My bike after a bike fit!

jonny_trousers

Surely this is just the OP having a laugh.

ugo.santalucia

finally this big bike fit scam is starting to burst... :twisted:

Proff

The bike is a medium 54cm and I am 5'10" with a 32" inside leg.
When he first saw me he said, generically I should be riding a 56cm frame.
I would not say I have odd physiology. I thought I was pretty normal, but he said if anything I was slightly longer in the body.
I am not very flexible though, but nothing too extreme.
I didn't really have any great issues, just the odd bit of left knee soreness after 60+ mile rides. Not every time though.
I honestly thought that he would make a few tweaks here and there and check my cleat position to hopefully increase the efficincy of my pedal stroke.
I couldn't believe it when he turned my seatpost.
The saddle was moved 4.5cm forward and he recommended a longer stem.
It all just looks wrong.
I would rather not name names as the fitter has had good feedback on the web and on this site also. One negative post could really screw things up a bit.
I am disappointed, and yes I did pay. I think that's the problem. Feel a bit cheated.
I've included a photo of the full bike as requested.
Reckon I'm going to put it back to near where I had it before, maybe slightly forward.
Won't be doing it again though

zardoz

More important than how it looks, how does it ride? If it rides better then its been worthwhile.

crumbschief

Well that certainly saves money and could possibly start a following,i'd just go with the Australian built frame also shown in the picture.

ashleydwsmith

But if you had a longer stem would that not negate the moving of the saddle?

sloppyschleckonds

He's caught some whoppers

ugo.santalucia

Proff wrote:

The bike is a medium 54cm and I am 5'10" with a 32" inside leg.
When he first saw me he said, generically I should be riding a 56cm frame.
I would not say I have odd physiology. I thought I was pretty normal, but he said if anything I was slightly longer in the body.
I am not very flexible though, but nothing too extreme.
I didn't really have any great issues, just the odd bit of left knee soreness after 60+ mile rides. Not every time though.
I honestly thought that he would make a few tweaks here and there and check my cleat position to hopefully increase the efficincy of my pedal stroke.
I couldn't believe it when he turned my seatpost.
The saddle was moved 4.5cm forward and he recommended a longer stem.
It all just looks wrong.
I would rather not name names as the fitter has had good feedback on the web and on this site also. One negative post could really screw things up a bit.
I am disappointed, and yes I did pay. I think that's the problem. Feel a bit cheated.
I've included a photo of the full bike as requested.
Reckon I'm going to put it back to near where I had it before, maybe slightly forward.
Won't be doing it again though

You are like me, dimensions wise... I would never ride that thing...

jgsi

This has to be internetwind up... who the hell would pay money for that?

Proff

Honestly, not a wind up!

smidsy

Proff wrote:

The bike is a medium 54cm and I am 5'10" with a 32" inside leg.
I would rather not name names as the fitter has had good feedback on the web and on this site also. One negative post could really screw things up a bit.
I am disappointed, and yes I did pay. I think that's the problem. Feel a bit cheated.

If it rides well and feels better/gives better results the fit may actually be correct.

Did you get all the dimensions with the fit? It may well be that given your personal dimensions, flexibility etc. it is correct - it is not the fitters fault if the frame is the wrong one.

Judging by your bars/hoods at the front you are quite sat up, so it may be that you need a different geometry frame.

jgsi

You need to cancel that cheque
Then the fitter should make hardware recommendations... not allow someone to ride off into the sunset with things arse about face

Grill

I know of a highly regarded fitter that did the opposite- shoved the saddle all the way back on a 40mm setback post with a 50mm stem because he said the frame was too big...

Thing is, regardless of the fitter you'll always have to adjust yourself. If you only had a slight pain in the knee after longer rides, then these sort of extreme changes strike me as counter-intuitive as he should be tweaking rather than changing.

I ride far forward with a long stem, but if a fitter made extreme changes to my position in order to attempt to rectify a small issue I would certainly question it and wouldn't take it at face value.

TakeTurns

LOL.

ooermissus

ugo.santalucia wrote:

finally this big bike fit scam is starting to burst... :twisted:

I'd love to see an article where the same rider took the same bike to a number of fitters. Wonder how much the recommendations would vary.

imposter2.0

ooermissus wrote:

ugo.santalucia wrote:

finally this big bike fit scam is starting to burst... :twisted:

I'd love to see an article where the same rider took the same bike to a number of fitters. Wonder how much the recommendations would vary.

excellent idea - would love to read that too

diy

Take the plank of wood out and flip the post back round and it should be fine. Seems a bit extreme getting a bike fit for your turbo set up.

ugo.santalucia

ooermissus wrote:

ugo.santalucia wrote:

finally this big bike fit scam is starting to burst... :twisted:

I'd love to see an article where the same rider took the same bike to a number of fitters. Wonder how much the recommendations would vary.

Bike fitters, dog walkers... risible jobs for a society with too much money and too little time

Monty Dog

Unless the OP has a condition that severely limits mobility, I'd never set up a bike that way for a regular rider. For a start the weight distribution is too far forward meaning cornering hard is likely to result in a front wheel wash-out

Proff

Bike fitters, dog walkers... risible jobs for a society with too much money and too little time[/quote]

I don't have too much money. That's why I've got a piece of wood propping up my front wheel on the turbo!

napoleond

Imposter wrote:

ooermissus wrote:

ugo.santalucia wrote:

finally this big bike fit scam is starting to burst... :twisted:

I'd love to see an article where the same rider took the same bike to a number of fitters. Wonder how much the recommendations would vary.

excellent idea - would love to read that too

Check out my last blog...

Mart74

NapoleonD wrote:

Imposter wrote:

ooermissus wrote:

ugo.santalucia wrote:

finally this big bike fit scam is starting to burst... :twisted:

I'd love to see an article where the same rider took the same bike to a number of fitters. Wonder how much the recommendations would vary.

excellent idea - would love to read that too

Check out my last blog...

Just read it, excellent info, thanks.

mallorcajeff

Christ do your knees hurt? That cannot be right?

nawty

NapoleonD wrote:

Imposter wrote:

ooermissus wrote:

ugo.santalucia wrote:

finally this big bike fit scam is starting to burst... :twisted:

I'd love to see an article where the same rider took the same bike to a number of fitters. Wonder how much the recommendations would vary.

excellent idea - would love to read that too

Check out my last blog...

Interesting about your weak glutes and ITB issues - I was told exactly the same thing at my recent fit and had the bike adjusted accordingly. It is exactly the same as a biomechanics expert told me was the cause of my knee pain when running. I exercised to stop it which worked wonders but since got lazy (as I wasn't training for a long race) and then I started cycling.

Ultimately, as far as I can tell for folk such as us it's all about doing lunges. Lots of lunges.

Paul 8v

It must be a wind up surely?

ooermissus

NapoleonD wrote:

ooermissus wrote:

I'd love to see an article where the same rider took the same bike to a number of fitters. Wonder how much the recommendations would vary.

Check out my last blog...

Interesting write up. You say:

I’d highly recommend both fitters I’ve been to, they both have different approaches, but I was really pleased with the results from both.

Did the difference in the approaches (and subsequent recommendations) bother you at all?

napoleond

ooermissus wrote:

NapoleonD wrote:

ooermissus wrote:

I'd love to see an article where the same rider took the same bike to a number of fitters. Wonder how much the recommendations would vary.

Check out my last blog...

Interesting write up. You say:

I’d highly recommend both fitters I’ve been to, they both have different approaches, but I was really pleased with the results from both.

Did the difference in the approaches (and subsequent recommendations) bother you at all?

No, I expected it with two different people.

I got good results with both although I have to say that despite my current lack of fitness my last FTP test was the highest it's ever been! When I'm fit I can't wait to see what I can do again

drlodge

Proff wrote:

The saddle was moved 4.5cm forward and he recommended a longer stem.

This statement tells me the fitter is a complete idiot. I was going to suggest that the top tube of the frame is way too long, and therefore in order to reach some kind of compromise, the fitter moved your seat forwards so that you could actually reach the bars. If he is also saying fit a longer stem, then he's placing your body waayyyyy forwards with loads of weight on your arms.

The starting point is the saddle - height and set back. Per Steve Hogg, you should be able to pretty much take your hands off the bars when pedalling with some power. With your saddle position, I bet you'd fall face first onto the bars.

If the "reach" (from saddle to bars) is about right with this setup, I suggest you need a much smaller frame i.e. one with a much shorter effective top tube length. But that saddle needs to go way back.

daddylonglegs

Good grief! As one of the comments said, the whole story might not be being told. Looking at the later pic of the whole bike, I'd say the front end at least has been set up for something other than for a person going fast efficiently (bars too high). I'd be very surprised if that saddle position didn't put his knee joint too far forward of the pedal axle. On a road-racing type bike people usually have their bars too high either because they don't know any better or because back problems, lack of flexibility, lack of core strength or age prevents them from getting low enough. Some of the set-up suggests the bike is too small. Assuming the frame's not a compact design then the seat post looks a long way out and there's a lot of stack under the handlebar stem. Then again, if it were too small I wouldn't think reversing the seat post would make any sense at all. It really does look a complete mess.

jordan_217

Proff, did you get this done in Cambridge????