68

Well, I can say that I can confirm the Italian women are still mightily fine and the coffee is good. Milanese driving is as expected, fine once I got into the spirit of things. Although I think my boss may have been a little surprised at a couple of overtaking manoeuvres.
Shortly off to the bar, then dinner. Mmmmm.

nathancom

VTech wrote:

nathancom wrote:

VTech wrote:

Remember, its the rest of the EU that bailed out the corruption in your country.

I don't remember the financial crash of 2008 being brought about by Portuguese corruption.

Edit: British companies don't exactly have a great reputation regarding corruption, especially in China right now.

Edit2: Are all these companies just a series of linked shell companies so not distinct companies as most people would recognise them. I don't actually want to know.

Read more and you could learn a lot.
I never once stated that the crash was caused by the corruption in Portugal.

The ability to pay back national debt was the downside of that.
If you are going to argue with me try to do it on a level you understand, its foolish otherwise.

I am not going to argue with you, but honestly you don't know much about governmental finances yet think you can give us all a lesson on Portuguese economic history. Hilarious, please continue!

VTech

nathancom wrote:

VTech wrote:

nathancom wrote:

VTech wrote:

Remember, its the rest of the EU that bailed out the corruption in your country.

I don't remember the financial crash of 2008 being brought about by Portuguese corruption.

Edit: British companies don't exactly have a great reputation regarding corruption, especially in China right now.

Edit2: Are all these companies just a series of linked shell companies so not distinct companies as most people would recognise them. I don't actually want to know.

Read more and you could learn a lot.
I never once stated that the crash was caused by the corruption in Portugal.

The ability to pay back national debt was the downside of that.
If you are going to argue with me try to do it on a level you understand, its foolish otherwise.

I am not going to argue with you, but honestly you don't know much about governmental finances yet think you can give us all a lesson on Portuguese economic history. Hilarious, please continue!

Your a master of arguing without giving any input, that in itself is applaudable. In the exact same way we applaud a lying governmental party who promises to bring down national debt yet sink us deeper.

Substance man, bring it on, your ohhh so lacking.

nathancom

VTech wrote:

nathancom wrote:

VTech wrote:

nathancom wrote:

VTech wrote:

Remember, its the rest of the EU that bailed out the corruption in your country.

I don't remember the financial crash of 2008 being brought about by Portuguese corruption.

Edit: British companies don't exactly have a great reputation regarding corruption, especially in China right now.

Edit2: Are all these companies just a series of linked shell companies so not distinct companies as most people would recognise them. I don't actually want to know.

Read more and you could learn a lot.
I never once stated that the crash was caused by the corruption in Portugal.

The ability to pay back national debt was the downside of that.
If you are going to argue with me try to do it on a level you understand, its foolish otherwise.

I am not going to argue with you, but honestly you don't know much about governmental finances yet think you can give us all a lesson on Portuguese economic history. Hilarious, please continue!

Your a master of arguing without giving any input, that in itself is applaudable. In the exact same way we applaud a lying governmental party who promises to bring down national debt yet sink us deeper.

Substance man, bring it on, your ohhh so lacking.

I really cannot be arsed. You are going to get another thread locked at this rate.

VTech

No sir, you are.
You see, I added to a point being made, you argued but without substance. You tried to make an argument where there wasn't one. Thats your method.

Matthewfalle

VTech wrote:

I am majority in all. But you can find that out on the internet so unsure where you are leading with this.

Firstly - why would I look you up on the internet (even if I knew how to)? In the nicest possible way, we are on here as cyclists - I do not give a fig who anyone on here is the "real world". I feel it sad and a tad immoral for people to go looking up people on the internet.

Ref shareholdings, etc - I presume then that all your companies are 100% tax compliant and that the minute you even suspected anything - be it a dodgy expense claim, dividend payment, director's expenses (ie a trip on the Cannonball put down as a directors'/shareholders' meeting), etc you would report it immediately to the Portuguese fiscal authorities and demand that all members of the company were held accountable? Remember, this covers allowing your accountant to have a bit of freedom when doing the books, the company secretary making any late returns, etc etc .......

pinno

FFS for the love of God, Bhudda, Abraham, Lidl, Abdul or Jehova:

SHUTTUP

THIS THREAD IS NOT ABOUT THE PORTUGUESE, no offence to the feckers - read the title. Let's get back on track:

The French, you gotta love 'em

VTech

Matthewfalle wrote:

VTech wrote:

I am majority in all. But you can find that out on the internet so unsure where you are leading with this.

Firstly - why would I look you up on the internet (even if I knew how to)? In the nicest possible way, we are on here as cyclists - I do not give a fig who anyone on here is the "real world". I feel it sad and a tad immoral for people to go looking up people on the internet.

Ref shareholdings, etc - I presume then that all your companies are 100% tax compliant and that the minute you even suspected anything - be it a dodgy expense claim, dividend payment, director's expenses (ie a trip on the Cannonball put down as a directors'/shareholders' meeting), etc you would report it immediately to the Portuguese fiscal authorities and demand that all members of the company were held accountable? Remember, this covers allowing your accountant to have a bit of freedom when doing the books, the company secretary making any late returns, etc etc .......

I believe people should pay what is owed and not a penny more, unless they wish too. I have filed late myself it that's a simple fine and nothing more. I would not claim a motoring event simply because I can't do it. When could, I did.
Likewise I claim what is allowed and not what isn't.
I'm a tiny little fish so me paying or not isn't the issue, the issue is the fact that like it or not, the track record of the Portuguese authorities to clamp down on tax evaders is poor when compared to that of the inland revenue. The losers are the very people who live there.

pinno

VTech wrote:

Matthewfalle wrote:

VTech wrote:

I am majority in all. But you can find that out on the internet so unsure where you are leading with this.

Firstly - why would I look you up on the internet (even if I knew how to)? In the nicest possible way, we are on here as cyclists - I do not give a fig who anyone on here is the "real world". I feel it sad and a tad immoral for people to go looking up people on the internet.

Ref shareholdings, etc - I presume then that all your companies are 100% tax compliant and that the minute you even suspected anything - be it a dodgy expense claim, dividend payment, director's expenses (ie a trip on the Cannonball put down as a directors'/shareholders' meeting), etc you would report it immediately to the Portuguese fiscal authorities and demand that all members of the company were held accountable? Remember, this covers allowing your accountant to have a bit of freedom when doing the books, the company secretary making any late returns, etc etc .......

I believe people should pay what is owed and not a penny more, unless they wish too. I have filed late myself it that's a simple fine and nothing more. I would not claim a motoring event simply because I can't do it. When could, I did.
Likewise I claim what is allowed and not what isn't.
I'm a tiny little fish so me paying or not isn't the issue, the issue is the fact that like it or not, the track record of the Portuguese authorities to clamp down on tax evaders is poor when compared to that of the inland revenue. The losers are the very people who live there.

You just don't geddit.

How about this?:

Une petite meow ou une grande meow?

Matthewfalle

VTech wrote:

Matthewfalle wrote:

VTech wrote:

I am majority in all. But you can find that out on the internet so unsure where you are leading with this.

Firstly - why would I look you up on the internet (even if I knew how to)? In the nicest possible way, we are on here as cyclists - I do not give a fig who anyone on here is the "real world". I feel it sad and a tad immoral for people to go looking up people on the internet.

Ref shareholdings, etc - I presume then that all your companies are 100% tax compliant and that the minute you even suspected anything - be it a dodgy expense claim, dividend payment, director's expenses (ie a trip on the Cannonball put down as a directors'/shareholders' meeting), etc you would report it immediately to the Portuguese fiscal authorities and demand that all members of the company were held accountable? Remember, this covers allowing your accountant to have a bit of freedom when doing the books, the company secretary making any late returns, etc etc .......

I believe people should pay what is owed and not a penny more, unless they wish too. I have filed late myself it that's a simple fine and nothing more. I would not claim a motoring event simply because I can't do it. When could, I did.
Likewise I claim what is allowed and not what isn't.
I'm a tiny little fish so me paying or not isn't the issue, the issue is the fact that like it or not, the track record of the Portuguese authorities to clamp down on tax evaders is poor when compared to that of the inland revenue. The losers are the very people who live there.

So you admit to being as bad as rest of them but it's ok for you because you're a "tiny little fish". Uh, ok then. Do you just realise what you've admitted to in a public forum.

Piña - I'll get this craziness back on track as soon as I can hold of a proper computer not this borrowed iPad thing I'm currently on.

team47b

Boa noite, o que é isso que eu ouço que você quer ouvir sobre os ibéricos?

pinno

Matthewfalle wrote:

VTech wrote:

Matthewfalle wrote:

VTech wrote:

I am majority in all. But you can find that out on the internet so unsure where you are leading with this.

Firstly - why would I look you up on the internet (even if I knew how to)? In the nicest possible way, we are on here as cyclists - I do not give a fig who anyone on here is the "real world". I feel it sad and a tad immoral for people to go looking up people on the internet.

Ref shareholdings, etc - I presume then that all your companies are 100% tax compliant and that the minute you even suspected anything - be it a dodgy expense claim, dividend payment, director's expenses (ie a trip on the Cannonball put down as a directors'/shareholders' meeting), etc you would report it immediately to the Portuguese fiscal authorities and demand that all members of the company were held accountable? Remember, this covers allowing your accountant to have a bit of freedom when doing the books, the company secretary making any late returns, etc etc .......

I believe people should pay what is owed and not a penny more, unless they wish too. I have filed late myself it that's a simple fine and nothing more. I would not claim a motoring event simply because I can't do it. When could, I did.
Likewise I claim what is allowed and not what isn't.
I'm a tiny little fish so me paying or not isn't the issue, the issue is the fact that like it or not, the track record of the Portuguese authorities to clamp down on tax evaders is poor when compared to that of the inland revenue. The losers are the very people who live there.

So you admit to being as bad as rest of them but it's ok for you because you're a "tiny little fish". Uh, ok then. Do you just realise what you've admitted to in a public forum.

Piña - I'll get this craziness back on track as soon as I can hold of a proper computer not this borrowed iPad thing I'm currently on.

This is quality yawn stuff...

I'll have to convert them.
Ciao bella

veronese68

Dinner was delicious. For my aperitif I just went with a glass of bubbles, skipped the antipasto and went straight for the pasta with a delicious truffle and bacon sauce followed by a lovely bit of steak. Washed it down with a nice local red, sorry but I can't remember what it was. Finished off with a chocolate thing. Skipped the digestivo as I'd had plenty to drink by this point. Quite tiring trying to talk shop, translating between Italian and English and also making small talk with the customer's wife.
Sorry, I can't remember all the proper names for stuff on the menu, but I can tell you for what was not overly complicated food it was delicious.

VTech

Matthewfalle wrote:

VTech wrote:

Matthewfalle wrote:

VTech wrote:

I am majority in all. But you can find that out on the internet so unsure where you are leading with this.

Firstly - why would I look you up on the internet (even if I knew how to)? In the nicest possible way, we are on here as cyclists - I do not give a fig who anyone on here is the "real world". I feel it sad and a tad immoral for people to go looking up people on the internet.

Ref shareholdings, etc - I presume then that all your companies are 100% tax compliant and that the minute you even suspected anything - be it a dodgy expense claim, dividend payment, director's expenses (ie a trip on the Cannonball put down as a directors'/shareholders' meeting), etc you would report it immediately to the Portuguese fiscal authorities and demand that all members of the company were held accountable? Remember, this covers allowing your accountant to have a bit of freedom when doing the books, the company secretary making any late returns, etc etc .......

I believe people should pay what is owed and not a penny more, unless they wish too. I have filed late myself it that's a simple fine and nothing more. I would not claim a motoring event simply because I can't do it. When could, I did.
Likewise I claim what is allowed and not what isn't.
I'm a tiny little fish so me paying or not isn't the issue, the issue is the fact that like it or not, the track record of the Portuguese authorities to clamp down on tax evaders is poor when compared to that of the inland revenue. The losers are the very people who live there.

So you admit to being as bad as rest of them but it's ok for you because you're a "tiny little fish". Uh, ok then. Do you just realise what you've admitted to in a public forum.

Piña - I'll get this craziness back on track as soon as I can hold of a proper computer not this borrowed iPad thing I'm currently on.

Not sure what you mean.
As bad as who ? The other people who pay vast sums in tax ?
I have never invested in schemes to avoid the varying rates of taxation so not quite sure what I have admitted too on an open forum that would upset you.

Matthewfalle

I'm preparing calamari salad and bruschetta for diner tonight. It's gonna rock. I may even let my wife play with me if she's lucky.

And the sun is currently shining, so off for a run then maybe a quick hour on the bike at around 1. Bellissimo,

A piu tardi ragazzi.

http://www.heavy.com/action/2012/10/the ... n-girls/2/

brianonyx

This has to be the best so far:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbZjrjk_f7s

pinno

Merci pour Le Hot Club d'italie Monsieur Falle. Et voila, pour votre amusement.

Le meow edition deux

pinno

Une autre meow. merci monsieur 'eyepic'.

Melissa Theuriau

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=melissa+theuriau+pics

Flâneur

My favourite trattoria is in Verona

Matthewfalle

Veronese68 wrote:

Dinner was delicious. For my aperitif I just went with a glass of bubbles, skipped the antipasto and went straight for the pasta with a delicious truffle and bacon sauce followed by a lovely bit of steak. Washed it down with a nice local red, sorry but I can't remember what it was. Finished off with a chocolate thing. Skipped the digestivo as I'd had plenty to drink by this point. Quite tiring trying to talk shop, translating between Italian and English and also making small talk with the customer's wife.
Sorry, I can't remember all the proper names for stuff on the menu, but I can tell you for what was not overly complicated food it was delicious.

v: what is your line of business, if you don't mind me asking.

VTech

Software development.

veronese68

Matthewfalle wrote:

Veronese68 wrote:

Dinner was delicious. For my aperitif I just went with a glass of bubbles, skipped the antipasto and went straight for the pasta with a delicious truffle and bacon sauce followed by a lovely bit of steak. Washed it down with a nice local red, sorry but I can't remember what it was. Finished off with a chocolate thing. Skipped the digestivo as I'd had plenty to drink by this point. Quite tiring trying to talk shop, translating between Italian and English and also making small talk with the customer's wife.
Sorry, I can't remember all the proper names for stuff on the menu, but I can tell you for what was not overly complicated food it was delicious.

v: what is your line of business, if you don't mind me asking.

Guessing you meant me, I wholesale parts for old English sportscars. Done this on and off for most of my working life but have done other things in the motor trade. I still haven't decided what to do if I grow up.

veronese68

sa0u823e wrote:

My favourite trattoria is in Verona

Where and what's it called? We'll be stoppng to see family on the way to Tuscany in the summer. There used to be a fabulous one above a bar just off Piazza Bra, long since gone unfortunately.

VTech

Veronese68 wrote:

Matthewfalle wrote:

Veronese68 wrote:

Dinner was delicious. For my aperitif I just went with a glass of bubbles, skipped the antipasto and went straight for the pasta with a delicious truffle and bacon sauce followed by a lovely bit of steak. Washed it down with a nice local red, sorry but I can't remember what it was. Finished off with a chocolate thing. Skipped the digestivo as I'd had plenty to drink by this point. Quite tiring trying to talk shop, translating between Italian and English and also making small talk with the customer's wife.
Sorry, I can't remember all the proper names for stuff on the menu, but I can tell you for what was not overly complicated food it was delicious.

v: what is your line of business, if you don't mind me asking.

Guessing you meant me, I wholesale parts for old English sportscars. Done this on and off for most of my working life but have done other things in the motor trade. I still haven't decided what to do if I grow up.

:oops:
What cars do you cover ? Ive always loved the older 50's and 60's sports cars.

Matthewfalle

Veronese68 wrote:

Matthewfalle wrote:

Veronese68 wrote:

Dinner was delicious. For my aperitif I just went with a glass of bubbles, skipped the antipasto and went straight for the pasta with a delicious truffle and bacon sauce followed by a lovely bit of steak. Washed it down with a nice local red, sorry but I can't remember what it was. Finished off with a chocolate thing. Skipped the digestivo as I'd had plenty to drink by this point. Quite tiring trying to talk shop, translating between Italian and English and also making small talk with the customer's wife.
Sorry, I can't remember all the proper names for stuff on the menu, but I can tell you for what was not overly complicated food it was delicious.

v: what is your line of business, if you don't mind me asking.

Guessing you meant me, I wholesale parts for old English sportscars. Done this on and off for most of my working life but have done other things in the motor trade. I still haven't decided what to do if I grow up.

Yup - meant you sounds quite intriguing: past time that's turned into a living.