Tour de San Luis *SPOILERS*

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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,434
    No idea what's happening

    Looks like a break of about a dozen riders will fight for the stage.

    Can't see and Movistar or Garmin - but the camera man is about 2 miles away
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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,434
    Oops.

    Think a Colombia rider took that from Quintana in third.

    Maybe
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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,434
    Appalling coverage.

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    Podio de la 6ta etapa de el #TourdeSanLuis "Las Chacras – Merlo (Mirador del Sol) 184,4 km"

    1)Arredondo
    2)Godoy
    3)Quintana
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  • mroli
    mroli Posts: 3,622
    Its a real shame the coverage is rubbish because this is a good little season opener. Instead of the UCI trying to expand into China - why aren't there more central/South American races? Cycling is massively popular in some of these countries (I lived in Belize for a while and despite there only being 3 proper roads in the whole country, there were cycle clubs going out every weekend) and global expansion would work better there from a spectator point of view. No money?
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    mroli wrote:
    Its a real shame the coverage is rubbish because this is a good little season opener. Instead of the UCI trying to expand into China - why aren't there more central/South American races? Cycling is massively popular in some of these countries (I lived in Belize for a while and despite there only being 3 proper roads in the whole country, there were cycle clubs going out every weekend) and global expansion would work better there from a spectator point of view. No money?

    Correct. China = big market with money.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    mroli wrote:
    Its a real shame the coverage is rubbish because this is a good little season opener. Instead of the UCI trying to expand into China - why aren't there more central/South American races?
    You've answered your question before you asked it. The UCI aren't going expand into South America because the coverage is rubbish. Roadside spectators don't fund races or attract sponsors. TV does.
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    Tyler w/a lot of road rash and maybe some broken ribs. Add this to local GC riders getting pushes from motos/cars on climbs... #BS #SanLuis

    from phinney, Gaimon had a similar moan.
  • Nibs believes he's got a broken rib, according to Gregor Brown
  • mike6
    mike6 Posts: 1,199
    iainf72 wrote:
    mroli wrote:
    Its a real shame the coverage is rubbish because this is a good little season opener. Instead of the UCI trying to expand into China - why aren't there more central/South American races? Cycling is massively popular in some of these countries (I lived in Belize for a while and despite there only being 3 proper roads in the whole country, there were cycle clubs going out every weekend) and global expansion would work better there from a spectator point of view. No money?

    Correct. China = big market with money.

    Aye,same old story.Never mind what is best for cycle racing as a whole, the UCI still seem more interested in what can make the UCI richer and more powerful. :?
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    mike6 wrote:
    iainf72 wrote:
    mroli wrote:
    Its a real shame the coverage is rubbish because this is a good little season opener. Instead of the UCI trying to expand into China - why aren't there more central/South American races? Cycling is massively popular in some of these countries (I lived in Belize for a while and despite there only being 3 proper roads in the whole country, there were cycle clubs going out every weekend) and global expansion would work better there from a spectator point of view. No money?

    Correct. China = big market with money.

    Aye,same old story.Never mind what is best for cycle racing as a whole, the UCI still seem more interested in what can make the UCI richer and more powerful. :?

    No way.
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Tks for updates TWH.

    Three wins for Trek, two from Arrendondo. Very happy the Colombians are out in force in the WT...bringing back some sorely missed passion, flair and some real climbing talent.

    Huge again by Yates...I am still genuinely shocked...although his previous results speak for themselves, repeatedly smashing it up is impressive especially given the guys he is beating. So pleased. Great idea not going to Sky...if they want him in a few years they will have to pay 10x his worth now. The best thing too is that its not Simon...who Sky wanted but not Adam. BC didnt want Adam either so he was racing in France and is now a specialist climber. Imagine him going for KOM in a GT. Suck on that talent.

    Tom D going a great job for Gaimon. Congratulations to that rider for digging deep and hanging in there.

    I wonder if humble Quintana gifted the stage.
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  • inseine
    inseine Posts: 5,788
    Tks for updates TWH.

    Three wins for Trek, two from Arrendondo. Very happy the Colombians are out in force in the WT...bringing back some sorely missed passion, flair and some real climbing talent.

    Huge again by Yates...I am still genuinely shocked...although his previous results speak for themselves, repeatedly smashing it up is impressive especially given the guys he is beating. So pleased. Great idea not going to Sky...if they want him in a few years they will have to pay 10x his worth now. The best thing too is that its not Simon...who Sky wanted but not Adam. BC didnt want Adam either so he was racing in France and is now a specialist climber. Imagine him going for KOM in a GT. Suck on that talent.

    Tom D going a great job for Gaimon. Congratulations to that rider for digging deep and hanging in there.

    I wonder if humble Quintana gifted the stage.

    Another brilliant example of turning a positive into a negative. Well done.
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,434
    I wonder if humble Quintana gifted the stage.

    From what I read he did a bit more than that
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  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Care to explain yourself inseine because I am lost here? Or just not post stupid comments like that.
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  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    I wonder if humble Quintana gifted the stage.

    From what I read he did a bit more than that

    ?
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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,434
    I wonder if humble Quintana gifted the stage.

    From what I read he did a bit more than that

    ?


    Maybe reading to much into this tweet, but it read like he was working 'for' him as much as 'with' him

    Neal Rogers ‏@nealrogers 18h
    Colombian combine? Quintana happy to pace Trek's Arredondo up the final km, then let him sprint to take the stage win. #TourdeSanLuis
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  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Interesting, thanks.
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  • inseine
    inseine Posts: 5,788
    Care to explain yourself inseine because I am lost here? Or just not post stupid comments like that.

    How can you not understand something yet know its stupid? Interesting.

    You know very well that you love to turn a positive story (Yates) into an anti SKY rant.
    I find your comments a bit tedious but I've never called you stupid.
  • Heh, the thing is someone like Brailsford is in a win-win situation. If either or both Yates lads progress well in the WT, irrespective of the team, it's good for British Cycling - and GB. As for Sky as the sponsor, when either or both Simon or Adam represent - at elite level - GB in Worlds or Olympics down the road, whose name will be on the jerseys or skinsuits? Sky's.

    As for British fans who want to see British talent flourishing, meh, doesn't matter who they're riding for, trade team-wise.

    It's not - or shouldn't be - a strange little point-scoring exercise.
  • mike6
    mike6 Posts: 1,199
    inseine wrote:
    Care to explain yourself inseine because I am lost here? Or just not post stupid comments like that.

    How can you not understand something yet know its stupid? Interesting.

    You know very well that you love to turn a positive story (Yates) into an anti SKY rant.
    I find your comments a bit tedious but I've never called you stupid.

    Quite agree. Why cant people who are zealots about the riders they like, feel compelled to knock another team or rider in the same breath? :roll:

    We know you dont like Sky, you don't need to remind us in every post. :roll:
  • Yellow Peril
    Yellow Peril Posts: 4,466
    Heh, the thing is someone like Brailsford is in a win-win situation. If either or both Yates lads progress well in the WT, irrespective of the team, it's good for British Cycling - and GB. As for Sky as the sponsor, when either or both Simon or Adam represent - at elite level - GB in Worlds or Olympics down the road, whose name will be on the jerseys or skinsuits? Sky's.

    As for British fans who want to see British talent flourishing, meh, doesn't matter who they're riding for, trade team-wise.

    It's not - or shouldn't be - a strange little point-scoring exercise
    .


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  • inseine
    inseine Posts: 5,788
    Heh, the thing is someone like Brailsford is in a win-win situation. If either or both Yates lads progress well in the WT, irrespective of the team, it's good for British Cycling - and GB. As for Sky as the sponsor, when either or both Simon or Adam represent - at elite level - GB in Worlds or Olympics down the road, whose name will be on the jerseys or skinsuits? Sky's.

    As for British fans who want to see British talent flourishing, meh, doesn't matter who they're riding for, trade team-wise.

    It's not - or shouldn't be - a strange little point-scoring exercise
    .


    *Applause*

    quite
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    inseine wrote:
    Care to explain yourself inseine because I am lost here? Or just not post stupid comments like that.

    How can you not understand something yet know its stupid? Interesting.

    You know very well that you love to turn a positive story (Yates) into an anti SKY rant.
    I find your comments a bit tedious but I've never called you stupid.

    You are wrong as what I wrote on that post and other ones in this thread have been positive. Me saying I am happy he is not with Sky is not only relevant but simply my opinion. What I have mentioned is accurate as well. Me berating Sky all the time is not worth it for me or for others so I dont do it and havent for some time.

    I didnt call you stupid (I know for sure you arent) I called your comment stupid as you are creating something that isnt really there. But I suppose cry wolf and all that...its easy for ppl to pick on me whenever I mention Sky.

    How about giving your thoughts on the race and performances?
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  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Heh, the thing is someone like Brailsford is in a win-win situation. If either or both Yates lads progress well in the WT, irrespective of the team, it's good for British Cycling - and GB. As for Sky as the sponsor, when either or both Simon or Adam represent - at elite level - GB in Worlds or Olympics down the road, whose name will be on the jerseys or skinsuits? Sky's.

    As for British fans who want to see British talent flourishing, meh, doesn't matter who they're riding for, trade team-wise.

    It's not - or shouldn't be - a strange little point-scoring exercise.

    I support a rider if I respect them and if they excite me but I dont support a rider just because I am the same nationality as them.

    As you will agree, the choice of team has a huge impact on a rider's development, style and schedule so indeed it is very important what team a rider goes to. Its no different to the Yates brothers. As they said themselves, they dont want to be riding on the front like slaves. Lots of great young riders have gone to Sky and are riding in the shadows, before the tv cameras start rolling or hardly at all...as a fan this is not good for me.
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  • mike6
    mike6 Posts: 1,199
    Heh, the thing is someone like Brailsford is in a win-win situation. If either or both Yates lads progress well in the WT, irrespective of the team, it's good for British Cycling - and GB. As for Sky as the sponsor, when either or both Simon or Adam represent - at elite level - GB in Worlds or Olympics down the road, whose name will be on the jerseys or skinsuits? Sky's.

    As for British fans who want to see British talent flourishing, meh, doesn't matter who they're riding for, trade team-wise.

    It's not - or shouldn't be - a strange little point-scoring exercise.

    I support a rider if I respect them and if they excite me but I dont support a rider just because I am the same nationality as them.

    As you will agree, the choice of team has a huge impact on a rider's development, style and schedule so indeed it is very important what team a rider goes to. Its no different to the Yates brothers. As they said themselves, they dont want to be riding on the front like slaves. Lots of great young riders have gone to Sky and are riding in the shadows, before the tv cameras start rolling or hardly at all...as a fan this is not good for me.

    That would be splendid and sensible, but you stated, in so many words, that you are supporting the Yates because they don't ride for Sky.
    A lot of people do support riders because they are British. If it raises the profile of cycling in this country and get more people on bikes, whats not to like?
  • Yellow Peril
    Yellow Peril Posts: 4,466
    mike6 wrote:
    Heh, the thing is someone like Brailsford is in a win-win situation. If either or both Yates lads progress well in the WT, irrespective of the team, it's good for British Cycling - and GB. As for Sky as the sponsor, when either or both Simon or Adam represent - at elite level - GB in Worlds or Olympics down the road, whose name will be on the jerseys or skinsuits? Sky's.

    As for British fans who want to see British talent flourishing, meh, doesn't matter who they're riding for, trade team-wise.

    It's not - or shouldn't be - a strange little point-scoring exercise.

    I support a rider if I respect them and if they excite me but I dont support a rider just because I am the same nationality as them.

    As you will agree, the choice of team has a huge impact on a rider's development, style and schedule so indeed it is very important what team a rider goes to. Its no different to the Yates brothers. As they said themselves, they dont want to be riding on the front like slaves. Lots of great young riders have gone to Sky and are riding in the shadows, before the tv cameras start rolling or hardly at all...as a fan this is not good for me.

    That would be splendid and sensible, but you stated, in so many words, that you are supporting the Yates because they don't ride for Sky.
    A lot of people do support riders because they are British. If it raises the profile of cycling in this country and get more people on bikes, whats not to like?[/quote]

    It's this for me. As someone who was "into" cycling before it became popular in Britain I see no problem with rooting for Brits whoever or wherever they are in the Pro ranks because we are still so far behind the curve in terms of establishing a cycling culture here in Blighty. However, I can imagine some see it as a bit uncool or mainstream to do so.

    For the avoidance of doubt I root for riders from other countries as well.
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  • Crankbrother
    Crankbrother Posts: 1,695
    The way the BRBBB start twitching as soon as anything un-pro SKY is uttered ...

    I agree that the British talent pool is better spread around giving opportunity to both ride and gain experience of things other than the BC/SKY way ...

    Riding 3rd fiddle in a pre-arranged hierarchy only following the same methodology that has been drummed into you since your racing trajectory began isn't going to improve you as a rider, or person ... Look how a) Crap and b) A$$holish Wiggins now is a result of the mollycoddling system ... Not a good example or environment for young talent ...
  • Absolutely YP. I get as much enjoyment from seeing a Bargeil burst through or a Ulissi starting to show his class, or rooting for Pinot to crack his descending yips, or looking to see how Talansky continues his stage racing development, as I do from rooting for G or Stan, for example.

    (Brad Wiggins is a special case for me, support-wise, as I've followed him through his career and am a obvs a masochist :) )
  • Yellow Peril
    Yellow Peril Posts: 4,466
    The way the BRBBB start twitching as soon as anything un-pro SKY is uttered ...

    I agree that the British talent pool is better spread around giving opportunity to both ride and gain experience of things other than the BC/SKY way ...

    Riding 3rd fiddle in a pre-arranged hierarchy only following the same methodology that has been drummed into you since your racing trajectory began isn't going to improve you as a rider, or person ... Look how a) Crap and b) A$$holish Wiggins now is a result of the mollycoddling system ... Not a good example or environment for young talent ...

    What or who is the BRBBB?
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