Giro Stage 3 - Spoiler Thread

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  • greasedscotsman
    greasedscotsman Posts: 6,962
    ddraver wrote:
    Look, he was never far away, the point is that I suspect he wasnt expecting to be chasing for a fair few stages yet, if at all...

    Blimey. I wasn't having a go at Wiggins, I just thought he was with Hesjedal on the descent all the time, that's the only point I was making.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Was surprised by Astana.
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  • greasedscotsman
    greasedscotsman Posts: 6,962
    Macaloon wrote:
    frenchfighter wrote:
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    :roll: Contis???

    Merida eh? Wouldn't have happen with a Wilier. You don't see any Team Colombia riders crashing... oh wait...
  • inkyfingers
    inkyfingers Posts: 4,400
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Was surprised by Astana.

    In what sense? Nibbles always seemed to have at least one team mate with him.

    I imagine we'll see them to the fore on the big mountain stages.
    "I have a lovely photo of a Camargue horse but will not post it now" (Frenchfighter - July 2013)
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    inkyfingers wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Was surprised by Astana.

    In what sense? Nibbles always seemed to have at least one team mate with him.

    I imagine we'll see them to the fore on the big mountain stages.

    That they had so many riders there. Just didn't think they were all that.
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  • inkyfingers
    inkyfingers Posts: 4,400
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    inkyfingers wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Was surprised by Astana.

    In what sense? Nibbles always seemed to have at least one team mate with him.

    I imagine we'll see them to the fore on the big mountain stages.

    That they had so many riders there. Just didn't think they were all that.

    It's not a team of mega stars, but judging by the performance in Trentino they are well drilled and here solely to look after Nibbles. I can see them and Sky doing what Liquigas always used to do in the Giro, despite what many seem to think, Sky didn't invent that tactic.
    "I have a lovely photo of a Camargue horse but will not post it now" (Frenchfighter - July 2013)
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    OCDuPalais wrote:
    greasedscotsman wrote:
    Thought Wiggins was with the Hesjedal group for the entire descent. Can't see him in this photo...

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    This photo is yet another exhibit to debunk that load of old tosh that gets spouted to newbies and in training manuals about how the pros and top descenders do their braking before the corner not during it. When they're training on their own in a gentle recovery ride, maybe...

    “They skidded in front of me and I touched my brakes instinctively, and I ended up falling myself,”
    -Scarponi
    Contador is the Greatest
  • ocdupalais
    ocdupalais Posts: 4,317
    frenchfighter wrote:

    “They skidded in front of me and I touched my brakes instinctively, and I ended up falling myself,”
    -Scarponi


    Silly sod.
    Doesn't he know you don't touch the brakes in the corner - it's in every text book.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,695
    greasedscotsman wrote:
    ddraver wrote:
    Look, he was never far away, the point is that I suspect he wasnt expecting to be chasing for a fair few stages yet, if at all...

    Blimey. I wasn't having a go at Wiggins, I just thought he was with Hesjedal on the descent all the time, that's the only point I was making.

    Yeah, I know. There's a bit of black and white in this discussion which is a discussion about shades of grey is all...

    Just because it wasnt a devastating, Sky Killing stage from Garmin and Astana does not mean that it was a total failure from Garmin and Astana
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • Paul 8v
    Paul 8v Posts: 5,458
    frenchfighter wrote:
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    Hopefully soon!

    I can help but think that pink bar tape and saddle from yesterday had been intended for Mr W originally :mrgreen:
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  • greasedscotsman
    greasedscotsman Posts: 6,962
    ddraver wrote:
    Just because it wasnt a devastating, Sky Killing stage from Garmin and Astana does not mean that it was a total failure from Garmin and Astana

    Oh for sure. If Hesjedal (or any of the other GC riders) hadn't gone for it, it would have been a much larger group contesting the finish and he probably wouldn't have got any time bonuses. Not really sure what Astana got out of it? I suppose you could say it put Scarponi under pressure. He might not have crashed if they had just cruised into the finish.
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    frenchfighter wrote:
    inkyfingers wrote:
    frenchfighter wrote:
    inkyfingers wrote:
    Was thinking on the way into the office, when was the last time we saw a rider attack on a descent in a GT and take a serious amount of time?

    It happens more often than you think but the time gains are often small between the top GC candidates although one or two will lose out. It does wear the nerves and tire the body though for those unprepared. It`s also very exciting for the viewers.

    A few great moves come to mind.

    Come on, lets have a recent example? I can think of Sanchez in the Vuelta, but after that i'm struggling a bit, but there must be others.

    I'm not denying that it's exciting, it's brilliant. However, despite the fact we all talk a lot about how good Nibali is at descending, I can't ever remember him actually using that talent to win a big race.

    Giro with Arroyo desceing like a demon trying to hold onto the jersey, there were one or two others from descents in that (Basso stage win, Nibali stage win)
    One Vuleta with Valverde et co
    Tour with Samu, Evans and Contador

    Giro 11 St 15.
    Ridiculous legendary stage.
    Niabli loses about a minute on the Fedaia after Contador turns on the pain then Nibali makes it up on the descent. He said after that the time loss didnt concern him.
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    Bit random I know but was looking for a photo and came across this one.
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