Questions about moving out of London
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If you lived in London,wanted to move out of London (property between £250,000 - £300,000) but retain the ability to commute into London were would you move to and why?
If you wanted a little ethnic diversity but did not want a city, where would move to and wouldn't move to and why?
When people refer to it being a different way of living what are they refering to?
If you lived in London,wanted to move out of London (property between £250,000 - £300,000) but retain the ability to commute into London were would you move to and why?
If you wanted a little ethnic diversity but did not want a city, where would move to and wouldn't move to and why?
When people refer to it being a different way of living what are they refering to?
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I am considering it but I would need to jump through many a hoop and over many a hurdle to do it. Essex is being debated but can't see it being a realistic option (watch me move to Essex and the removal of my nuts). I don't like or know anything about the North West of London (thar be globins and by 2017 most it will be Heathrow...). That leaves South West and South East of London.
Ethnic diversity would be nice, but not the London kind.
Discuss.
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You can make London in less than 2 hours from mine as I'm within spitting distance of East Midlands Parkway. That much would get you a good sized 4-5 bed detached house with garage in these parts.
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How green an area do you want? Or is cusp-of-city-and-country preferable?
Any additional info about train fares would be greatly appreciated.
Derby does make me think though....
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I'm thinking village, or new build on the cusp of the city. There is no point leaving a City like London (as great as London) to move into another City.
I'm open to rural and country and cusp-of-the city suggestions.
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Surrey/Hampshire into Waterloo is pretty convenient; Beds/Bucks into Euston ditto.
Whatever you do find somewhere that has a reasonably quick service. As an example Sevenoaks in Kent has trains that go Sevenoaks-Waterloo East-Charing X, missing out about 15-20 stops on the way.
I'd aim for 1 hour on the train each way, max. Use that plus the train journey convenience to identify the band in which you'd be living then select towns from the band.
You know how much an annual rail season ticket is, right?
As for ethnic diversity, I'd say if you're going to move out, get your fill of it in London and leave it there. Outside London if I think ethnic diversity somewhere like Luton (no thanks) comes to mind.
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I'm moving "out" but not to far - it will still be commutable by bike, but it will be outside of London (which i virtually live on the outskirts of anyway) and the otherside of the M25. House prices are the reason for the move. I pay a stupid premium for living in a London Borough and I can get a much better sized house for a massive saving by moving 4/5 miles away from where I live now.
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I'm also 400 yards from the countryside and have 'proper' country pubs all over the bleeding place.
I do not like city living and am very much a village type at heart but I don't have to compromise on getting to places
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Is there a map of the train routes and the predicted journey times into London?
I want some, but not too much...
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Not one I could find.
However, some lines are better than others and despite it's faults SWT do operate a decent service on the Woking / Guildford line which runs fast in a morning missing out a load of stations (notably Clapham, Earlsfield and Vauxhall) which speeds up the route. Walton to Waterloo, for instance, is 25 minutes in a morning compared to 35 minutes at normal times.
However, being on a good line comes at a price; the lines mentioned as good are also the most over-crowded in the UK.
Also, whilst improving, the home counties are prime Daily Mail territory so don't expect too much in the way of diversity.
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TFL has maps and using various sites you can work out journey times.
If it (place) has good rail connections then it will cost.
if you do mean truly out of london then expect, to be the only black man in the village, even in the leafy SW suburbs it's a sea of white.
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I work in the city, my commute used to be 50mins each way on the bike and effectively free; now it is 1h30 each way on my folding bike & train - 25min ride to High Wycombe station, 35 min train ride, 25min ride from Marylebone to the office. Cost is £305 per month. I do miss the old commute; the folder isn't great to ride. I drive to the station on average once a week when I get fed up with riding or if the weather is horrible.
Also, I'm tired of being asked by new minorities (Polish, Romanians ect)
"Where are you from?"
"London"
"No, where are you really from?"
"England" (I'm born here, I've spent all of my life here, I speak no other languages and I've been to France more than I've been to Jamaica)
"Sigh..." <<eye role>>
It is actually rude to ask the question and not accept the answer as though I should be from somewhere else or don't know my heritage. Truth is there are Black and Asian people living here with no link (possibly none living) to the Country where their ancestors or great/grandparents came from.
Then you have to consider schools in London and the type of kids being sent to these schools in areas where you can still buy houses for around £250,000. I'd argue that's why there is a noticable increase in the number of kids from ethnicities other than 'white' entering private education. So f*ck that, I'm fooking off out. If I had to be honest I don't want to live in a place where I'm the only one and people are crossing the street as I walk past or the pub literally freezes as I walk-in, but the alternative isn't all its cracked up to be... There's more, I have to think about my son and both sides of the argument - being the only one vs being one of too many, but it is a debate for the pub.
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Quite. If you want Surrey village, then at the risk of invoking a Little Britain sketch, you might stand out a bit. I'd maybe have a look at the very outer London suburbs - the kind where you can see fields over the back fence, but are still in touch with civilisation.
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This is me, but again it comes at a premium. move the other side of the M25 and I dont pay a premium.
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I was gonna say; "that's Barnet!"
How about Welwyn Garden City? How do house prices stack up there?
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High Wycombe is ethnically diverse, at my kid's nursery there are all sorts of different ethnicities both with the kids and the teachers. No-one would give you a second glance.
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My brother used to have a book that was called something like the Daily Telegraph's Commute Planner. It did everything you're looking for - by towns it listed the length of train journey, frequency of service, property prices, description of towns and areas, etc.
No idea if it's still produced, though...
If you want cheaper houses and rural, there's no shortage of stereotypical English villages (hundreds of thatch roofs and quaint olde English brick buildings, village pubs etc.) that are within a 5-10 mile radius of the "city" centre and train station.... You could get yourself a good size rural house with massive garden for well under £300k around here.
Plenty of people I know commute to London for work from here.... It's really not a city!