C59 owners? bad points?
mfin
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Thinking of getting a C59. Rather than looking for out and out praise, can people who own one mention any bad points or short-fallings to their expectations.
Most buying threads are so tainted by people tainted by their belief their money has bought the best possible product.... I know its a good frame, but has anyone got any negatives? Or bought one and changed to something else, and why? A good degree of people who might have a product who think its the holy grail will replace it (defying the holy-grail bit a little), so I suppose Im after some picky opinions.
(just to put that in context, one of my bikes is an R3, and I can pick a few things about it which are disappointing)
Most buying threads are so tainted by people tainted by their belief their money has bought the best possible product.... I know its a good frame, but has anyone got any negatives? Or bought one and changed to something else, and why? A good degree of people who might have a product who think its the holy grail will replace it (defying the holy-grail bit a little), so I suppose Im after some picky opinions.
(just to put that in context, one of my bikes is an R3, and I can pick a few things about it which are disappointing)
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The only down side to a colnago is the price but if you are o.k with the price there is not a wrong with them.
So you're opinion is that fit permitting they are the best frame at the money, and nothing else offers anything else? ...just asking, not being picky or provocative... its a lot of money, and reviews dont mean a lot, its nice to know opinions from people who've put 1000s of miles on them and similarly priced frames
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For 10k I'd rather have a custom build Parlee. Freedom to spec geometry and a custom paint job.
Within my ability I cannot find one single fault.
Some may claim they aren't the lightest at 1000gm's but this is a deliberate plan by Ernesto as he doesn't believe a frame is safe when built lighter, he's probably right as the frame is very stiff and doesn't use a BB30 or BBright Bottom Bracket as it is built properly.
From the grapevine they appear to have one of the lowest failure rates/warranty claims as opposed to the likes of Cervelo.
If they are good enough for Voeckler, then they are certainly good enough for me 8)
There are no bad points of a C59, they are fantastic frames imo.
If weight is important to you, then they are not the lightest frame. The lightest frames I have are the R5 VWD and the Parlee z5 - the C59 is not in that category.
At present electric or manual are separate frames, whereas some other top end framesets have both capabilities on the one frame (although people here have retro fitted electric to a manual frame, not sure what that does to the warranty).
It's tough to get a bargain on a C59, whereas periodically you can get good discounts on some very good frames (R5VWD at half price !)
The most critical question (which is also true of all high end frames) is probably whether the frame is worth the incremental cost over a cheaper frame. I have frames that cost 50-60% of the C59 frameset and performance wise there is no significant difference. On a bang for buck basis I still think my Canyon SLX was the best frame I bought. It's lighter than the C59, I have ridden it for 10+ hour rides with no discomfort and it is a simple frame to work on.
That's as dispassionate a view as I can give. However you cannot overlook the other factors that go into choosing a frame. The aesthetics on the C59 are spot on, having been brought up on lugged frames I like the look of a lugged frame, I really look forward to riding it and the Colnago name still means something to me.
I think you missed the smiley face there
We're not talking 10k though, we're talking 2.5k for a frameset, using existing 2ks worth of parts to have it rolling on Super Record and Shamals, so 4.5k is less than half that.
I can put you in touch of someone who has an HT5.7. I'll PM you.
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I saw them twice! looking back at their videos they don't half look daft though, time has taken its toll! Used to love the fact that they were quite raw and agressive when so much guitar music at the time was so wet and bon-jovi-esque, which I was allergic to! ...saw GnR twice too in the Apetite era before they went all censored with the Use Your Illusion stuff, inc at the Marquee with Faster Pussycat and probably 20 metres away from where the people who sadly died at Donington were
Fair point although a non-custom parlee Z2 or Z3 would be about in that ball park too. As would a TCR Advanced SL which, imo have one of the best frame sets of any production bike. The shop I got my Giant from has a TCR Sl frameset in L for £1500. Lighter and stiffer than the C59. If it was in my size I would be sorely tempted.
Worth a thought? Maybe not as in vogue as Colnago but Giant frames are second to none imo.
No, its not a C59 but a very good bike all the same. One of the guys in our group rides a C59 and it is stunning but no more so than the Giant TCR SL.
Still a high end bike though.
Actually the TCR Advanced SL is the only thing Id consider automatically apart from a C59. (Will definitely look at these Legends though)
Think the chances of getting a new non-ISP in Medium which is the most common size, at £1500 is quite small though.
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But that is a personal choice which would be nice to have.
Edit:- Perfectly happy with the Master and see no reason to buy another "good" bike, but if I was..... :P
Awesome, where from? When will it be ready?
Dont forget to post some pics
Will post some pics up.