Dog Ownership - A Rant

gtvlusso
gtvlusso Posts: 5,112
edited March 2013 in Commuting chat
Wilma cut a paw whilst out on a walk, probably broken glass considerately left on the common.

£65 vet fee for 'She'll be fine, administer 1 of these antibiotics twice a day' :shock:

Bugger!

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  • kelsen
    kelsen Posts: 2,003
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  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,433
    Cat ownership-

    Cat walking like gay cowboy. Morning off to see vet. Drained abcess near bum, antibiotics and painkillers, £100.

    **.....Kids these days grumble grumble grumble...**
  • UndercoverElephant
    UndercoverElephant Posts: 5,796
    Our current Guide Dog pup is just back from the Vet's after getting his "pockets picked". He does not like the Cone of Shame.
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  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,857
    Trouble is, because they don't have to pay to go to the doctor, or more than £8 for medicines they forget how costly medical care is.

    Pretty sure I'd want £100 to drain an abscess on a cat's bum too.*

    **.....people who want something for nothing, grumble, grumble...**

    *I should declare an interest here: both parents are/were vets.
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  • jzed
    jzed Posts: 2,926
    We had £120 bill for the removal of a stone from the dogs pad last week. Took two 5 minute visits. Bet the vet has a nice bike.

    In the mean time the dog is constantly destroying everything in its path. Skirting boards, radiator covers, supposedly indestructable toys, my lawn, fish tank. On Sunday it accidently bit through my thumb. Fortunately I'd spent the day at Twickenham so the pain was dull.
  • combatsapph
    combatsapph Posts: 23
    A vet visit for just a cut foot, an abcess and a stone? Really?

    I drained an abcess from my cats cheek and treated it with anti-septic cream (Savlon is ok) - cleared up in about 3 days. He had a cut pad once and again just used some anti-septic cream and cleaned it with salt water. Seem to remember removing a couple of big thorns once.

    Cat and dogs just like humans have mammal flesh - there's no real difference - treat thier cuts and scrapes just like you would your own and your kids - you wouldn't be whipping your kids off to the hospital every time they scraped a knee, cut themselves or got a splinter would you? Ok, some would but you know what I mean. Our cats are well looked after and in great health but tbh the only time they've been to the vet is for thier innoculations.

    Just make sure the anti-septic cream doesn't contain Phenol.
  • gtvlusso
    gtvlusso Posts: 5,112
    UndercoverElephant wrote:
    Our current Guide Dog pup is just back from the Vet's after getting his "pockets picked". He does not like the Cone of Shame.

    We have a 'cone of shame' for Wilma....

    The look on her face when I put it in the car.....I have not had the heart to wrap her head in it.
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,857
    gtvlusso wrote:
    UndercoverElephant wrote:
    Our current Guide Dog pup is just back from the Vet's after getting his "pockets picked". He does not like the Cone of Shame.

    We have a 'cone of shame' for Wilma....

    The look on her face when I put it in the car.....I have not had the heart to wrap her head in it.

    Stitches? If she doesn't chew them, you don't need the collar, but you really don't want to go back to the vet with an infected wound/pulled stitches. You'll get another bill, and a look from the vet that says "FFS, I gave you a collar so this wouldn't happen."
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  • shouldbeinbed
    shouldbeinbed Posts: 2,660
    apart from the £1000 we spent unsuccessfully trying to save one of our's tail. My 'how f*&"ing much' moment came when I was charged £125 for the analysis of a small pot of dogs wee.

    I wouldn't mind but I even had to don the rubber gloves and collect the sample from him.
  • gtvlusso
    gtvlusso Posts: 5,112
    rjsterry wrote:
    gtvlusso wrote:
    UndercoverElephant wrote:
    Our current Guide Dog pup is just back from the Vet's after getting his "pockets picked". He does not like the Cone of Shame.

    We have a 'cone of shame' for Wilma....

    The look on her face when I put it in the car.....I have not had the heart to wrap her head in it.

    Stitches? If she doesn't chew them, you don't need the collar, but you really don't want to go back to the vet with an infected wound/pulled stitches. You'll get another bill, and a look from the vet that says "FFS, I gave you a collar so this wouldn't happen."

    No stitches - cauterized. She licks it occasionally, but nothing more. The wound is on the stop pad as opposed to the main paw....
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,433
    combatsapph wrote:
    A vet visit for just a cut foot, an abcess and a stone? Really?

    I drained an abcess from my cats cheek and treated it with anti-septic cream (Savlon is ok) - cleared up in about 3 days. He had a cut pad once and again just used some anti-septic cream and cleaned it with salt water. Seem to remember removing a couple of big thorns once.

    Cat and dogs just like humans have mammal flesh - there's no real difference - treat thier cuts and scrapes just like you would your own and your kids - you wouldn't be whipping your kids off to the hospital every time they scraped a knee, cut themselves or got a splinter would you? Ok, some would but you know what I mean. Our cats are well looked after and in great health but tbh the only time they've been to the vet is for thier innoculations.

    Just make sure the anti-septic cream doesn't contain Phenol.
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    Its fine to treat a cat's abcess if you clear it out okay. But if you miss something, your cat dies of blood poisoning. Its worth the investment I would say. Besides, squeezing puss from a cat's bottom is as hazardous as cleaning lawnmower blades when its switched on.
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,857
    gtvlusso wrote:
    rjsterry wrote:
    gtvlusso wrote:
    UndercoverElephant wrote:
    Our current Guide Dog pup is just back from the Vet's after getting his "pockets picked". He does not like the Cone of Shame.

    We have a 'cone of shame' for Wilma....

    The look on her face when I put it in the car.....I have not had the heart to wrap her head in it.

    Stitches? If she doesn't chew them, you don't need the collar, but you really don't want to go back to the vet with an infected wound/pulled stitches. You'll get another bill, and a look from the vet that says "FFS, I gave you a collar so this wouldn't happen."

    No stitches - cauterized. She licks it occasionally, but nothing more. The wound is on the stop pad as opposed to the main paw....

    Dog saliva is not known for its antiseptic properties (cat saliva is worse, hence the number of abscesses they get), but sounds like it'll probably be alright. combatsapph is right, though. If you haven't got Savlon, hot water with plenty of salt will do (not so hot that it scalds, but at least 'hot bath' temperature. To avoid getting lacerated by a stroppy cat, swaddle it tightly in an old towel - easier if there's two of you: one to hold Kitty, and one to attend to the cut.
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  • Headhuunter
    Headhuunter Posts: 6,494
    rjsterry wrote:
    gtvlusso wrote:
    rjsterry wrote:
    gtvlusso wrote:
    UndercoverElephant wrote:
    Our current Guide Dog pup is just back from the Vet's after getting his "pockets picked". He does not like the Cone of Shame.

    We have a 'cone of shame' for Wilma....

    The look on her face when I put it in the car.....I have not had the heart to wrap her head in it.

    Stitches? If she doesn't chew them, you don't need the collar, but you really don't want to go back to the vet with an infected wound/pulled stitches. You'll get another bill, and a look from the vet that says "FFS, I gave you a collar so this wouldn't happen."

    No stitches - cauterized. She licks it occasionally, but nothing more. The wound is on the stop pad as opposed to the main paw....

    Dog saliva is not known for its antiseptic properties (cat saliva is worse, hence the number of abscesses they get), but sounds like it'll probably be alright. combatsapph is right, though. If you haven't got Savlon, hot water with plenty of salt will do (not so hot that it scalds, but at least 'hot bath' temperature. To avoid getting lacerated by a stroppy cat, swaddle it tightly in an old towel - easier if there's two of you: one to hold Kitty, and one to attend to the cut.

    I thought dog saliva and in fact human saliva had some antiseptic qualities? I'm sure someone told me that if you cut yourself it's good to get a dog to lick it...
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  • mudcow007
    mudcow007 Posts: 3,861
    Headhuunter wrote:

    I thought dog saliva and in fact human saliva had some antiseptic qualities? I'm sure someone told me that if you cut yourself it's good to get a dog to lick it...

    nope i think dog spit is pretty bad.

    Molly (our dog) eats crap off the floor if you don't catch her. i wouldn't fancy her licking my wounds :shock:
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  • Headhuunter
    Headhuunter Posts: 6,494
    mudcow007 wrote:
    Headhuunter wrote:

    I thought dog saliva and in fact human saliva had some antiseptic qualities? I'm sure someone told me that if you cut yourself it's good to get a dog to lick it...

    nope i think dog spit is pretty bad.

    Molly (our dog) eats crap off the floor if you don't catch her. i wouldn't fancy her licking my wounds :shock:
    Surely that's a good sign? She eats crap off the floor and yet isn't I'll all the time... something's killing the bacteria!
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  • gtvlusso
    gtvlusso Posts: 5,112
    rjsterry wrote:
    gtvlusso wrote:
    rjsterry wrote:
    gtvlusso wrote:
    UndercoverElephant wrote:
    Our current Guide Dog pup is just back from the Vet's after getting his "pockets picked". He does not like the Cone of Shame.

    We have a 'cone of shame' for Wilma....

    The look on her face when I put it in the car.....I have not had the heart to wrap her head in it.

    Stitches? If she doesn't chew them, you don't need the collar, but you really don't want to go back to the vet with an infected wound/pulled stitches. You'll get another bill, and a look from the vet that says "FFS, I gave you a collar so this wouldn't happen."

    No stitches - cauterized. She licks it occasionally, but nothing more. The wound is on the stop pad as opposed to the main paw....

    Dog saliva is not known for its antiseptic properties (cat saliva is worse, hence the number of abscesses they get), but sounds like it'll probably be alright. combatsapph is right, though. If you haven't got Savlon, hot water with plenty of salt will do (not so hot that it scalds, but at least 'hot bath' temperature. To avoid getting lacerated by a stroppy cat, swaddle it tightly in an old towel - easier if there's two of you: one to hold Kitty, and one to attend to the cut.

    Generally, day to day, if we tell her to stop licking, she does. However, we cannot control her at night - collar time! I am not a big fan of her licking the wound, but understand that it must hurt and be itchy!

    Putting Wilma in a bath is not gonna happen....gets quite growly and then shimmies all over the house. A bit sold for showering outside right now, but I will give her a scrub down this weekend if it is a bit warmer.
  • il_principe
    il_principe Posts: 9,155
    JZed wrote:
    On Sunday it accidently bit through my thumb. Fortunately I'd spent the day at Twickenham so the pain was dull.

    Accidental you reckon...
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,857
    gtvlusso wrote:
    rjsterry wrote:
    gtvlusso wrote:
    rjsterry wrote:
    gtvlusso wrote:
    UndercoverElephant wrote:
    Our current Guide Dog pup is just back from the Vet's after getting his "pockets picked". He does not like the Cone of Shame.

    We have a 'cone of shame' for Wilma....

    The look on her face when I put it in the car.....I have not had the heart to wrap her head in it.

    Stitches? If she doesn't chew them, you don't need the collar, but you really don't want to go back to the vet with an infected wound/pulled stitches. You'll get another bill, and a look from the vet that says "FFS, I gave you a collar so this wouldn't happen."

    No stitches - cauterized. She licks it occasionally, but nothing more. The wound is on the stop pad as opposed to the main paw....

    Dog saliva is not known for its antiseptic properties (cat saliva is worse, hence the number of abscesses they get), but sounds like it'll probably be alright. combatsapph is right, though. If you haven't got Savlon, hot water with plenty of salt will do (not so hot that it scalds, but at least 'hot bath' temperature. To avoid getting lacerated by a stroppy cat, swaddle it tightly in an old towel - easier if there's two of you: one to hold Kitty, and one to attend to the cut.

    Generally, day to day, if we tell her to stop licking, she does. However, we cannot control her at night - collar time! I am not a big fan of her licking the wound, but understand that it must hurt and be itchy!

    Putting Wilma in a bath is not gonna happen....gets quite growly and then shimmies all over the house. A bit sold for showering outside right now, but I will give her a scrub down this weekend if it is a bit warmer.

    You don't have to get the whole dog in, just the paw - a washing up bowl of hot water with Savlon would do.
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  • tgotb
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    OT: Can any of you dog lovers explain the trend for collecting your dog's poo in a bag and then hanging it in a tree? I'm sure it's a very small minority, but the behaviour honestly baffles me. There are normally bins in the area, and even where there aren't, plenty of other dog owners seem to manage.

    I have nothing against dogs, or most dog owners; I don't mind when over-exuberant dogs try to jump on me, and I recognise that my lifelong fear of German Shepheards is largely unfounded, but bags of rotting faeces at head height are not something I feel I should be expected to tolerate...
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  • wandsworth
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    TGOTB wrote:
    OT: Can any of you dog lovers explain the trend for collecting your dog's poo in a bag and then hanging it in a tree? I'm sure it's a very small minority, but the behaviour honestly baffles me. There are normally bins in the area, and even where there aren't, plenty of other dog owners seem to manage.

    I have nothing against dogs, or most dog owners; I don't mind when over-exuberant dogs try to jump on me, and I recognise that my lifelong fear of German Shepheards is largely unfounded, but bags of rotting faeces at head height are not something I feel I should be expected to tolerate...

    As a dog-owner I don't do this, would never do it and can't explain it. Just one possible theory: it's not the dog-owners themselves doing it but busybodies who don't like it when people leave bagged dog-poo on the floor to collect later (i.e. there are no bins on the route so they'll pick it up on the way back rather than carry it the whole way), so put it in the trees to Make A Point. We once left some bagged poo on the ground (at the side of the path, not somewhere it would be a nuisance) when walking in Cornwall, to pick up and take home on the way back and in the time we were walking, some idiot had thrown the bag into a bramble bush - where we couldn't reach it - and left a stupid little cryptic note about leaving poo on the ground. They had previously also written a similar note, in pen, on a nearby wooden stile, so some serious obsession going on there.
    First Aspect wrote:
    Morning off to see vet. Drained abcess near bum, antibiotics and painkillers, £100.

    That's interesting, but what did they do to the cat? :mrgreen:

    Vets are expensive!

    For those talking about DIY disinfecting of paws, etc, we do that too, but you need to go to the vet to get antibiotics etc.
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  • davis
    davis Posts: 2,506
    wandsworth wrote:
    As a dog-owner I don't do this, would never do it and can't explain it. Just one possible theory: it's not the dog-owners themselves doing it but busybodies who don't like it when people leave bagged dog-poo on the floor to collect later (i.e. there are no bins on the route so they'll pick it up on the way back rather than carry it the whole way)

    I've looked after dogs a fair bit, often for a while, and "leaving it for later" had never occurred to me... Having said that, I don't think I'd ever do it; to a non-dog-owner one bag of poo "left for later" looks just like a bag of poo "left".

    Yum. Talking poo.
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  • wandsworth
    wandsworth Posts: 354
    davis wrote:
    wandsworth wrote:
    As a dog-owner I don't do this, would never do it and can't explain it. Just one possible theory: it's not the dog-owners themselves doing it but busybodies who don't like it when people leave bagged dog-poo on the floor to collect later (i.e. there are no bins on the route so they'll pick it up on the way back rather than carry it the whole way)

    I've looked after dogs a fair bit, often for a while, and "leaving it for later" had never occurred to me... Having said that, I don't think I'd ever do it; to a non-dog-owner one bag of poo "left for later" looks just like a bag of poo "left".

    Yum. Talking poo.

    Yes, fair enough. But if you're going to just leave it, why bag it at all? Anyway, now thinking about making up some little stickers to put on the bag to say "will pick up within an hour" and "don't put me in a tree" or something.
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  • bompington
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    If I need to bag Jerry's poo when out and about (he usually only poos in the garden) then I just carry it with me - it's no big deal, you can easily tie the bag tight enough to stop it smelling.
    I really can't understand the phantom poo-baggers, and although it's easy enough to see through the anti-social morons who just leave it lying, the simple point is that if you can't deal with the poo, don't get a dog.

    Mind you, after bringing up three children, the requirement for a strong stomach is far smaller with dogs*

    *The exception being the aftermath of Jerry eating a whole tray of chocolate brownies. Although it helped that everything looked like chocolate, and smelled at least partly of chocolate...
  • Headhuunter
    Headhuunter Posts: 6,494
    bompington wrote:
    If I need to bag Jerry's poo when out and about (he usually only poos in the garden) then I just carry it with me - it's no big deal, you can easily tie the bag tight enough to stop it smelling.
    I really can't understand the phantom poo-baggers, and although it's easy enough to see through the anti-social morons who just leave it lying, the simple point is that if you can't deal with the poo, don't get a dog.

    Mind you, after bringing up three children, the requirement for a strong stomach is far smaller with dogs*

    *The exception being the aftermath of Jerry eating a whole tray of chocolate brownies. Although it helped that everything looked like chocolate, and smelled at least partly of chocolate...
    Isn't chocolate like a deadly poison to dogs?! Didn't he go into a coma or something?
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  • tgotb
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    wandsworth wrote:
    Anyway, now thinking about making up some little stickers to put on the bag to say "will pick up within an hour" and "don't put me in a tree" or something.
    Even if you're only leaving it for an hour, it's still a bag of poo lying on the ground next to the path. If you're not prepared to carry it, why should everyone else have to look at it?
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  • Headhuunter
    Headhuunter Posts: 6,494
    TGOTB wrote:
    wandsworth wrote:
    Anyway, now thinking about making up some little stickers to put on the bag to say "will pick up within an hour" and "don't put me in a tree" or something.
    Even if you're only leaving it for an hour, it's still a bag of poo lying on the ground next to the path. If you're not prepared to carry it, why should everyone else have to look at it?
    I miss the 80s when there was a pile of mysteriously white dog poo on every street corner and no one worried... Imo cats are worse, there are so many bloody cats round our way and they always come into MY garden for an extraordinarily smelly dump which I went up walking in. At least dogs don't take a sh!t in strangers' gardens....
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  • msmancunia
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    I don't know how true it is, but I heard the other day that the reason it was white was because people used to feed their dogs bones, so it was all the calcium. Apparently with all the chew things on the market these days they don't bother so much.

    I really hate cats though - I don't have any as I'm really allergic and the ones around my way seem to think that my garden is some kind of cat no-mans-land to be fought over/sprayed on/used as a loo :(

    *and before any cat lovers start, no, they aren't cute. They screech, spray, sh1t, vomit, and I can't stand them. Just for the avoidance of doubt.
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  • bompington
    bompington Posts: 7,674
    Headhuunter wrote:
    bompington wrote:
    If I need to bag Jerry's poo when out and about (he usually only poos in the garden) then I just carry it with me - it's no big deal, you can easily tie the bag tight enough to stop it smelling.
    I really can't understand the phantom poo-baggers, and although it's easy enough to see through the anti-social morons who just leave it lying, the simple point is that if you can't deal with the poo, don't get a dog.

    Mind you, after bringing up three children, the requirement for a strong stomach is far smaller with dogs*

    *The exception being the aftermath of Jerry eating a whole tray of chocolate brownies. Although it helped that everything looked like chocolate, and smelled at least partly of chocolate...
    Isn't chocolate like a deadly poison to dogs?! Didn't he go into a coma or something?
    It is. We worked out the dosage as roughly 60% the average fatal dose - he looked very wobbly for a day, then spent the next two days like a dog on speed :shock:
  • mudcow007
    mudcow007 Posts: 3,861
    msmancunia wrote:
    I don't know how true it is, but I heard the other day that the reason it was white was because people used to feed their dogs bones, so it was all the calcium. Apparently with all the chew things on the market these days they don't bother so much.

    I really hate cats though - I don't have any as I'm really allergic and the ones around my way seem to think that my garden is some kind of cat no-mans-land to be fought over/sprayed on/used as a loo :(

    *and before any cat lovers start, no, they aren't cute. They screech, spray, sh1t, vomit, and I can't stand them. Just for the avoidance of doubt.


    grow some catnip plants in your garden it keep all the cat away they hate it

    hehe
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