Box Hill challenge 2013

me-109

philbar72 wrote:

Name..........................Weight.......Time.....Month.....TOR.............................Watts/WattsKg/AvHR
P_a_d_d_y..................64kg.........5:40.......May.......3rd cat..................375w
JibberJim....................74kg........5.44.......May......Ex Club Run Hero .......412w..........
Okgo..........................78kg.........5.58.......May......2nd cat road............440w
iPete..........................69kg........6.03.......March.......Fixed 46x16.....
MoscowFlyer..............79kg.........6:24........June..........Fitness
Tom_UK......................60kg.......6.31.......Apr........
Englander....................78kg.........6:44........May......I ride for fun
Andy Bond...................77kg.......6.50.......April..........Fitness.................................177bpm/50yrs old....
topcattim....................67kg........6.50........June........Commuter/leisure & sportive rider
Ugo.santalucia.........don't want to know.. 6.55........May..........................
Philbar72..................... 77kg..........6.58.....Jul.......... Clubrunner
ajh18...........................62kg.......6.59.......Jul........Fitness, commuting, etc.........
On_What......................Beer gut......7:06.........June......Commuter/Weekend Warrior
Wavefront....................70kg........7.11.......May.......Road bike, commuting, for fun.
Me-109........................76Kg........7:15.......July.......Former racer - 20 years ago! Shadow of former self.
Rick Chasey..................55kg........7.15.........April......club runner (though time not set on club run...).
Stueys........................77kg..........7.18..........May...........fun, fitness, etc..............
diy.............................74kg........7.18.......july.......Fitness (Fasting Day)..165bpm/13mph/42yo
Gabbo.........................84kg........7.31....March.......Fitness.......................
Cumulonimbus...............90kg........7.33.......June.......Fitness/Triathlon
goonz..........................64kg.......7.54.......May........Fitness/commuting, first time up it should and could do better!
diy (full suss).................74kg.......9.17........July.......Chasin' roadies
ChrisA.........................75kg..... 10.49........June 1.......Fitness

Tried the Froome method of more revs. 10 secs improvement so something worked. Need to compare the 1/3rds segments to see where made up time (if I can find them in amongst all the other BH segments!).

Gabbo

Name..........................Weight.......Time.....Month.....TOR.............................Watts/WattsKg/AvHR
P_a_d_d_y..................64kg.........5:40.......May.......3rd cat..................375w
JibberJim....................74kg........5.44.......May......Ex Club Run Hero .......412w..........
Okgo..........................78kg.........5.58.......May......2nd cat road............440w
iPete..........................69kg........6.03.......March.......Fixed 46x16.....
MoscowFlyer..............79kg.........6:24........June..........Fitness
Tom_UK......................60kg.......6.31.......Apr........
Englander....................78kg.........6:44........May......I ride for fun
Gabbo..........................83kg.........6.50.......July.......Fitness etc
Andy Bond...................77kg.......6.50.......April..........Fitness.................................177bpm/50yrs old....
topcattim....................67kg........6.50........June........Commuter/leisure & sportive rider
Ugo.santalucia.........don't want to know.. 6.55........May..........................
Philbar72..................... 77kg..........6.58.....Jul.......... Clubrunner
ajh18...........................62kg.......6.59.......Jul........Fitness, commuting, etc.........
On_What......................Beer gut......7:06.........June......Commuter/Weekend Warrior
Wavefront....................70kg........7.11.......May.......Road bike, commuting, for fun.
Me-109........................76Kg........7:15.......July.......Former racer - 20 years ago! Shadow of former self.
Rick Chasey..................55kg........7.15.........April......club runner (though time not set on club run...).
Stueys........................77kg..........7.18..........May...........fun, fitness, etc..............
diy.............................74kg........7.18.......july.......Fitness (Fasting Day)..165bpm/13mph/42yo
Cumulonimbus...............90kg........7.33.......June.......Fitness/Triathlon
goonz..........................64kg.......7.54.......May........Fitness/commuting, first time up it should and could do better!
diy (full suss).................74kg.......9.17........July.......Chasin' roadies
ChrisA.........................75kg..... 10.49........June 1.......Fitness


Set this new time a couple of weeks ago and from my recollection, it was about 9pm, clear sky with little wind. Was off the bike from March - early/mid June so have had to work back up. Bike weighs near to 10kg too but what enabled me to shed 41 seconds is getting in the miles and tackling even tougher hills I.e Leith Hill & Whitedown lane.

Andy & Topcat I know we've both got the same time, but I've been cheeky and placed myself above you because I weigh more ;-)

Gabbo

Name..........................Weight.......Time.....Month.....TOR.............................Watts/WattsKg/AvHR
P_a_d_d_y..................64kg.........5:40.......May.......3rd cat..................375w
JibberJim....................74kg........5.44.......May......Ex Club Run Hero .......412w..........
Okgo..........................78kg.........5.58.......May......2nd cat road............440w
iPete..........................69kg........6.03.......March.......Fixed 46x16.....
MoscowFlyer..............79kg.........6:24........June..........Fitness
Tom_UK......................60kg.......6.31.......Apr........
Gabbo..........................82kg........6.34........July.........Fitness etc
Englander....................78kg.........6:44........May......I ride for fun
Andy Bond...................77kg.......6.50.......April..........Fitness.................................177bpm/50yrs old....
topcattim....................67kg........6.50........June........Commuter/leisure & sportive rider
Ugo.santalucia.........don't want to know.. 6.55........May..........................
Philbar72..................... 77kg..........6.58.....Jul.......... Clubrunner
ajh18...........................62kg.......6.59.......Jul........Fitness, commuting, etc.........
On_What......................Beer gut......7:06.........June......Commuter/Weekend Warrior
Wavefront....................70kg........7.11.......May.......Road bike, commuting, for fun.
Me-109........................76Kg........7:15.......July.......Former racer - 20 years ago! Shadow of former self.
Rick Chasey..................55kg........7.15.........April......club runner (though time not set on club run...).
Stueys........................77kg..........7.18..........May...........fun, fitness, etc..............
diy.............................74kg........7.18.......july.......Fitness (Fasting Day)..165bpm/13mph/42yo
Cumulonimbus...............90kg........7.33.......June.......Fitness/Triathlon
goonz..........................64kg.......7.54.......May........Fitness/commuting, first time up it should and could do better!
diy (full suss).................74kg.......9.17........July.......Chasin' roadies
ChrisA.........................75kg..... 10.49........June 1.......Fitness


Second post of the day, because I decided I was going to attack Box Hill today and have set a new personal record in doing so. My best time when creating the thread was 7.35, with my target being sub-7 by July. Had three months off since early March and thought it was an impossible task starting up again in June. Am happy with my 6.34, but I want even lower. Will not target the segment for a good while now so I can concentrate on training properly instead of beating segments..

leejdavies

Had an attempt at this on the weekend. Have to say it was semi-foiled. I was overtaken on the third section by a car who then pulled in and slowed for the cyclists in front. Dropped down 3-5mph for a couple hundred yards before overtaking. And it was cooking windy. Headwind on first(although this is shaded) and third sections. But happy with 6min dead given the circumstance. My fastest is ~5:40. I'd like to get down toward 5:20-30 if possible at some point. But Box Hill is usually the last 'hill' of our club runs so never all that fresh to go all out.



Name..........................Weight.......Time.....Month.....TOR.............................Watts/WattsKg/AvHR
P_a_d_d_y....................64kg..........5:40.......May.......3rd cat..................375w
JibberJim....................74kg...........5.44.......May......Ex Club Run Hero .......412w..........
Okgo..........................78kg...........5.58.......May......2nd cat road............440w
leejdavies...................78kg...........6.00.......July.......3rd cat..........................N/a
iPete..........................69kg..........6.03.......March.......Fixed 46x16.....
MoscowFlyer................79kg...........6:24........June..........Fitness
Tom_UK......................60kg...........6.31.......Apr........
Gabbo.........................82kg...........6.34........July.........Fitness etc
Englander....................78kg...........6:44........May......I ride for fun
Andy Bond...................77kg...........6.50.......April..........Fitness.................................177bpm/50yrs old....
topcattim....................67kg...........6.50........June........Commuter/leisure & sportive rider
Ugo.santalucia..............don't want to know.. 6.55........May..........................
Philbar72..................... 77kg...........6.58.....Jul.......... Clubrunner
ajh18...........................62kg..........6.59.......Jul........Fitness, commuting, etc.........
On_What......................Beer gut.....7:06.........June......Commuter/Weekend Warrior
Wavefront....................70kg........7.11.......May.......Road bike, commuting, for fun.
Me-109........................76Kg........7:15.......July.......Former racer - 20 years ago! Shadow of former self.
Rick Chasey..................55kg........7.15.........April......club runner (though time not set on club run...).
Stueys........................77kg.........7.18..........May...........fun, fitness, etc..............
diy.............................74kg........7.18.......july.......Fitness (Fasting Day)..165bpm/13mph/42yo
Cumulonimbus...............90kg........7.33.......June.......Fitness/Triathlon
goonz..........................64kg.......7.54.......May........Fitness/commuting, first time up it should and could do better!
diy (full suss).................74kg.......9.17........July.......Chasin' roadies
ChrisA.........................75kg..... .10.49........June 1.......Fitness

ajh18

Thought I'd have another go before a few thousand people descend on the place tomorrow, rewarded with a PB. Happy days.

Name..........................Weight.......Time.....Month.....TOR.............................Watts/WattsKg/AvHR
P_a_d_d_y....................64kg..........5:40.......May.......3rd cat..................375w
JibberJim....................74kg...........5.44.......May......Ex Club Run Hero .......412w..........
Okgo..........................78kg...........5.58.......May......2nd cat road............440w
leejdavies...................78kg...........6.00.......July.......3rd cat..........................N/a
iPete..........................69kg..........6.03.......March.......Fixed 46x16.....
MoscowFlyer................79kg...........6:24........June..........Fitness
Tom_UK......................60kg...........6.31.......Apr........
Gabbo.........................82kg...........6.34........July.........Fitness etc
Englander....................78kg...........6:44........May......I ride for fun
ajh18...........................62kg..........6.45.......Aug........Fitness, commuting, etc.........
Andy Bond...................77kg...........6.50.......April..........Fitness.................................177bpm/50yrs old....
topcattim....................67kg...........6.50........June........Commuter/leisure & sportive rider
Ugo.santalucia..............don't want to know.. 6.55........May..........................
Philbar72..................... 77kg...........6.58.....Jul.......... Clubrunner
On_What......................Beer gut.....7:06.........June......Commuter/Weekend Warrior
Wavefront....................70kg........7.11.......May.......Road bike, commuting, for fun.
Me-109........................76Kg........7:15.......July.......Former racer - 20 years ago! Shadow of former self.
Rick Chasey..................55kg........7.15.........April......club runner (though time not set on club run...).
Stueys........................77kg.........7.18..........May...........fun, fitness, etc..............
diy.............................74kg........7.18.......july.......Fitness (Fasting Day)..165bpm/13mph/42yo
Cumulonimbus...............90kg........7.33.......June.......Fitness/Triathlon
goonz..........................64kg.......7.54.......May........Fitness/commuting, first time up it should and could do better!
diy (full suss).................74kg.......9.17........July.......Chasin' roadies
ChrisA.........................75kg..... .10.49........June 1.......Fitness

cicada

Happy with that, first go in a long time as do not live near.
Name..........................Weight.......Time.....Month.....TOR.............................Watts/WattsKg/AvHR
P_a_d_d_y....................64kg..........5:40.......May.......3rd cat..................375w
JibberJim....................74kg...........5.44.......May......Ex Club Run Hero .......412w..........
Okgo..........................78kg...........5.58.......May......2nd cat road............440w
leejdavies...................78kg...........6.00.......July.......3rd cat..........................N/a
iPete..........................69kg..........6.03.......March.......Fixed 46x16.....
MoscowFlyer................79kg...........6:24........June..........Fitness
Tom_UK......................60kg...........6.31.......Apr........
Gabbo.........................82kg...........6.34........July.........Fitness etc
Englander....................78kg...........6:44........May......I ride for fun
ajh18...........................62kg..........6.45.......Aug........Fitness, commuting, etc.........
Andy Bond...................77kg...........6.50.......April..........Fitness.................................177bpm/50yrs old....
topcattim....................67kg...........6.50........June........Commuter/leisure & sportive rider
Ugo.santalucia..............don't want to know.. 6.55........May..........................
Philbar72..................... 77kg...........6.58.....Jul.......... Clubrunner
Cicada......................77kg..........7.00......Sept........Commuter/weekend warrior...162bpm
On_What......................Beer gut.....7:06.........June......Commuter/Weekend Warrior
Wavefront....................70kg........7.11.......May.......Road bike, commuting, for fun.
Me-109........................76Kg........7:15.......July.......Former racer - 20 years ago! Shadow of former self.
Rick Chasey..................55kg........7.15.........April......club runner (though time not set on club run...).
Stueys........................77kg.........7.18..........May...........fun, fitness, etc..............
diy.............................74kg........7.18.......july.......Fitness (Fasting Day)..165bpm/13mph/42yo
Cumulonimbus...............90kg........7.33.......June.......Fitness/Triathlon
goonz..........................64kg.......7.54.......May........Fitness/commuting, first time up it should and could do better!
diy (full suss).................74kg.......9.17........July.......Chasin' roadies
ChrisA.........................75kg..... .10.49........June 1.......Fitness

bigmat

Did this a couple of weeks ago at the end of an 80 mile ride - had forgotten about this thread!

Name..........................Weight.......Time.....Month.....TOR.............................Watts/WattsKg/AvHR
P_a_d_d_y....................64kg..........5:40.......May.......3rd cat..................375w
JibberJim....................74kg...........5.44.......May......Ex Club Run Hero .......412w..........
Okgo..........................78kg...........5.58.......May......2nd cat road............440w
leejdavies...................78kg...........6.00.......July.......3rd cat..........................N/a
iPete..........................69kg..........6.03.......March.......Fixed 46x16.....
BigMat........................82kg..........6.10.......Sep........2nd cat....................N/a
MoscowFlyer................79kg...........6:24........June..........Fitness
Tom_UK......................60kg...........6.31.......Apr........
Gabbo.........................82kg...........6.34........July.........Fitness etc
Englander....................78kg...........6:44........May......I ride for fun
ajh18...........................62kg..........6.45.......Aug........Fitness, commuting, etc.........
Andy Bond...................77kg...........6.50.......April..........Fitness.................................177bpm/50yrs old....
topcattim....................67kg...........6.50........June........Commuter/leisure & sportive rider
Ugo.santalucia..............don't want to know.. 6.55........May..........................
Philbar72..................... 77kg...........6.58.....Jul.......... Clubrunner
Cicada......................77kg..........7.00......Sept........Commuter/weekend warrior...162bpm
On_What......................Beer gut.....7:06.........June......Commuter/Weekend Warrior
Wavefront....................70kg........7.11.......May.......Road bike, commuting, for fun.
Me-109........................76Kg........7:15.......July.......Former racer - 20 years ago! Shadow of former self.
Rick Chasey..................55kg........7.15.........April......club runner (though time not set on club run...).
Stueys........................77kg.........7.18..........May...........fun, fitness, etc..............
diy.............................74kg........7.18.......july.......Fitness (Fasting Day)..165bpm/13mph/42yo
Cumulonimbus...............90kg........7.33.......June.......Fitness/Triathlon
goonz..........................64kg.......7.54.......May........Fitness/commuting, first time up it should and could do better!
diy (full suss).................74kg.......9.17........July.......Chasin' roadies
ChrisA.........................75kg..... .10.49........June 1.......Fitness

diy

Congrats to everyone who took part in this challenge. Particularly those who manged under 6:30 - very impressive.

Last year my target was 7:30 which I hit. This year I'm aiming for under 7. As soon as it stops raining.

diy

Is there a 2014 version of this.. just going through some of FIT files - I got me 6:46 to post

ugo.santalucia

diy wrote:

Is there a 2014 version of this.. just going through some of FIT files - I got me 6:46 to post

I did open a thread but nobody contributed. I think it's because is a popular segment on Strava, so there is no need for a thread?

kingstonian

ugo.santalucia wrote:

diy wrote:

Is there a 2014 version of this.. just going through some of FIT files - I got me 6:46 to post

I did open a thread but nobody contributed. I think it's because is a popular segment on Strava, so there is no need for a thread?

Richmond Park 3 lap challenge is also a popular strava segment

ugo.santalucia

Kingstonian wrote:

ugo.santalucia wrote:

diy wrote:

Is there a 2014 version of this.. just going through some of FIT files - I got me 6:46 to post

I did open a thread but nobody contributed. I think it's because is a popular segment on Strava, so there is no need for a thread?

Richmond Park 3 lap challenge is also a popular strava segment

Someone should sue Strava... promoting speeding in a 20 mph zone... outrageous...

diy

The 20 mph limit is not applicable to bicycles.

But it is still an offence promoting an unauthorised cycle race or time trial.

ugo.santalucia

diy wrote:

The 20 mph limit is not applicable to bicycles.

It is in Richmond Park

diy

I know.

It used to be the case that speed limits in royal parks applied to bicycles:, The Royal Parks and Other Open Spaces Regulations 1997 amended by the Royal Parks and Other Open Spaces (Amendment) Regulations 2004 stated that speed limits in the parks applied to all vehicles (not just motor vehicles). I recall at this time the limit was 30mph.

However, The Royal Parks and Other Open Spaces (Amendment) etc. Regulations 2010 include a definition of vehicle that applies only to motor vehicles (mechanically propelled), which deliberately or otherwise excluded bicycles from the definition of vehicle in the royal park. Thus, speed limits would not apply to bicycles in royal parks, just as they do not in general elsewhere.

You also have the whole issue of type approval for any device used to enforce a speed limit on a cycle - though that is not insurmountable

ugo.santalucia

diy wrote:

I know.

It used to be the case that speed limits in royal parks applied to bicycles:, The Royal Parks and Other Open Spaces Regulations 1997 amended by the Royal Parks and Other Open Spaces (Amendment) Regulations 2004 stated that speed limits in the parks applied to all vehicles (not just motor vehicles). I recall at this time the limit was 30mph.

However, The Royal Parks and Other Open Spaces (Amendment) etc. Regulations 2010 include a definition of vehicle that applies only to motor vehicles (mechanically propelled), which deliberately or otherwise excluded bicycles from the definition of vehicle in the royal park. Thus, speed limits would not apply to bicycles in royal parks, just as they do not in general elsewhere.

You also have the whole issue of type approval for any device used to enforce a speed limit on a cycle - though that is not insurmountable

People have been fined though...

diy

There is an argument that the 30mph limit previously in force could still be applied. They made a bit of a mess with all the amendments to amendments. In any case an officer who suspects speeding and uses a hand-held radar gun (or mobile gatso etc. etc.) to corroborate his suspicion - has no legally admissible evidence of corroboration. There is a way he can get round this - but I'm not going to post that on a public forum and give them ideas.

I reckon you'd have a defense up to 30mph and there are a few law firms willing to make a name for themselves pro-bono if anyone gets a ticket.

There are easier ways they can get you - but I'm not posting them either. Plod are at best badly informed when it comes to the details as most of their "legal" expertise comes from memos and guides written in plod friendly language. Besides they don't make the decision to prosecute if you dispute the fixed penalty. At the end of the day they need it like that given the general low standard of education they have.