Cycling advice that is both pointless to give & receive ?

Raffles

OK , I will start:


Saddle recommendations

I genuinely believe advice given and received in respect of this is redundant and pointless as everyboy`s ar$e is unique and saddle preference is such one guys comfort is another dude`s ar$e hatchet.

What other types of cycling advice are both pointless to dish out and receive ?

Nik Cube

Good point and as selle Italia made the prefect saddle with the turbo the conversation is pretty much dead.




See what I did there

the playing mantis

Raffles wrote:

OK , I will start:


Saddle recommendations

I genuinely believe advice given and received in respect of this is redundant and pointless as everyboy`s ar$e is unique and saddle preference is such one guys comfort is another dude`s ar$e hatchet.

What other types of cycling advice are both pointless to dish out and receive ?

not true.

some saddles are stupidly hard, like a brick. some have a bit of give. compare the shitty one i could use to hammer in fence posts on my orbea, to the one on my look that is not seemingly formed of stone, that is semi comfortable.

no matter what size, shape, fat covering your arse has, a saddle that is literally rock solid, isnt going to be as forgiving as one that isnt.

Strith

Starting a thread about giving advice which is pointless is a bit pointless, if you ask me.

What's the point?

LegendLust

I love the irony Raffles

Grill

the playing mantis wrote:

Raffles wrote:

OK , I will start:


Saddle recommendations

I genuinely believe advice given and received in respect of this is redundant and pointless as everyboy`s ar$e is unique and saddle preference is such one guys comfort is another dude`s ar$e hatchet.

What other types of cycling advice are both pointless to dish out and receive ?

not true.

some saddles are stupidly hard, like a brick. some have a bit of give. compare the sh!tty one i could use to hammer in fence posts on my orbea, to the one on my look that is not seemingly formed of stone, that is semi comfortable.

no matter what size, shape, fat covering your ars* has, a saddle that is literally rock solid, isnt going to be as forgiving as one that isnt.

Aaaaaaaaaand you're wrong. My rock hard carbon saddle with no padding is way more comfortable than exactly the same model in composite with padding.

Raffles is indeed correct.

Mikey23

How fast should I go... Always makes me smile

the playing mantis

Grill wrote:

the playing mantis wrote:

Raffles wrote:

OK , I will start:


Saddle recommendations

I genuinely believe advice given and received in respect of this is redundant and pointless as everyboy`s ar$e is unique and saddle preference is such one guys comfort is another dude`s ar$e hatchet.

What other types of cycling advice are both pointless to dish out and receive ?

not true.

some saddles are stupidly hard, like a brick. some have a bit of give. compare the sh!tty one i could use to hammer in fence posts on my orbea, to the one on my look that is not seemingly formed of stone, that is semi comfortable.

no matter what size, shape, fat covering your ars* has, a saddle that is literally rock solid, isnt going to be as forgiving as one that isnt.

Aaaaaaaaaand you're wrong. My rock hard carbon saddle with no padding is way more comfortable than exactly the same model in composite with padding.

Raffles is indeed correct.

id suggest to most casuals and jcls like myself im right, rather than you cycling tragics if we were to carry out a straw poll. whats the difference between carbon and composite...?

Grill

Carbon is carbon whereas composite is a mixture of at least two materials.

I would wager that the saddle on your Look isn't actually that stiff and is most certainly the wrong shape for your given morphology.

Strith

the playing mantis wrote:

Grill wrote:

the playing mantis wrote:

Raffles wrote:

OK , I will start:


Saddle recommendations

I genuinely believe advice given and received in respect of this is redundant and pointless as everyboy`s ar$e is unique and saddle preference is such one guys comfort is another dude`s ar$e hatchet.

What other types of cycling advice are both pointless to dish out and receive ?

not true.

some saddles are stupidly hard, like a brick. some have a bit of give. compare the sh!tty one i could use to hammer in fence posts on my orbea, to the one on my look that is not seemingly formed of stone, that is semi comfortable.

no matter what size, shape, fat covering your ars* has, a saddle that is literally rock solid, isnt going to be as forgiving as one that isnt.

Aaaaaaaaaand you're wrong. My rock hard carbon saddle with no padding is way more comfortable than exactly the same model in composite with padding.

Raffles is indeed correct.

id suggest to most casuals and jcls like myself im right, rather than you cycling tragics if we were to carry out a straw poll. whats the difference between carbon and composite...?

All saddles classed as 'carbon' whatever are all composites.

danlikesbikes

Grill wrote:

Carbon is carbon whereas composite is a mixture of at least two materials.

I would wager that the saddle on your Look isn't actually that stiff and is most certainly the wrong shape for your given morphology.

^-^ Tend to agree.

I have an expensive saddle on the summer bike & a cheaper one one the winter hack, however they are both of a similar size and design to fit my butt. Personally mine are quite hard but have give at the rear & sides, but they might feel more or less soft depending on your own butt size/layout.

Grill

Indeed, but for the sake of brevity it's easier for me to differentiate as the "composite" is made of nylon with carbon reinforcements as opposed to a carbon fiber shell. Chalk it up to a difference in vernacular.

Strith

I thought maybe you had a diamond saddle, which I would imagine would indeed chafe a little.

dennisn

The Campy vs Shimano vs Sram is usually fairly pointless.

As is standard vs compact.

desweller

Grill wrote:

Indeed, but for the sake of brevity it's easier for me to differentiate as the "composite" is made of nylon with carbon reinforcements as opposed to a carbon fiber shell. Chalk it up to a difference in vernacular.

It's also exactly wrong. Not just a little bit wrong. Exactly wrong.

Er, useless advice? The long threads about what to put on your chain. Just stick some oil on it, it's a fucken bicycle for god's sake. People seem to think they're space rockets, and the newest technology on them is still 40 years old.

dennisn

DesWeller wrote:

Grill wrote:

Indeed, but for the sake of brevity it's easier for me to differentiate as the "composite" is made of nylon with carbon reinforcements as opposed to a carbon fiber shell. Chalk it up to a difference in vernacular.

It's also exactly wrong. Not just a little bit wrong. Exactly wrong.

Er, useless advice? The long threads about what to put on your chain. Just stick some oil on it, it's a fucken bicycle for god's sake. People seem to think they're space rockets, and the newest technology on them is still 40 years old.

And what about the questions on what chain to use?
Whenever someone asks this all chain brands are mentioned and all chain brands are both praised as the best and scorned as the worst.

Raffles

Cannondaleboss recent thread , which is best , bike 1, bike 2, bike 3, bike 4 was an apocalyptic howler also which was a behemoth of pointlessness. Anybody asking something like which is the best bike is something that members here ( and myself) rapidly pass over as it is pure undiluted pointlessness as Rider A will gush on about his Cannondale Evo, Rider B will say the Evo sucks and gush about his Cervelo and Rider C may say both those bikes are cack and money is better spent on a custom build ti bike from independent fabrications.

Answer is that all 3 bikes are terrific products and the asking which is best or declaring which is best is a total waste of time and thus pointless.

simon_masterson

Nothing wrong with saddle recommendations; it's not like we're (most of us, anyway) talking about bespoke products. There has to be something that fits (you won't do much cycling otherwise), and chances are anybody who's ridden some bikes with saddles on is likely to have some idea about their preferences for different features on those saddles - 'full' pressure relief channel, 'partial' pressure relief channel, padding, less padding, no padding, cut away design, longer skirting, wider, narrower, etc etc etc...

But I'm sure there's plenty of pointless advice you could give us on cycling attire?

cheaterkiller

Strith wrote:

Starting a thread about giving advice which is pointless is a bit pointless, if you ask me.

What's the point?

There isnt a point, hes just being blunt.

dennisn

cheaterkiller wrote:

Strith wrote:

Starting a thread about giving advice which is pointless is a bit pointless, if you ask me.

What's the point?

There isnt a point, hes just being blunt.

Seems I recall hearing somewhere / sometime something about "everyone has a point, even if they don't have one."
Harry Nilsson I believe. Poor Oblio didn't have a point. His dog Arrow did though.

mpatts

I find that when being asked for advice about pretty much any purchase is to ask what they are considering, then agree with that.

TakeTurns

If someone is asking for saddle advice, then they need to know that:

A: It must be the correct size
B: It's a bit of trial and error
C: It's a personal thing
Bigger, does not mean better
E: The malleability doesn't mean diddly squat. In fact, it is quite the contrary to popular belief

Therefore, saddles are not completely subjective to every user and advice can be made!

gaddster

No offence but this is a pointless thread, all the advice that is decreed as being pointless here will be sought, and answers offered, time and time again. That's just how it is.

Bozman

Alot of the advice given on this forum is pointless, how do you know what experience and the level of the individual giving the advice.

giant_man

TakeTurns wrote:

If someone is asking for saddle advice, then they need to know that:

A: It must be the correct size
B: It's a bit of trial and error
C: It's a personal thing
Bigger, does not mean better
E: The malleability doesn't mean diddly squat. In fact, it is quite the contrary to popular belief

Therefore, saddles are not completely subjective to every user and advice can be made!

No, only C: is relevant, it's the only answer surely, oh and a bit of B: ...

the playing mantis

Bozman wrote:

Alot of the advice given on this forum is pointless, how do you know what experience and the level of the individual giving the advice.

very true, just because someone has a picture of urself all geared up in ur avatar, and have thousands of posts, i suspect people think your advise holds more gravitas compared to someone with just a few posts. who knows if people are BS on here or not. all advise should be taken with a caveat.

johnny25

I'd imagine only people who have experienced a particular 'thing' will give advice on a Forum.

Giving advice when you haven't is utterly mind numbingly pointless and possibly reckless too. And criminal. I blame Luis Suarez.

sloppyschleckonds

Is this about my Chiropractor advising me to do stretches for my Iliotibial band syndrome?

keef66

There was somebody on here yesterday seeking orthodontic advice for his son. WTF?? Didn't even supply any photos or dental X-rays :roll:

MartinB2444

What's the best way to pedal?

lawrences

in circles.