MSR 2014 Route

frenchfighter
frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
edited March 2014 in Pro race
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/extra-c ... o-for-2014

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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,241
    Not a good idea in my opinion. It was the one race of the year that any type of rider could genuinely win, and in a variety of different way. Probably not anymore. But we shall see.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • Tom Butcher
    Tom Butcher Posts: 3,830
    See how it goes, i think it has been too much of a sprinters race in recent times.
    it's a hard life if you don't weaken.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,241
    Tom Butcher wrote:
    See how it goes, i think it has been too much of a sprinters race in recent times.
    In the six editions since they put in La Manie, four times the finish has been contested by fewer than 10 riders. Even in 2009 there were only 34.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • Turfle
    Turfle Posts: 3,762
    Hate, hate, hate.

    It was a perfectly balanced finished.
  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    Winners since 08

    2013 - Ciolek
    2012 - Gerrans
    2011 - Goss
    2010 - Freire
    2009 - Cav
    2008 - Cancellara
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,661
    Hmm, I think there are better ways to get Nibali a victory personally...

    (joke)
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Richmond Racer wrote:
    Winners since 08

    2013 - Ciolek sprinter
    2012 - Gerrans wheelsucker
    2011 - Goss sprinter
    2010 - Freire sit-in sprinter
    2009 - Cav sit-in sprinter
    2008 - Cancellara Fuoriclasse
    Contador is the Greatest
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,310
    frenchfighter wrote:
    Richmond Racer wrote:
    2008 - Cancellara Fuoriclasse


    Does he not get a down grade for chasing down Tony Martin's solo break?
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • ozzzyosborn206
    ozzzyosborn206 Posts: 1,340
    that has Sagan written all over it
  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    ozzzyosborn206 wrote:
    that has Sagan written all over it


    As did this year
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,710
    Don't like it at all.

    La Manie was doing the business just fine.
    Made the first selection and caused considerable damage on a couple of occasions.

    Now the break will get closed down later, so nothing much will happen until close to km 260.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,310
    Does anyone have a profile of the actual 2013 route?
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,241
    TailWindHome wrote:
    Does anyone have a profile of the actual 2013 route?

    It's in the initial post. The first picture is 2014, the second 2013.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,310
    RichN95 wrote:
    TailWindHome wrote:
    Does anyone have a profile of the actual 2013 route?

    It's in the initial post. The first picture is 2014, the second 2013.

    Sorry. I mean the route they ended up riding...

    I can't quite remember what the changes were....
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,241
    TailWindHome wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    TailWindHome wrote:
    Does anyone have a profile of the actual 2013 route?

    It's in the initial post. The first picture is 2014, the second 2013.

    Sorry. I mean the route they ended up riding...

    I can't quite remember what the changes were....

    According to reports on the day they missed out 117km-213km - the foot of Turchino to the end of the descent of La Manie.
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  • FJS
    FJS Posts: 4,820
    Would have been better to bring the finish back to the Via Roma and leave the rest alone
  • thomthom
    thomthom Posts: 3,574
    Richmond Racer wrote:
    ozzzyosborn206 wrote:
    that has Sagan written all over it


    As did this year

    There was absolutely nothing normal in this years edition.

    It's only fair to say this is all favouring Sagan.
  • knedlicky
    knedlicky Posts: 3,097
    The change is no surprise. A couple of years ago the organisers indicated they’d alter the route for 2014, with the idea of increasing the chances of a break succeeding. At the time, the Technical Manager, Mauro Vegni, said ”We’re looking to see how we can make the race more open and higher the number of potential winners”.

    But I think the organisers want to get back to the days when the winner was someone with the cycling stature of a Bartali or Merckx, or a classic specialist like De Vlaeminck, or at least an acclaimed all-rounder like Fignon or Kelly. So not a sprinter.
    They really should have tightened up the route about 15 years ago when Zabel kept winning and then Cipollini, Petacchi, and then Freire for the first time.

    (Not sure, but I think the change makes the distance longer than ever before, if only by 1 km)
  • greasedscotsman
    greasedscotsman Posts: 6,962
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/cavendi ... mo-in-2014

    No Cavendish then. :D
  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    Not 'appy about the change
  • mike6
    mike6 Posts: 1,199
    Change for the sake of it. There was nothing wrong with the route as it was. Not only was the list of recent winners fairly diverse but it was, in theory at least, open to a win by most types of rider. :evil:
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    mike6 wrote:
    Change for the sake of it. There was nothing wrong with the route as it was. Not only was the list of recent winners fairly diverse but it was, in theory at least, open to a win by most types of rider. :evil:
    Wasn't open to an Italian win, hence the change.
    _
  • deejay
    deejay Posts: 3,138
    FJS wrote:
    Would have been better to bring the finish back to the Via Roma and leave the rest alone
    I agree.
    It has become a Sprinters delight since they moved it further along the "Flat" roads.
    Organiser, National Championship 50 mile Time Trial 1972
  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,031
    See how it goes, too often in recent years the race hasn't really taken off (for the spectator) until the Poggio and whilst it normally guarantees a thrilling finale it never quite reaches the heights most classics at their best can.
    [Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    deejay wrote:
    FJS wrote:
    Would have been better to bring the finish back to the Via Roma and leave the rest alone
    I agree.
    It has become a Sprinters delight since they moved it further along the "Flat" roads.

    Hardly a sprinters' delight. Can remember only one bunch sprint in the past 5 years.
    _
  • mike6
    mike6 Posts: 1,199
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    deejay wrote:
    FJS wrote:
    Would have been better to bring the finish back to the Via Roma and leave the rest alone
    I agree.
    It has become a Sprinters delight since they moved it further along the "Flat" roads.

    Hardly a sprinters' delight. Can remember only one bunch sprint in the past 5 years.

    Exactly. There is nowt wrong with the route.
  • greasedscotsman
    greasedscotsman Posts: 6,962
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    deejay wrote:
    FJS wrote:
    Would have been better to bring the finish back to the Via Roma and leave the rest alone
    I agree.
    It has become a Sprinters delight since they moved it further along the "Flat" roads.

    Hardly a sprinters' delight. Can remember only one bunch sprint in the past 5 years.

    Alot of sprinters have still won though. 4 out of the last 5.
  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    greasedscotsman wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    deejay wrote:
    FJS wrote:
    Would have been better to bring the finish back to the Via Roma and leave the rest alone
    I agree.
    It has become a Sprinters delight since they moved it further along the "Flat" roads.

    Hardly a sprinters' delight. Can remember only one bunch sprint in the past 5 years.

    Alot of sprinters have still won though. 4 out of the last 5.


    Gerrans a sprinter...does not compute...
  • greasedscotsman
    greasedscotsman Posts: 6,962
    Richmond Racer wrote:
    Gerrans a sprinter...does not compute...

    OK, I would say that Cavendish, Friere, Goss and Ciolek are sprinters.
  • mike6
    mike6 Posts: 1,199
    Always the same story, "Cant have sprinters winning a one day race, change the route" Why? It is not a pan flat route, so If a sprinter can tough it out over the lumpy bits and win without a lead out, why not?

    When was the last time someone called for a route to be changed because hard men or climbers were winning it 4 times out of 5? :wink:

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