Panache Jersey - Giro 2014 (contains spoliers)
TheBigBean
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I think every GT should have a panache jersey to reward the brave and attacking riders who don't always cross the line first. With this in mind, I intend to keep a score for this year's Giro. I welcome all comment, banter, predictions and disagreements in the spirit of this thread especially as I'm going to miss the first two stages.
The rules:
1. 2 points to the stage winner. It takes panache to win no matter how you do it.
2. 2 points to the TV winner
3. An arbitrary total of 6-11 points awarded to the riders who have ridden with the most panache.
4. TTs don't count
5. Clothing and riding position don't count even if the rider wins the highly coveted frenchfighter award for style.
6. A special bonus 5 points for an exceptional performance that will be talked about in years to come.
E.g. Thierry Marie would have scooped 20 points in one stage in the 1991 tour.
The prize:
Unrivalled fame and glory and maybe a tweet if someone can be bothered.
Ts & Cs:
I reserve the right to get bored and abandon the jersey half way through. Nothing like commitment.
The rules:
1. 2 points to the stage winner. It takes panache to win no matter how you do it.
2. 2 points to the TV winner
3. An arbitrary total of 6-11 points awarded to the riders who have ridden with the most panache.
4. TTs don't count
5. Clothing and riding position don't count even if the rider wins the highly coveted frenchfighter award for style.
6. A special bonus 5 points for an exceptional performance that will be talked about in years to come.
E.g. Thierry Marie would have scooped 20 points in one stage in the 1991 tour.
The prize:
Unrivalled fame and glory and maybe a tweet if someone can be bothered.
Ts & Cs:
I reserve the right to get bored and abandon the jersey half way through. Nothing like commitment.
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How about points for gurning as well?0
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Ha good one. Lets hope a Colombian Coldeoportes rider shows some.Contador is the Greatest0
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Garry H wrote:How about points for gurning as well?
A Stephen Roche style collapse is likely to score highly whereas a premier league footballer style fake injury is likely to score lowly. So really it just matters whether the gurning is for show. No rider in particular that you are thinking of, right?0 -
Secret cameras would need to be set up, just to make sure that Tom, ahem, I mean the rider, isn't just doing it for tv.TheBigBean wrote:Garry H wrote:How about points for gurning as well?
A Stephen Roche style collapse is likely to score highly whereas a premier league footballer style fake injury is likely to score lowly. So really it just matters whether the gurning is for show. No rider in particular that you are thinking of, right?0 -
Tjallingi showed a lot of panache taking the mountain points and putting in a decent dig at the end - only being caught with 3.5km to go. Good effort by the break as a whole riding for 200 km.
Results from stage 2
Maarten Tjallingii 5
Andrea Fedi 4
Marcel Kittel 2
Sander Armee 2
Jeffry Johan Romero Corredor 20 -
One man show at the moment as Tjallingii opens up a sizeable lead. Some people will say he is focusing on the King of Mountains jersey, but it is looking pretty clear he is after the Panache jersey.
Not as much panache on show today though.
Stage 3
Maarten Tjallingii 4
Marcel Kittel 3
Yonder Godoy 1
Miguel Angel Rubiano Chavez 1
Gert Dockx 1
Giorgio Cecchinel 1
Overall
Maarten Tjallingii 9
Marcel Kittel 5
Andrea Fedi 4
Sander Armee 2
Jeffry Johan Romero Corredor 2
Yonder Godoy 1
Miguel Angel Rubiano Chavez 1
Gert Dockx 1
Giorgio Cecchinel 10 -
Thought Kittel was angling for some points by collapsing after the stage, clearly the judges weren't convinced though.0
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thegibdog wrote:Thought Kittel was angling for some points by collapsing after the stage, clearly the judges weren't convinced though.
I missed that and a collapse does merit something so I've given him another pont, and he is now clear in 2nd place. I almost gave him a bonus point because he came from so far back with such a powerful finish. It was a sprint with panache.0 -
It was also his birthday... He deserves even more panache points for that sprint and collapse.0
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Not much panache around in stage 4, so I've broken the rules a bit.
Quiet day for Tjallingii in the Panchache Jersey. Presumably he is planning to cerment his position with attacks in stage 5.
Stage 4
Nacer Bouhanni - 3
Elia Viviani - 2
Bouhanni scoring a bonus point for the recovery from a puncture. Viviani scoring points for the intermediate - really not sure this was deserved.
Overall
Maarten Tjallingii 9
Marcel Kittel 4
Andrea Fedi 4
Nacer Bouhanni 3
Sander Armee 2
Jeffry Johan Romero Corredor 2
Elia Viviani 2
Yonder Godoy 1
Miguel Angel Rubiano Chavez 1
Gert Dockx 1
Giorgio Cecchinel 10 -
Bouhanni had to swerve violently to avoid a rider sliding out in front of him as he was trying to make his way back to the front, causing him to lose even more ground to the small Giant led group who looked as though they had the race won by default. Not only did he manage to make such a maneuver which would have been impressive enough even without the slippery conditions, he somehow also managed to go quick enough to get back on to that group and win the race despite the fact that riders all around him were tumbling off. Proper panache in my book.
http://inrng.tumblr.com/post/856482629730 -
Surely Kittel needs to be removed from the competition (or given a 100 point penalty for withdrawing after 3 flat stages)?0
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Points for Quinziato and Paolini for showing dissent during yesterday's stage?0
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RonB wrote:Points for Quinziato and Paolini for showing dissent during yesterday's stage?
Bad behaviour is not panache!
OT. But I didn't understand the Paolinin/Quinziato/Bling beef... why was it in BMC or Katusha's interests to try and race given that neither really has a sprinter and both teams would be portecting GC riders. Cadel was also trying to ease things up I thought.0 -
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I need help with today's stage. Brambillia deserves some points, but did anyone do anything earlier of note?0
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Pross wrote:Surely Kittel needs to be removed from the competition (or given a 100 point penalty for withdrawing after 3 flat stages)?
Somethings, like this, aren't that well thought through. But you're right, you've got to be in the race to wear a jersey especially the panache jersey.0 -
Hmm not really to be honest. The break were mainly out to get some points. Tosh Van Der Sande attacked more than once to try and go on a solo breakaway so he deserves a mention.
I think Brambilla should get the most points though. It took balls to go at full speed down a slippery descent.0 -
Ah, okay, so you were simply trolling rather than attempting to contribute anything worthwhile.RichN95 wrote:0 -
DeadCalm wrote:Bouhanni had to swerve violently to avoid a rider sliding out in front of him as he was trying to make his way back to the front, causing him to lose even more ground to the small Giant led group who looked as though they had the race won by default. Not only did he manage to make such a maneuver which would have been impressive enough even without the slippery conditions, he somehow also managed to go quick enough to get back on to that group and win the race despite the fact that riders all around him were tumbling off. Proper panache in my book.
http://inrng.tumblr.com/post/85648262973
I missed that. It turns out out I miss a lot of things - that's what I've learnt so far.0 -
Perhaps points for Brambilla today. He certainly showed panache with his audacious descent/attack0
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TheBigBean wrote:I need help with today's stage. Brambillia deserves some points, but did anyone do anything earlier of note?
You could give the Europcar team 2 points in rotation each day as they are likely to have someone in the break every day as usual. Generally I think it was a pretty dull affair again.0 -
DeadCalm wrote:
Not sure you need to be so sensitive on someone else's behalf, it was intended as an affectionate jibe to someone who I've seen use the term frequently about riders that often aren't successful but do provide entertainment.
If he's offended I apologise (to him).0 -
Fair play. I was almost certainly being over-sensitive.Mad_Malx wrote:DeadCalm wrote:
Not sure you need to be so sensitive on someone else's behalf, it was intended as an affectionate jibe to someone who I've seen use the term frequently about riders that often aren't successful but do provide entertainment.
If he's offended I apologise (to him).0 -
I reckon a rider REALLY deserves it if they show enough panache to win the panache jersey despite not completing all stages!TheBigBean wrote:Pross wrote:Surely Kittel needs to be removed from the competition (or given a 100 point penalty for withdrawing after 3 flat stages)?
Somethings, like this, aren't that well thought through. But you're right, you've got to be in the race to wear a jersey especially the panache jersey.
Having a 10 point lead and withdrawing before the final stage, believing you've already got enough panache points to win - that's surely panache!0 -
dish_dash wrote:OT. But I didn't understand the Paolinin/Quinziato/Bling beef... why was it in BMC or Katusha's interests to try and race given that neither really has a sprinter and both teams would be portecting GC riders. Cadel was also trying to ease things up I thought.
Local riders with local DSs in the cars getting calls from local journalists along the lines of - make me a feud for tomorrows papers, or we rip y'all fresh ones - was my interpretation. Of course, J-Rod could have been looking to play some Russian roulette.
Edit - sorry for the diversion. I like the suggestion above that being too cool for the jersey is an important subjective consideration alongside the current analytical methods....a rare 100% loyal Pro Race poster. A poster boy for the community.0
