Road seat advice to relieve perineal nerve damage

handful · July 2014

Crashs2k wrote:

I've found the Dynamic (least padding) uncomfortable over an hour but did a 4 hour ride at the weekend with the Drakon (mid-level padding) which was much better. Have got the Lite 209 (which has the most padding) to try now.

Good luck!

I liked the Dynamic more than the Drakon and am now waiting for a Lite 209 to be returned to Dillglove so I can try one of them.......HURRY UP AND SEND IT BACK!!!!!

drlodge · July 2014

I too have the Lite 209, actually 3 of them, one of which is brand new and not on a bike right now...

Crashs2k · July 2014

handful wrote:

Crashs2k wrote:

I've found the Dynamic (least padding) uncomfortable over an hour but did a 4 hour ride at the weekend with the Drakon (mid-level padding) which was much better. Have got the Lite 209 (which has the most padding) to try now.

Good luck!

I liked the Dynamic more than the Drakon and am now waiting for a Lite 209 to be returned to Dillglove so I can try one of them.......HURRY UP AND SEND IT BACK!!!!!

Will do! Although if you preferred the Dynamic to the Drakon not sure the Lite 209 will be right for you as it has slightly more padding than the Drakon.

Might have a lightly used Dynamic for sale shortly if you're interested...

Crashs2k · July 2014

drlodge wrote:

I too have the Lite 209, actually 3 of them, one of which is brand new and not on a bike right now...

Are you looking to move it on Doc? May be interested if ride over this weekend goes well.

drlodge · July 2014

Not looking to sell it, but could lend it out if you're local. I'm in Guildford, Surrey.

The Mechanic · July 2014

I have a Selle SMP 209 Lite I would be willing to sell. I have persevered with it but it is not right for me.

Schleck's Chain · July 2014

I had similar discomfort. I did two things:

1) Bought a new saddle (Rido Rltr). This helped a bit but didn't solve the problem entirely.

2) Got a bike fit done. I've had two fairly long rides since this and not had any pain.

It's a bit early to be sure I've solved the problem entirely. As others have said, I think small tweaks can make a big difference. The bike fit does feel like it has helped get me sat more on my sit bones when riding. Hopefully it will continue to be ok.

Crashs2k · July 2014

The Mechanic wrote:

I have a Selle SMP 209 Lite I would be willing to sell. I have persevered with it but it is not right for me.

I've sent you a PM.

Thanks
John

almostdone · July 2014

too many saddles now can't test them all, I get sore doing long miles not sure if its because no fat on my arse or the padding in shorts Never had problems years ago with chamois and cream

handful · July 2014

Crashs2k wrote:

handful wrote:

Crashs2k wrote:

I've found the Dynamic (least padding) uncomfortable over an hour but did a 4 Ihour ride at the weekend with the Drakon (mid-level padding) which was much better. Have got the Lite 209 (which has the most padding) to try now.

Good luck!

I liked the Dynamic more than the Drakon and am now waiting for a Lite 209 to be returned to Dillglove so I can try one of them.......HURRY UP AND SEND IT BACK!!!!!

Will do! Although if you preferred the Dynamic to the Drakon not sure the Lite 209 will be right for you as it has slightly more padding than the Drakon.

Might have a lightly used Dynamic for sale shortly if you're interested...

I may take you up on that! I also tried a Forma which has no padding at all and that was torture, hence me now thinking a Lite 209 is worth a try before maybe going for a heavily discounted Dynamic.

ACDC271 · July 2014

I ride a lot, both road and mtb but over the last year mostly road now and have tried lots of saddles from a number of brands, either demo'd or bought new second hand then sold on. Some were ok, some very painful but nothing that would stop the numbness all together especially on turbo sessions over the winter months(never been able to sit for more than 20mins on the turbo and usually started to feel numb after 5-10mins)

Until I discovered the Rido Rlt...£60

http://www.rido-cyclesaddles.com

This is the BEST saddle I have ever sat on and I will now have nothing else. I can sit on this thing for hours (back to back 6-8hr rides no problem, 2hrs on the tubo no problem)

cerv50 · July 2014

podsquad wrote:

Hey guys,

Currently testing the ISM Adamo road seat, after one 50 miler and three turbo sessions on it I am pleased to say so fsr so good. It took some fretting to get the position right, not sure I have it perfect yet as I keep having to switch it between two bikes.

One thing that I have noticed is your "seat bones" hurt, it does state in the instructions this will happen until you adjust to the position. Pressure on the perineal nerve seems to be massively reduced. Like I say I seem to be getting the pain In the correct areas, so that's a bonus. I have got this seat for another 10 days so hoping to get another two 50 milers or maybe a linger one depending on time and a few turbo sessions. Once I have a proper feel for the seat I will right up a mini review.

I am tempted to also try the Breakaway seat next, and go from there. I have also gotten hold of a Selle SMP so will give that a whirl in a week or two. Declan I have heard good things about the Fizik Arione, currently trying to find one to test or even buy used to test then sell and buy a new one depending on how I get on. Possibly getting ahead of myself!

Regarding the cheap seats, I have a basic Sella Italia X1 which has next to no padding very flat and thin fsr more comfiest than my other expensive sella seat which will be getting thrown at the wall at some point due to the pain it has caused me! The issue we all have as you stated is there are far too many saddles trying to fit the entire planet, what ever happened to simple.

I have a ISM Adamo Breakaway on my bike and can quite happily ride for 100 miles with no pain or numbness in the area in question. Sit bones hurt/ache for probably 20 to 30 minutes when first starting out on a ride but its only the muscles getting used to the different pressure. Once that is over the saddle is prefect. It doesn't help I only get to ride the bike once a week so the butt muscles are not gaining strength quickly enough.

yaya · December 2016

Sorry for digging out this old thread...
8 months ago I was involved a "nearly gone" accident when a Blue Skoda driver thought I was transparent and ran over me...short helicopter flight, 3.5 months in hospitals, 3 major surgeries and I am now starting to look into when and how I can go back to cycling...
One thing that is clear, at least from the urologists' standpoint, is that I will not be able to sit on a "normal" saddle because of the pressure and the potential damage to the urethra.
I've used cutout saddles in the past from Selle Italia and Specialized and while researching and reading about ISM and SMP, I bumped into this website: http://spongywonder.com/noseless-bike-seat-mk10-series. I know they look horrible and I am guessing that not having a saddle between your legs can affect handling...I exchanged a few emails with the owner of the company and he says that about 1/3 or his customers are on road bikes and that the majority of people who buy them are extremely happy.
I am in no real rush and I think that I will likely order one in the new year and try it on the turbo trainer. But I was wondering if anyone on here has ever seen these in the flesh or maybe tried them on the road?

Thanks!

imposter2.0 · December 2016

Bloody ell, mate - that sounds like one hell of an accident. Best wishes..

Someone local to me has one of those saddles, but I've not seen them about for a while (they are also female, so their experience may or may not even be relevant). I'll ask if I see them though..

jermas · December 2016

I've recently started using ISM adamo saddles (attack model) and think their design would possibly help you. They seem to relieve almost all "undercarriage" pressure and redistribute it to the sit bones. Before using them I had a constant (3years) saddle/pressure sore that would give me pain every ride. Since the switch- pain free (well tender sit bones, but hey).
If you hunt around they can be found for far less the RRP.
Good luck!

RobinB2 · December 2016

I've suffered from similar issues in the past and tried a number of different saddles - currently a Specialized Romin on my summer bike and a Toupe on my winter / commuting bike

However, the thing that seems to have the most beneficial effect is to tilt my saddle forward by approx 5 degrees. Whenever symptoms start to return, it's usually a sign that the saddle angle has slipped back towards the horizontal and needs adjusting

cycleclinic · December 2016

No one can give saddle recommendations. I fit people on bikes and even I shy away from this. All a fitter can do is position the saddle correctly and this resolve 90% of discomfort issues. If the correct position does not resolve the discomfort then different saddles have to be tried until a comfy one is found. I know the shape I can use but was then surprised that a brooks B17 is actually the nicest thing I have sat on on a bike. There is no way to predict this but to all those who have issues with saddles do not assume you have it set up correctly.

Your saddle should be level and your bum should be right at the back with no saddle showing. the number of people I saw on todays club run who where sitting too far forward was the majority of the group. These people need to move there saddle forward or use a seat post with less set back. Doing this will not change the position you have on the bike just your position on the saddle.

yaya · December 2016

Thanks guys, my issue is that I'm not allowed (or at least that's what the surgeons think) to have any kind of pressure on the perennial area so it'll have to be something with a large cutout. The spongy wonder ones caught my eye because basically it's not a saddle it's more like a perch...
BTW if anyone is interested in my story, I've just published the 1st part of it...please feel free to share it as I'm hoping it'll make people pay more attention to their surroundings as road users and thus hopefully help save lives....
http://wp.me/pMhux-b2

kingrollo · January 2017

yaya wrote:

Thanks guys, my issue is that I'm not allowed (or at least that's what the surgeons think) to have any kind of pressure on the perennial area so it'll have to be something with a large cutout. The spongy wonder ones caught my eye because basically it's not a saddle it's more like a perch...
BTW if anyone is interested in my story, I've just published the 1st part of it...please feel free to share it as I'm hoping it'll make people pay more attention to their surroundings as road users and thus hopefully help save lives....
http://wp.me/pMhux-b2

Its a massive leap of faith - but have you thought of a recumbent bike ?

I couldn't sit on a normal bike for around 3 years. but had some serious fun on recumbent bikes. don't be put off by the image - there are recumbents with 700c wheels and every bit as fast as road equivalents.

PM me if you want more info

webboo · January 2017

thecycleclinic wrote:

Your saddle should be level and your bum should be right at the back with no saddle showing. the number of people I saw on todays club run who where sitting too far forward was the majority of the group. These people need to move there saddle forward or use a seat post with less set back. Doing this will not change the position you have on the bike just your position on the saddle.

What about being on " the rivet "

yaya · January 2017

kingrollo wrote:

yaya wrote:

Thanks guys, my issue is that I'm not allowed (or at least that's what the surgeons think) to have any kind of pressure on the perennial area so it'll have to be something with a large cutout. The spongy wonder ones caught my eye because basically it's not a saddle it's more like a perch...
BTW if anyone is interested in my story, I've just published the 1st part of it...please feel free to share it as I'm hoping it'll make people pay more attention to their surroundings as road users and thus hopefully help save lives....
http://wp.me/pMhux-b2

Its a massive leap of faith - but have you thought of a recumbent bike ?

I couldn't sit on a normal bike for around 3 years. but had some serious fun on recumbent bikes. don't be put off by the image - there are recumbents with 700c wheels and every bit as fast as road equivalents.

PM me if you want more info

Thanks for the suggestion! Those are somewhere on the list of options to look at, as well as a couple of EliptiGo "bikes" similar to gym multi-trainer, But I am going to start with making a "normal" bike work (or not)...so I got the shortest ISM saddle, called "Sport" and have started using it on the turbo trainer...so far it seems to work somehow. It changes the way you sit and that specific model, in order to work on a road bike probably needs a bit more forward tilt that what my current seat post provide. I've only done a few rides of 30-40 minutes at a time and as it is on the turbo I can sit up, no hands style or use the handlebar so it is not too difficult, but it will take more time to be able to do proper sessions...we're not there yet and there's a huge difference between a turbo and a real road...
Thanks again!

kingrollo · January 2017

yaya wrote:

kingrollo wrote:

yaya wrote:

Thanks guys, my issue is that I'm not allowed (or at least that's what the surgeons think) to have any kind of pressure on the perennial area so it'll have to be something with a large cutout. The spongy wonder ones caught my eye because basically it's not a saddle it's more like a perch...
BTW if anyone is interested in my story, I've just published the 1st part of it...please feel free to share it as I'm hoping it'll make people pay more attention to their surroundings as road users and thus hopefully help save lives....
http://wp.me/pMhux-b2

Its a massive leap of faith - but have you thought of a recumbent bike ?

I couldn't sit on a normal bike for around 3 years. but had some serious fun on recumbent bikes. don't be put off by the image - there are recumbents with 700c wheels and every bit as fast as road equivalents.

PM me if you want more info

Thanks for the suggestion! Those are somewhere on the list of options to look at, as well as a couple of EliptiGo "bikes" similar to gym multi-trainer, But I am going to start with making a "normal" bike work (or not)...so I got the shortest ISM saddle, called "Sport" and have started using it on the turbo trainer...so far it seems to work somehow. It changes the way you sit and that specific model, in order to work on a road bike probably needs a bit more forward tilt that what my current seat post provide. I've only done a few rides of 30-40 minutes at a time and as it is on the turbo I can sit up, no hands style or use the handlebar so it is not too difficult, but it will take more time to be able to do proper sessions...we're not there yet and there's a huge difference between a turbo and a real road...
Thanks again!

Yes thats a good strategy - try the cheaper options to get you on a normal bike. I read your blog and those xrays look horrendous.
I will admit - although I did a lot of research on recumbents. I was in a bit of rage when actually pulled the trigger. The question that popped into my head one fine spring morning was

"right what will definitely get me out there cycling right now "

the fact you can ride on a turbo is great news. I would suggest that on the open road maybe a tad easier - youre pretty much static on a turbo - where as you move around on road bike.

good luck and keep us posted.

hambini · January 2017

That X Ray looked horrendous.

yaya · January 2017

kingrollo wrote:

Yes thats a good strategy - try the cheaper options to get you on a normal bike. I read your blog and those xrays look horrendous.
I will admit - although I did a lot of research on recumbents. I was in a bit of rage when actually pulled the trigger. The question that popped into my head one fine spring morning was

"right what will definitely get me out there cycling right now "

the fact you can ride on a turbo is great news. I would suggest that on the open road maybe a tad easier - youre pretty much static on a turbo - where as you move around on road bike.

good luck and keep us posted.

Doing a research I find that there are all sorts of designs for recumbents and even for "reversed" ones such as these http://www.roadbikereview.com/reviews/first-look-bird-of-prey And to find the one that works for you could be fun but also seems like hit and miss. But as my overall recovery is going to take a while I don't need to rush it even though this goes against my nature of wanting to challenge myself more and achieve things faster...we'll see...

thanks again!

kingrollo · January 2017

yaya wrote:

kingrollo wrote:

Yes thats a good strategy - try the cheaper options to get you on a normal bike. I read your blog and those xrays look horrendous.
I will admit - although I did a lot of research on recumbents. I was in a bit of rage when actually pulled the trigger. The question that popped into my head one fine spring morning was

"right what will definitely get me out there cycling right now "

the fact you can ride on a turbo is great news. I would suggest that on the open road maybe a tad easier - youre pretty much static on a turbo - where as you move around on road bike.

good luck and keep us posted.

Doing a research I find that there are all sorts of designs for recumbents and even for "reversed" ones such as these http://www.roadbikereview.com/reviews/first-look-bird-of-prey And to find the one that works for you could be fun but also seems like hit and miss. But as my overall recovery is going to take a while I don't need to rush it even though this goes against my nature of wanting to challenge myself more and achieve things faster...we'll see...

thanks again!

PM sent.

Road seat advice to relieve perineal nerve damage

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