Are ALL Range Rover (Sport/Vogue) drivers disabled?

mr_goo

A very pertinent question in my opinion. It seems that where ever there are parking spaces set aside for disabled drivers, be it supermarkets, shopping centres, pubs etc etc. The designated spaces are invariably occupied by a Range Rover Sport or Vogue.

What is it about the mentality of the drivers of these vehicles? They believe the outside lane of the motorway is reserved for them. I have never seen one on the inside or middle lane.

Queuing in traffic is totally alien to them. They believe that they can bully their way to the front by driving down the outside of queues and then cutting in.

They believe that the drop off points at supermarkets and train stations are specially designated Range Rover parking spaces.

Theirs is the 'right' to park at the nearest point to any entrance of a building.

Only last night in Beaulieu at the Montagu Arms. A 8l00dy great white Vogue parked dangerously in an area not even capable of hosting a car. But it was near the entrance so the fat, shaven headed, thug looking driver (normal physical attribute for said vehicle) decides to park with ar5e of car hanging out into lane of road.

Today, queuing to exit M27 into the New Forest. Only took couple of minutes. But obviously two minutes was vital to the w4nk3r in the black vogue who weaved in and out of the traffic to gain half a dozen places.

In conclusion I hate Range Rover Sport and Vogue drivers for their complete and utter superiority complex that they have over other road users.

the playing mantis

not wanting to tar everyone with the same brush, but these are generally bought by orange people. they have come into money, or at least there families have, be it through selling used cars or scrap metal, and although they may have money now they have zero class with it, and are basically moneied chavs with no morals, sense of right and wrong etc. they are generally ignorant, and stupid, especially the offspring, but somewhere along the line one of them has used there wiles to make a lot of money, both above and below board.

the sort of people you see on towie, that make people think essex is full of morons.

as clarkson says these cars never go offroad and are bought by those i mention, and footballers.

they crop up all over the place unfortuantely.

Monkeypump

And cyclists have got the cheek to say motorists have a blinkered view of us??

It's been a while since I've read such a complete load of biased, prejudiced tosh!

markhewitt1978

Of course these will be a choice of disabled drivers because they are easy to get in and out of.

the playing mantis

Monkeypump wrote:

And cyclists have got the cheek to say motorists have a blinkered view of us??

It's been a while since I've read such a complete load of biased, prejudiced tosh!

as i said no wishing to tar everyone with the same brush. and that the opinion of someone whose family have had landies and rangies for years because they are actually needed, rather than as a chavvy status symbol, which is pretty much what the sport is.

lostboysaint

Monkeypump wrote:

And cyclists have got the cheek to say motorists have a blinkered view of us??

It's been a while since I've read such a complete load of biased, prejudiced tosh!

You're an RR Sport driver aren't you

edhornby

they get right on my tts as well - I had a week driving one on a holiday, I was unimpressed as it didn't feel fast, there wasn't a lot more load capability, kinda similar to a mondeo hatch and the comfort levels were no better than say a mondeo ghia.

I noticed that it'd easy to use the height of the car as an excuse to tailgate - I can see fine therefore I will sit on your bumper

the playing mantis

lostboysaint wrote:

Monkeypump wrote:

And cyclists have got the cheek to say motorists have a blinkered view of us??

It's been a while since I've read such a complete load of biased, prejudiced tosh!

You're an RR Sport driver aren't you

of course he is, and he may or maynot be bright orange. and never take it offroad.

we all make mistakes, like when homer simpson bought some 4wd suv, and it turned out it was the ladies model.

ai_1

There is in fact very real evidence to support this phenomenon. However, I think it's somewhat simplistic if not prejudiced to say it's a symptom of the newly wealthy or connect it to the intelligence or "class" of the driver.

As I said there is real data to support the original posters observation and it's not just a popular myth that drivers of large cars tend to behave worse than others. Unfortunately, I don't have any references to hand but I'm sure you'll be able to find them if you have a look.
There have been a number of studies carried out, mostly in the US, around what demographics have the strongest propensities for different types of social behaviour. These are not aimed specifically at road use but one study I've come across was based on data collected on traffic violations and checked for statistically significant correlation with car type. There was a very significant slant towards very expensive and prestigious cars when it came to the sort of activities you're talking about where people clearly decide the rules don't apply to them.
There is apparently a pretty well documented tendency for people to feel less constrained by social and legal rules the more successful they are. Especially for those who trade in large amounts of money or supervise large numbers of people. It's understandable to some extent but not excusable.

However it's not about the car they're driving. It's about how they feel they fit into society because of their "success" and these are typically the same people likely to drive the type of cars you're talking about.

the playing mantis

edhornby wrote:

they get right on my tts as well - I had a week driving one on a holiday, I was unimpressed as it didn't feel fast, there wasn't a lot more load capability, kinda similar to a mondeo hatch and the comfort levels were no better than say a mondeo ghia.

I noticed that it'd easy to use the height of the car as an excuse to tailgate - I can see fine therefore I will sit on your bumper

exactly, anyone who needs an rr, wouldnt buy the sport, as its not as good or practical as the normal model.

the only reasons to buy it, are a, if you didnt realise the above, b, you dont care about the shortcomings and have more money than sense, and thus dont mind being mistaken for a chav in it, c, you want to be mistaken for a chav/footballer/or are one, and will likely get kahn to shrink wrap it in lime green plastic, d, you are orange.

estampida

so they are mentally disabled but normally bodied in my opinion

I have owned a 4x4 - a Siii land rover (ex BT) and had to put up with all these w*nkers when I drove it

the worst part is that the best versions of these cars are typically diesel (most drivable) just ask my cousin with his diesel x5 (probably the only one ever sold in the uk)

they should ban V8 petrol 4x4's as they are no use off road and very little use on it.......

and that guy who was bumped off his bike by twitter bird, when interviewed by the BBC said the biggest danger on the road were women in their 40's in white range rovers (pick whatever model you want, as long as its the V8 petrol version)

AchillesLeftKnee

Monkeypump wrote:

And cyclists have got the cheek to say motorists have a blinkered view of us?

Well, yeah, but where would special interest forums be without wheelbarrowloads of hypocrisy.

Disclaimer : I do not own, never have owned, and almost certainly never will own, a 4x4 with off-road capability.

solosuperia

I don't know if you saw Top Gear the other night................
One of the Herberts was driving the latest Range Rover Sport
Cost:- The price of a small semi detached house.
It had "Sonar"...... I thought bloody unbelievable.
If you drove through water, displayed on the lazer display screen was the outline of the car, a red line indicating the maximum height you should let the water level get too and the actual water level.
If I had oodles of money I would buy that car just because of that!
Where is Solo Superia.....Oh he is probably driving down the river!!!!!!
Honestly when would you use it?
Never, well I guess just to demo it to anybody who showed the remotest interest.
A mate of mine has a VW with the "hands-off" automatic parking thing..........Only time he uses it, is to show it to people!

drlodge

AchillesLeftKnee wrote:

Disclaimer : I do not own, never have owned, and almost certainly never will own, a 4x4 with off-road capability.

I own a Lexus RX300, so me neither :shock: It is 11.5 years old mind but still looks sweet.

dee4life2005

My grandfather is a legitimate blue badge holder and was unable to get his shopping one day as the only disabled parking space was taken up by a BMW 7-series, which incidentally was also partially into the bay beside it as well. There were other spaces further away, but he can't walk a great distance so had to come back another time. I would have waited and had words with the inconsiderate a-hole if I'd have been with him.

However, have you seen the size of the spaces in car parks these days? With a car the size of a Range Rover you'd be hard pushed to get in/out of your car without bashing your door into the one beside you - that's provided you managed to squeeze into the space in the first place. They seem to make spaces to fit cars the size of a mini from the 70's - trying to cram too many into the available space. I struggle with some car parks in my Ford Focus, I hate to think about negotiating them in a Range Rover.

So perhaps they were parking in the disabled bay to be considerate to other motorists .... doesn't make it right, just thinking of a possible explanation. But, it's more likely they are just fat and / or lazy.

Monkeypump

the playing mantis wrote:

lostboysaint wrote:

Monkeypump wrote:

And cyclists have got the cheek to say motorists have a blinkered view of us??

It's been a while since I've read such a complete load of biased, prejudiced tosh!

You're an RR Sport driver aren't you

of course he is, and he may or maynot be bright orange. and never take it offroad.

we all make mistakes, like when homer simpson bought some 4wd suv, and it turned out it was the ladies model.

Ha, sorry - not an RRS driver. It's so difficult to find the right shade to go with my (orange) tan, and they're so difficult to drive in (white) high heels...

47p2

I'm a Range Rover owner and driver. I never spent all that money to sit in the inside or middle lane of the motorway, Range Rovers automatically steer to the right for the sole purpose of hogging the outside lane. Nor do they pay £100k to sit in a queue of traffic, queues are for lesser mortals in Fords, Vauxhalls, Hondas, Nissans etc. :shock:

As for parking, didn't you know the disabled and children bays are much wider, so therefore less chance of the plebs opening doors and bashing our £100k vehicles.

Maybe the OP should make friends with a Range Rover owner and experience something new, but only from the passenger seat as you have to be a really top notch driver before you're allowed to actually drive one.

dynamicbrick

Range Rovers are not Range Rover Sports - there's a very clear distinction. Normal Rangies tend to be more civilised than the oiks in the Sports.

Either way, proper old money doesn't drive a Rangie unless it's at least 20 years old. Once a month I have to suffer the landed gentry at the local Polo club. There's usually no more than one or two in the car park - mostly it's a selection of battered old Subaru Legacys and Mk4 Golfs. In fact, with my ten year old grey Volvo V70 I tend to feel a bit crass.

For what its worth, I do own a 4WD - the V70 is the R version. Utterly hopeless off road though.

estampida

so after my response I had a wee think

viewtopic.php?f=40012&t=12861661&p=17693764&hilit=range+rover#p17693764

my post says it all

crispybug2

May I refer you to my all time favourite website...http://youparklikeacunt.com/

It full of almost endless examples of Range Rover Sport/Vogue drivers parking like total c***s!!!

VTech

I cant believe any of you can say these things, this is my daily drive to the office and im a model citizen.

mr_goo

Ebola Bob. That looks a bit like a Discovery MK 6/7/8 or whatever version they are on now.
Discovery drivers tend not to drive like the Sport and Vogue twunt5.
Discovery drivers occasionally use their vehicles off road for work eg farmers and construction.
Unlike their higher valued big brothers of the Sport or Vogue ilk who in the morning depart from their block paved driveways, passing through the electronic gates with lions or doberman statues on the pillars. Then plough through the traffic observing the Range Rover Highway Code. Then park up in a reserved parking space outside a mirrored glass non descript office on an out of town business park in Farnborough, Woking or Bracknell.

VTech

Mr Goo wrote:

Ebola Bob. That looks a bit like a Discovery MK 6/7/8 or whatever version they are on now.
Discovery drivers tend not to drive like the Sport and Vogue twunt5.
Discovery drivers occasionally use their vehicles off road for work eg farmers and construction.
Unlike their higher valued big brothers of the Sport or Vogue ilk who in the morning depart from their block paved driveways, passing through the electronic gates with lions or doberman statues on the pillars. Then plough through the traffic observing the Range Rover Highway Code. Then park up in a reserved parking space outside a mirrored glass non descript office on an out of town business park in Farnborough, Woking or Bracknell.

cough cough, you got that the wrong way round
I wish I could have got this for the same cost as a sport

mr_goo

VTech. That's the Discovery 4 with the Fortnum and Masons picnic basket and a pair of Purdey Duelling Pistols in the boot. Must be great for bombing down the outside lane of the M4, you can shoot the back tyres out of anyone in your way. LOL.

Katash

Speaking as someone who owns a Range Rover (although not the sport model) I'd just like to say we do not all fit into the negative stereotype described by the OP.

I park far away from entrances where possible to avoid people with no respect for value or property - if I carry an elderly disabled relative as a passenger they are dropped at the door then I go find a suitable space.

I do go offroad even tho my particular powertrain is the petrol V8, the person who claims petrol V8's are no good offroad could probably be surprised if ever they got the opportunity to experience it.

I never 'bully my way through' traffic - quite the opposite really, as I actually enjoy driving I'm never in a rush to get anywhere I regularly stop to let people out at junctions, waive through oncoming traffic etc ... I'm quite content locking the cruise control at 70 on motorways and following the natural flow of traffic.

I use my vehicle to help others when bad weather (snow & floods) means they are otherwise stranded, infact a lot of 4x4 owners where I live do the same - escorting medical staff, care workers and rescue teams to remote inaccessible areas when the weather gets tough - this rarely gets publicized in the press.

I'm not orange, live in Essex, or fortunate to have inherited wealth - I work shifts for a living, and I do a lot of overtime.

I live in an area that has a high percentage of 4x4's and especially Range Rovers - a lot of them are 'RR Sports' and I can honestly say whenever I see displays of poor driving / parking its usually from a wide range of vehicle types, no one specific brand is at fault although I can see how certain vehicles can become figureheads for opinions, perhaps for deeper underlying reasons.

When people make sweeping generalizations about a particular group of other people (BMW/Audi/Volvo/white van drivers .... cyclists etc...) it makes them look a bit daft really, and a little bit sad - I would have expected members of a cycling forum to have experienced being on the sharp end of the 'your all w**kers!' argument and be less likely to fall into the same behavior.

Obviously everyone is entitled to their opinion and if the OP and supporters feel we all (RR drivers) behave in the same negative way then there is nothing stopping them from expressing that view - conversely its equally valid for someone to challenge that opinion, hence my 'other side of the story' post.



Life is too short - go and enjoy whatever it is that makes you happy.

team47b

Katash wrote:

Life is too short - go and enjoy whatever it is that makes you happy.

They are.

Welcome Katash

fast as fupp

these type of cars, theyre for middle aged men with tiny penises, no?

VTech

fast as fupp wrote:

these type of cars, theyre for middle aged men with tiny penises, no?

And there was me thinking it made the third leg grow !
Silly me, now I know the cause of that shrinkage

Yellow Peril

It's all about road domination and perceived security, you make yourself safer by squeezing everyone else off the road. I have it on good authority that cyclists who own these vehicles all ride at least 66cm frames.

I think these and cars like them are completely w@nk unless you are a farmer or live in the outback

CambsNewbie

VTech wrote:

I cant believe any of you can say these things, this is my daily drive to the office and im a model citizen.

VTech, I see you have the Overfinch version of the Disco! The HSE version too common for you!

VTech

Truth is, I got this at an ABSOLUTE bargain, it was Lee Westwood's car (golfer) and he moved to the states shortly after getting given it by Land Rover and so we bought it at a fairly reduced price at 3 months old.
I would never buy one of these new, in fact I would rarely buy any new car. Total waste of money.