Bl00dy horses

ddraver

Ah, the "no you are" argument...

mamba80

ddraver - You say that horse riders expect others to bow down to their needs? so what?
dont you expect the same when your out on a bike? slowing a succession of cars down!

Horses tend to be ridden on lanes and in 1s and 2s, they usually stop when a car comes along and if you (as a cyclist) talk to the rider, try saying "hello" then the horse will be fine.

oh and horses dont give the wxnkxr signal to every motorist that in their opinion has offended them!

and no i dont ride a horse or ever had, its just live an let live thats all, each to their own.

ddraver

If a car comes up behind me on a narrow lane, then I ll pull in at the earliest passing point and slow down to let it past, if there's space then I won't. I won't stop for it or slow down (much) so actually they only have to drop from 30 odd to 20 odd. That is two individuals using the same bit of road and being aware and sympathetic of each others needs. Don't see why that's a problem.

It is not aware and sympathetic if I expected them to stop and wait for me or if I had to stop and wait for the car/horse/circus parade...

secretsam

Mr Goo wrote:

Possibly one of the most moronic and selfish original posts I have ever read on here. There does seem to be an undercurrent of road cyclists on here that have a superiority complex when it comes to road use.

Well, at least I'm good at something. I think "Moronic" is a bit strong, though, and not a little offensive.

Plus, I was joking. Oh well.

daviesee

SecretSam wrote:

Mr Goo wrote:

Possibly one of the most moronic and selfish original posts I have ever read on here. There does seem to be an undercurrent of road cyclists on here that have a superiority complex when it comes to road use.

Well, at least I'm good at something. I think "Moronic" is a bit strong, though, and not a little offensive.

Plus, I was joking. Oh well.

Maybe you were. Ddraver seems to have the bit between his teeth though.

secretsam

daviesee wrote:

SecretSam wrote:

Mr Goo wrote:

Possibly one of the most moronic and selfish original posts I have ever read on here. There does seem to be an undercurrent of road cyclists on here that have a superiority complex when it comes to road use.

Well, at least I'm good at something. I think "Moronic" is a bit strong, though, and not a little offensive.

Plus, I was joking. Oh well.

Maybe you were. Ddraver seems to have the bit between his teeth though.

As there are so many animal lovers crawling out of the woodwork on here, perhaps they'd like to also comment on the thread about cats, which currently includes posts about extermination of them as vermin, etc etc.

And perhaps this would give the posters who've attacked me (not my post) another chance to vent their respective spleens. I believe it's called Anger Management?

RideOnTime

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mURhNIjc-Kw

Ronnie Corbett is on the Bike
Ronnie Barker in the Car
John Cleese on the Horse

We're still only just crawling out of the 19th class system.

ddraver

I like that...

Pross

Ah, so we are saying that travellers are upper class and people look up to them (we know our place)

Ouija

RideOnTime wrote:

We're still only just crawling out of the 19th class system.

So there were 18 class systems before it? You'd think we would of perfected it by now.

Baby Trek

Unfortunately we can all be a little intolerant to each others interests and passions. However, I have come accross good and ignorant cyclists and horse riders in my time. We dont seem to understand each others needs and therefore think the other is in the wrong!
I am both...horse rider and cyclist, so can see it from both sides and try to be patient with both.

morstar

Just for the record. My involvement had nothing to do with being an animal lover. I was purely coming from a freedom of choice position.

Also, for the record, I may or may not be an animal lover but I think this whole thread is about human behaviour rather than other animals.

secretsam

Baby Trek wrote:

Unfortunately we can all be a little intolerant to each others interests and passions. However, I have come accross good and ignorant cyclists and horse riders in my time. We dont seem to understand each others needs and therefore think the other is in the wrong!
I am both...horse rider and cyclist, so can see it from both sides and try to be patient with both.

Crumbs, your ar53 must be sore all the time...

Guanajuato

Don't have a problem with horses at all. I'm wary of them on the bike and in the car and slow to give them plenty of room. If approaching from behind, I'll always give a warning.
A small minority of horsey people are complete tosspots of course. Just like a small minority of cyclists, car drivers or any other group you feel like labelling are complete tosspots. There's one that I have regular problems with. 4x4 plastered in 'I slow for horses' and other horsey stickers. Yet he will often try and overtake where the road is barely wider than his 4x4. Mind you, I don't think he's the person that actually rides, as judging by his size, unless he has a Clydesdale, I think it would be classed as animal cruelty. I've asked him if he'd drive like that around a horse. The response would be a stream of ** on here. :-/
Interesting experience a couple of weeks back. A car came up behind me on a narrow lane, and squeezed by at a fair speed. 100 yards down the road, the road widened and there were two horses with riders. The car stopped. For them. Why couldn't the bint in the car give me the same respect?

RideOnTime

SecretSam wrote:

Baby Trek wrote:

Unfortunately we can all be a little intolerant to each others interests and passions. However, I have come accross good and ignorant cyclists and horse riders in my time. We dont seem to understand each others needs and therefore think the other is in the wrong!
I am both...horse rider and cyclist, so can see it from both sides and try to be patient with both.

Crumbs, your ar53 must be sore all the time...

Try getting off your bike and doing a massive dump right in the middle of the road.

Kieran_Burns

I think the conversation is drifting off the original point somewhat, so to drag it back:

rodgers73

Good work there. More of this please!

sungod

i think it'd a be a good idea to unify this thread with the cat one

in this spirit, i propose the solution to both problems: grind up all the horses to make cat food

the cats will scoff the lot and then have no appetite for the various creatures that the others are so riled up about

happy cats and no more horses, win win

interweb advisory: this post may contain less than 100% of serious

Druidor

West Berks area and Labourn area so loads of horses around here, its not them being on the roads its the presents they leave behind that can be an issue.

the playing mantis

why did this thread die

ballysmate

Didn't die. Just did a 'Devon Loch'

the playing mantis

i could have used at as a vehicle for exercising my mixed emotions about nags and their riders! some good bikeradar therapy. damn.

peat

Druidor wrote:

West Berks area and Labourn area so loads of horses around here....

Same. Comes with the territory.

I ride alot of MTB too so come into contact (not literally) with them regularly. I will always slow and give room, my sister fell off a 'spooked' horse when she was 12 and broke her back, so i know how unpredictable they can be.

Actually, that's why i loathe them. It's one thing doing something dangerous that you are in control (or not of in the case of many cyclists), but with horses there is always the risk that the stupid beast will get terrified by a hedge or a breeze and throw you to the dirt.

Also, the damage they do to byway's and bridleways (i know, i know). They are such an antisocial pursuit. They tear up tracks, making them boggy when its wet and make them dangerously uneven when they dry, for bikes and walkers. Then the cherry on the cake is the big pile of sh!t they leave on top. As a group, they are far more sanctimonious than cyclists.

You do have exceptions though. I came across a horsey the other weekend, forcing me to stop quite abruptly, which was ridden by a very friendly/chatty young lady who had very few clothes on. I literally couldn't think of sensical things to say such was my suprise/gawping. Ummmmm.

extrusion

this thread needs more pictures ...

the playing mantis

extrusion wrote:

this thread needs more pictures ...

do i help or not? will karma come and bite me on the ar*e if i do, decisions decisions!

jonomc4

I find this thread really depressing - I am an ardent cyclist. But I find some peoples opinions about "bl00dy horses" horrifying. It is no different to car drivers saying bl00dy cyclists. Horses have as much right to be on the roads from a cyclist POV as cyclist have a right to be on the road from a drivers POV. To say otherwise makes us no better than car drivers shouting "you don't pay road tax".

What, with the army of idiots on the road today on bikes and threads like this - I feel like getting off my bike. Total fu£ktards.

And no I don't own a horse or know anyone who does now. Seems to be some of the complaints here are class orientated hating people for having disposable income to spend on a horse.

drlodge

If you think horses are bad, you haven't seen sheep. Had a whole flock of them emptied onto the road on my way to Amesbury. They blocked the road for a good 10-15 minutes until I eventually managed to squeeze my way round them. Don't think the farmer was too impressed, but I got really irritated at being held up for so long.

team47b

They test titanium for corrosion (for bone joints etc) by inserting it into sheep, maybe the farmer thought you were about to conduct this test with the whole bike :shock:

NervexProf

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-ma ... r-23403935

daviesee

NervexProf wrote:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-23403935

I was about to post this but you beat me to it.

Taking the horse inside was clearly a stupid idea and it taking a dump inside is beyond the pale but.....

Why not serve her at the drive through?
Why are cyclists a danger to health & safety but motor bikes aren't?
So many questions from the Mac's* statement. :evil:

*I won't use their full name for fear of lawsuit for illegally using a copyright. :roll: