Are ALL Range Rover (Sport/Vogue) drivers disabled?

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  • mr_goo
    mr_goo Posts: 3,770
    Jeez!

    I only asked a simple question. Didn't accuse everyone owning a 4x4. Just outlined an observation I had made. Some drivers of the outlined marques have an above average bad attitude and etiquette towards other road users.

    Now I've instigated a forum invasion from non cyclists. Probably the very people observed as being tw4ts on the road. They in turn have gone on a rant on their own 'Full Fat Range Rover' forum. The title of the forum speaks volumes to me .

    Interestingly a German colleague of mine has an amusing metaphor for male drivers of Porsches - 'A man that walks around with his flies open'. - Cue Porsche owners.
    Do certain vehicle marques bring out certain traits in some of their owners? - Possibly/Probably.

    Apologies to fellow cyclists. I shall deliberate my OPs more carefully in future.

    Yours
    Mr Goo (now looking out front window to see if a blacked out RR Sport is waiting outside to lynch me)
    Always be yourself, unless you can be Aaron Rodgers....Then always be Aaron Rodgers.
  • ai_1
    ai_1 Posts: 3,060
    Mr Goo wrote:
    ....Do certain vehicle marques bring out certain traits in some of their owners? - Possibly/Probably......
    Nope. As per my post near the start of the thread, it's not about the car. It's about the money/power/prestige that some those able to buy this type of car either have or think they have and how that modifies their attitudes and behaviour.
    It's a pity that a lot of the responses from cyclists in this thread have been as prejudiced and unfair as the sorts of comments that get thrown at cyclists by the more ignorant variety of motorists. However as mentioned earlier there IS statistical evidence to support the view that "prestige" car drivers have higher instances of ignorant/selfish road use.
  • Philly8mt
    Philly8mt Posts: 552
    Won't have a word said against The Discovery (once owned one) and not all Audi drivers are cnuts (had a TT for while) ... But ... Funnily enough I followed a Range Rover Sport yesterday and it was bobbing and weaving more than ya average boxer! Turns out it was being driven by an orange looking lady with a dog sat on her knee!?!?!?
    Still thinking of something clever to say!
  • mr_goo
    mr_goo Posts: 3,770
    Would you credit it.
    Driving into Southampton yesterday morning A33 dual carriageway which has 50 mph limit and cameras to enforce. I am in outside lane at 50mph over taking. White Evoque right up my arse. He ducks to inside lane, undertakes then pulls out in front of me. Not before giving me a filthy look for daring to be in his way.

    I think my observations are vindicated.
    Always be yourself, unless you can be Aaron Rodgers....Then always be Aaron Rodgers.
  • ai_1
    ai_1 Posts: 3,060
    Mr Goo wrote:
    Would you credit it.
    Driving into Southampton yesterday morning A33 dual carriageway which has 50 mph limit and cameras to enforce. I am in outside lane at 50mph over taking. White Evoque right up my ars*. He ducks to inside lane, undertakes then pulls out in front of me. Not before giving me a filthy look for daring to be in his way.

    I think my observations are vindicated.
    Out of curiosity. If you were overtaking, how did he undertake you?
    If there was room and time for him to go inside you then you really should have moved over. Doesn't matter what speed you're going, lane discipline and etiquette should be observed. No, I'm not a RR driver, cheap Honda for me. Unless this guy squeezed through a dangerously small gap between you and the guy you were about to overtake.... I would quite possibly have done the same. If you can move over without slowing down, you should.
  • Monkeypump
    Monkeypump Posts: 1,528
    Mr Goo wrote:
    Would you credit it.
    Driving into Southampton yesterday morning A33 dual carriageway which has 50 mph limit and cameras to enforce. I am in outside lane at 50mph over taking. White Evoque right up my ars*. He ducks to inside lane, undertakes then pulls out in front of me. Not before giving me a filthy look for daring to be in his way.

    I think my observations are vindicated.

    I've driven about 600 miles since last Friday, on mixed roads/motorways. Saw lots of drivers behaving like complete twits. Some of them were driving 4x4s, some (the majority) not, so your sample of n=1 means nothing other than supporting your preformed opinions.

    And, as mentioned above, sounds like your lane discipline needs some work :wink:
  • jawooga
    jawooga Posts: 530
    My cycle home from work involves a mixture of road, cycle path by road, dirt track and canal path far from road. I am respectful, acknowledge drivers, pull over when safe to do so on long steep climbs to let cars by and often get beeps and waves from motorists - very often white van drivers.

    However, today i was on a half mile stretch of road. There is a cycle path, but it is not fit for purpose, because it is littered with gates, pedestrians and you have to cross the road half way along. So I was on this road, and held up 3 cars who had to wait because they couldn't see around the bends. The third (4b4) car slowed down along side me, passenger window down, and 40 year old new money chav woman aggressively shouts "oi... You should be on the cycle path - that's what they're for!". I didn't have time to point out that they should be 'off road' themselves, so just told her to fvck off and waved my fingers. I followed them until they turned in to a caravan park, which just about said it all.

    The point of my long winded story, is that they were in a 4b4. They reciprocate with the finger gestures by the way - i wasn't just abusing craggy posh people. It amazes me how self opinionated some people are, and i can only think it is the safety and superiority a big car gives them.
  • VTech
    VTech Posts: 4,736
    Today I drive home in a Ferrari 458 and a guy in a mini drive past and gave me the w@nker sign from his side window.

    I always had a thought that there was something wrong with mini drivers.
    Living MY dream.
  • morstar
    morstar Posts: 6,190
    VTech wrote:
    Today I drive home in a Ferrari 458 and a guy in a mini drive past and gave me the w@nker sign from his side window.

    I always had a thought that there was something wrong with mini drivers.
    If they own an iPhone, there probably is. These two accessories combined provide the belief that they're the coolest kids in class.
  • tigerben
    tigerben Posts: 233
    morstar wrote:
    VTech wrote:
    Today I drive home in a Ferrari 458 and a guy in a mini drive past and gave me the w@nker sign from his side window.

    I always had a thought that there was something wrong with mini drivers.

    I dislike range rover drivers - esp evoque- as much as the next man however most dangerous drivers imho are mini drivers. Who in my experience all appear to be too preoccupied in everything else going on to actually look at the road and fellow road users. Mini at junction ahead and chances are they will pull out in front of me.
  • mr_goo
    mr_goo Posts: 3,770
    VTech wrote:
    Today I drive home in a Ferrari 458 and a guy in a mini drive past and gave me the w@nker sign from his side window.

    I always had a thought that there was something wrong with mini drivers.

    As you would say...cough!, cough!

    Mrs MrGoo has a mini convertible. I am occasionally given leave to drive it, mostly to the petrol station to fill up. Its a great little car to drive, however I have always thought of them as cars for female drivers. God help me now, I just started another pigeon holing thread.

    Getting back to my encounter with the Evoque in Southampton. I was actually overtaking a row of slower moving traffic and the dick in the RR dived into an inside gap, foot down and then swerved out infront of me, just to gain next space up.

    Vtech. You certainly get to drive some nice motors.
    Always be yourself, unless you can be Aaron Rodgers....Then always be Aaron Rodgers.
  • the playing mantis
    the playing mantis Posts: 2,129
    yep, minis, nissan micras, fiat 500's, audi tt's all get the women car label in my circles.
  • CambsNewbie
    CambsNewbie Posts: 564
    VTech wrote:
    Today I drive home in a Ferrari 458 and a guy in a mini drive past and gave me the w@nker sign from his side window.

    I always had a thought that there was something wrong with mini drivers.

    Maybe it was nothing to do with the car you were in, and he just knew you! :D
  • VTech
    VTech Posts: 4,736
    CambsNewbie wrote:
    VTech wrote:
    Today I drive home in a Ferrari 458 and a guy in a mini drive past and gave me the w@nker sign from his side window.

    I always had a thought that there was something wrong with mini drivers.

    Maybe it was nothing to do with the car you were in, and he just knew you! :D

    I had thought that but then quickly realised that if he had known me he would probably have drivers me off the road and carried on :)
    Living MY dream.
  • jonomc4
    jonomc4 Posts: 891
    never once had a problem with a 4 x 4 - in fact commuting on my bike in London I find them one of the best - the ones I have the problem with is people in cheap cars - they have to go faster and drive more aggressively to make up for the feeling of inferiority they have from driving a cheap pile of sh1t.

    But then again I think it is better to have a go at 4x4 drivers as they are usually better off - and wealth envy is always a good thing and you will get an army of other poor people to agree with you :)
  • VTech
    VTech Posts: 4,736
    jonomc4 wrote:
    never once had a problem with a 4 x 4 - in fact commuting on my bike in London I find them one of the best - the ones I have the problem with is people in cheap cars - they have to go faster and drive more aggressively to make up for the feeling of inferiority they have from driving a cheap pile of sh1t.

    But then again I think it is better to have a go at 4x4 drivers as they are usually better off - and wealth envy is always a good thing and you will get an army of other poor people to agree with you :)

    Thats a great reply, the reality in the most is probably that the drivers of these types of cars (newer mainly) are simply closer to bankruptcy so are not always in the best mood to start with.

    The only major difference between the poor and rich is that the poor know they cant afford things and so dont bother buying them !
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  • the playing mantis
    the playing mantis Posts: 2,129
    jonomc4 wrote:
    never once had a problem with a 4 x 4 - in fact commuting on my bike in London I find them one of the best - the ones I have the problem with is people in cheap cars - they have to go faster and drive more aggressively to make up for the feeling of inferiority they have from driving a cheap pile of sh1t.

    But then again I think it is better to have a go at 4x4 drivers as they are usually better off - and wealth envy is always a good thing and you will get an army of other poor people to agree with you :)

    i think this a deeply unfair post. you have no idea of the means of those commenting against certain types of 4x4s.to label it as envy. luckily for me (at the moment) if i wanted i could have one, but i dont. theres no envy here. i think thats an easy answer, oh its wealthy envy. likewise saying about cheap cars is unfair. some drive fast, but many dont, in my experience the opposite.

    when someone takes an age at the front of the traffic light queue when they turn turn green, it is often a 'cheap' or old car there, imo, and i find such cars often creep about, but this is because usually as the drivers are often old, or dont drive frequently (hence no need for anythign but a cheap car) and unfortunately i must conquer with clarkson when it comes to peugeots.
  • mr_goo
    mr_goo Posts: 3,770
    The headline of my OP was more about getting attention than actually accusing all and sundry of the said marque. Yes there are bad drivers everywhere. But I wanted to highlight the fact that I have observed a higher percentage of RR drivers than other makes for the abuse of parking facilities and the disregard for driving safety/speed limits and road etiquette.
    I repeat it is not about envy of wealth.
    Always be yourself, unless you can be Aaron Rodgers....Then always be Aaron Rodgers.
  • feltkuota
    feltkuota Posts: 333
    the playing mantis wrote:
    jonomc4 wrote:
    never once had a problem with a 4 x 4 - in fact commuting on my bike in London I find them one of the best - the ones I have the problem with is people in cheap cars - they have to go faster and drive more aggressively to make up for the feeling of inferiority they have from driving a cheap pile of sh1t.

    But then again I think it is better to have a go at 4x4 drivers as they are usually better off - and wealth envy is always a good thing and you will get an army of other poor people to agree with you :)

    i think this a deeply unfair post. you have no idea of the means of those commenting against certain types of 4x4s.to label it as envy. luckily for me (at the moment) if i wanted i could have one, but i dont. theres no envy here. i think thats an easy answer, oh its wealthy envy. likewise saying about cheap cars is unfair. some drive fast, but many dont, in my experience the opposite.

    when someone takes an age at the front of the traffic light queue when they turn turn green, it is often a 'cheap' or old car there, imo, and i find such cars often creep about, but this is because usually as the drivers are often old, or dont drive frequently (hence no need for anythign but a cheap car) and unfortunately i must conquer with clarkson when it comes to peugeots.


    So, what you're saying is Jono's generalisations are more unfair than the OP's generalisations?
  • the playing mantis
    the playing mantis Posts: 2,129
    ops are far more specific!

    specific generalistaions are better than wide ranging ones.

    thats my daft opinion anyway!
  • feltkuota
    feltkuota Posts: 333
    the playing mantis wrote:
    ops are far more specific!

    specific generalistaions are better than wide ranging ones.

    thats my daft opinion anyway!


    Always good to have an opinion and sometimes it's even good to voice it. :)
  • mr_goo
    mr_goo Posts: 3,770
    Range Rover. The choice of the discerning....

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    ..... Irish Pikey.

    Sorry I meant Ethnic Southern Irish Traveller.
    Always be yourself, unless you can be Aaron Rodgers....Then always be Aaron Rodgers.
  • the playing mantis
    the playing mantis Posts: 2,129
    Mr Goo wrote:
    Range Rover. The choice of the discerning....

    2243259.jpg?type=articleLandscape

    ..... Irish Pikey.

    Sorry I meant Ethnic Southern Irish Traveller.

    what i dont get is where there get all the money from for plush caravans and top end cars. tarmaccing drives isnt that lucrative is it?
  • Philly8mt
    Philly8mt Posts: 552
    But don't they Tarmac in a very tax efficient way? :o
    Still thinking of something clever to say!
  • VTech
    VTech Posts: 4,736
    Well over Half a mil in that pic.
    Life is so good when you dont have to pay out.
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  • CambsNewbie
    CambsNewbie Posts: 564
    the playing mantis wrote:
    Mr Goo wrote:
    Range Rover. The choice of the discerning....

    2243259.jpg?type=articleLandscape

    ..... Irish Pikey.

    Sorry I meant Ethnic Southern Irish Traveller.

    what i dont get is where there get all the money from for plush caravans and top end cars. tarmaccing drives isnt that lucrative is it?

    This comment is either tongue in cheek or your innocence is touching in this day and age!
  • crumbschief
    crumbschief Posts: 3,399
    D'ya like dags?
  • ballysmate
    ballysmate Posts: 15,930
    the playing mantis wrote:
    Mr Goo wrote:
    Range Rover. The choice of the discerning....

    2243259.jpg?type=articleLandscape

    ..... Irish Pikey.

    Sorry I meant Ethnic Southern Irish Traveller.

    what i dont get is where there get all the money from for plush caravans and top end cars. tarmaccing drives isnt that lucrative is it?

    Don't discount the 'Lucky Heather' trade that must be quite lucrative. :lol:
    Top o' th' mornin' t' ya! (Perhaps my gypsy comes from Yorkshite, I can't affect an accent, never mind write in one.)


    The above contains a genuine typo, which I was going to correct. Then I thought, no, I think I will leave it.
  • thegreatdivide
    thegreatdivide Posts: 5,807
    My dad was driving my now deceased and legitimate badge holding grandfather to the supermarket a while back. The disabled space was taken up by a non badge holding tw4t so they had to park somewhere else. Said tw4t appeared at his car as they walked to the shop door and when my dad confronted him about not being a badge holder he was told...and I'm not making this up...'I was in the fuxking Falklands and was shot in the back!' to which my quick witted father replied 'were you running away at the time?'. The man is a comedy genius!
  • VTech
    VTech Posts: 4,736
    thegreatdivide wrote:
    My dad was driving my now deceased and legitimate badge holding grandfather to the supermarket a while back. The disabled space was taken up by a non badge holding tw4t so they had to park somewhere else. Said tw4t appeared at his car as they walked to the shop door and when my dad confronted him about not being a badge holder he was told...and I'm not making this up...'I was in the fuxking Falklands and was shot in the back!' to which my quick witted father replied 'were you running away at the time?'. The man is a comedy genius!



    I would have like to have met your grandfather, ive had so many good times listening to these types, always makes me chuckle :)
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