please help me PLEASE

ashleydwsmith

Following on from the cleat position thread, I have purchased some bont vaypor shoes. Tried them tonight and they feel good, comfy.
However although I didnt get the foot pain I was getting on the right foot, I did start to get numb toes, and interestingly more on the left foot.
Is this purely a cleat positioning error? Using speedplay zeros. This is really peeing me off as it is causing me to lose enjoyment of riding.

diamonddog

Sounds like cleats, set them up the same as they were on the other shoes because your left foot was OK or do the sitting on the table feet dangling thing then set them up.

nicklouse

straps/laces too tight.

ashleydwsmith

Should hope not,

cougie

Shoes too small ? Socks too thick ? Weather gone colder ?

desweller

nicklouse wrote:

straps/laces too tight.

Aye, what Nick said. And if it's bad when you've not been wearing them for long, it'll get worse as your rides lengthen; your feet swell up, see.

Grill

You're doing them up too tight to compensate for them being too big.

inseine

Very stiff shoes can give some people numb feet and I've heard of complaints about the Bonts. Might have to try inner soles, which obviously work better if the shoes are slightly too big.

ashleydwsmith

You know what I think I'm just going too stop cycling!

B5NGV

It does sound like you are doing them up too tight. When you get fitted for running trainers they leave room for your feet swelling and on my bike when I do up my shoes I clench my feet slightly as I do them up and then when I release this is comfortable for me. This is a personal thing but it works for me.

ashleydwsmith

I did that with my mavics but my foot still hurt although that was where the fifth metatarsal was

triban

if the shoe is a little too big, you might be clenching your toes in an attempt to hold on to the shoe. It's an unconscious reflex, i had the same problem earlier this year, just my right foot. bought some shoes that fitted better and its all good now.

maybe try some insoles?

ashleydwsmith

We'll I'm going to get my foot measured today. Doing the bont measurement I should be in a 42.5 but I need the wide fit. So will give them a whirl. It's just amazing how much of a minefield shoes are.

darkhairedlord

tyre pressures too high causing vibration. Think "vibration white finger" but for your toes. Failing this, and on another set of shoes it could just be time to... no, i'm not saying it, i'm too polite!

murf1480

B5NGV wrote:

I clench my feet slightly as I do them up and then when I release this is comfortable for me. This is a personal thing but it works for me.

And i thought i was the only one that did this lol

Grill

You also need to look into either better footbeds or modifying the current ones.

Does the numbness start at your big toe or second toe?

ashleydwsmith

Grill, I have just been to have my foot measured at Clark's and it appears I'm a size 8 and not a 9 . So this could be my issue. I'm guessing the potential pain in the right side is due to the foot slipping due to poor fitting. Although I am a g which is a wide fit

goonz

Arn't vapors heat mouldable?

Have you heat moulded them?

Grill

ashleydwsmith wrote:

Grill, I have just been to have my foot measured at Clark's and it appears I'm a size 8 and not a 9 . So this could be my issue. I'm guessing the potential pain in the right side is due to the foot slipping due to poor fitting. Although I am a g which is a wide fit

Measuring in UK sizes is completely pointless as they vary by manufacturer. The only true sizing system is mondo point/JP which is in centimeters and coincidentally the way that Bont sizes their shoes on their sizing guide. I would wager that you pronate heavily which makes your forefoot expand greatly under load. A set of decent footbeds would sort that out.

cougie

This might be a stupid question - but did you try the size up and down on for fit.

The numbers on the shoe make bugger all difference - every maker is slightly different and some shoes just arent a good fit for people.

Go to the LBS and buy a pair of comfy shoes that fit. No point in getting a bargain on flash shoes that aren't comfortable. I'd much rather have a cheap pair that fit well. (jeez are they really over £200 ???)

ashleydwsmith

I have on the bonts and fiziks

cougie

Just two makes ? Did they not have any others ?

I love my Specialized - I have quite wide feet and find them more comfy than the Italian shoes I've worn in the past.

Grill

You do realise that they make Bonts in a wide fit...

ashleydwsmith

Yeah I know, but the concern I have is that the 44,s felt wrong over the top of my foot.

Grill

Probably because they're too big.

ashleydwsmith

Well now I have no shoes and need to shop. Such a pain nowhere does a good selection of shoes near me

napoleond

Where do you live?

ashleydwsmith

Near camberley surrey

Ben6899

ashleydwsmith wrote:

Near camberley surrey

Get a train into London (£16.10 for a Super Offpeak return ticket to Waterloo). Then you're spoilt for choice.

ashleydwsmith

Tried some spesh 74's yesterday very nice felt right on the foot as we'll and the right size!!!

Grill

And yet they're narrower than Bonts...