Raleigh? Yeah, Raleigh!!

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  • RideOnTime
    RideOnTime Posts: 4,712
    jordan_217 wrote:
    MountainMonster wrote:
    This was an interesting read, most certainly. It seems this 'Fuji' person belongs at Hull University with the other arrogant know-it-alls .

    FTFY
  • Phil_D
    Phil_D Posts: 467
    On the saddle tilt, I've often wondered about the way it should be. They say level (or very slightly backwards), but which bit? Is it the very front level with the very back, or is it the bit in the middle that should be level?
  • k-dog
    k-dog Posts: 1,652
    ^it does depend on the saddle to an extent. With a lot of designs putting a level on them in line with the TT would result in them being nose down.

    With a few I've used I've found using a board or a large hardback book (so it's resting at the front and both back corners) gives a good result.

    Sometimes it's just a case of eyeballing it so the important parts are level though.
    I'm left handed, if that matters.
  • philbar72
    philbar72 Posts: 2,229
    NapoleonD wrote:
    That looks like the sort of saddle position they'd use in 50 shades of grey.
    optional sybian device?
  • warrior4life
    warrior4life Posts: 925
    limoneboy wrote:
    To be fair this is much worse , i mean 7k and set up like this the bar are higher than the seat ! and all those extras , it must be holding its head in shame i a shed somewhere :shock:

    oltre_zps9c7531a2.jpg

    That just looks like its set up for someone who desires comfort over speed.
    Probably for someone who may not be the most flexible.
    I see nothing wrong with the position at all.
  • Garry H
    Garry H Posts: 6,639
    warrior4life wrote:
    limoneboy wrote:
    To be fair this is much worse , i mean 7k and set up like this the bar are higher than the seat ! and all those extras , it must be holding its head in shame i a shed somewhere :shock:

    oltre_zps9c7531a2.jpg

    That just looks like its set up for someone who desires comfort over speed.
    Probably for someone who may not be the most flexible.
    I see nothing wrong with the position at all.

    or someone that's chosen style over substance...
  • declan1
    declan1 Posts: 2,470
    warrior4life wrote:
    limoneboy wrote:
    To be fair this is much worse , i mean 7k and set up like this the bar are higher than the seat ! and all those extras , it must be holding its head in shame i a shed somewhere :shock:

    oltre_zps9c7531a2.jpg

    That just looks like its set up for someone who desires comfort over speed.
    Probably for someone who may not be the most flexible.
    I see nothing wrong with the position at all.

    If you want comfort over speed, get a sportive-oriented bike like a Domane or a Defy. Not a full-on race bike...

    Road - Dolan Preffisio
    MTB - On-One Inbred

    I have no idea what's going on here.
  • rolf_f
    rolf_f Posts: 16,015
    declan1 wrote:
    If you want comfort over speed, get a sportive-oriented bike like a Domane or a Defy. Not a full-on race bike...

    Maybe the owner can only afford one bike for race and longer distances so runs different stems for different purposes. Who knows? It's not our place to order other people not to own specific bikes. And have you sorted your terrible bottle cages yet? I'm sure the owner of that Bianchi would be horrified to see such abominations on an otherwise nice bike - people in glass houses and all that.... :wink:
    Faster than a tent.......
  • declan1
    declan1 Posts: 2,470
    Rolf F wrote:
    declan1 wrote:
    If you want comfort over speed, get a sportive-oriented bike like a Domane or a Defy. Not a full-on race bike...

    Maybe the owner can only afford one bike for race and longer distances so runs different stems for different purposes. Who knows? It's not our place to order other people not to own specific bikes. And have you sorted your terrible bottle cages yet? I'm sure the owner of that Bianchi would be horrified to see such abominations on an otherwise nice bike - people in glass houses and all that.... :wink:

    That bike is no longer in use - found an enormous patch of rust that had nearly gone through the downtube. It is now in the process of being built up for the turbo ;)

    Also, if you can afford an Oltre, I'm sure you can afford a race bike and a long distance bike!

    Road - Dolan Preffisio
    MTB - On-One Inbred

    I have no idea what's going on here.
  • rolf_f
    rolf_f Posts: 16,015
    declan1 wrote:
    Rolf F wrote:
    declan1 wrote:
    If you want comfort over speed, get a sportive-oriented bike like a Domane or a Defy. Not a full-on race bike...

    Maybe the owner can only afford one bike for race and longer distances so runs different stems for different purposes. Who knows? It's not our place to order other people not to own specific bikes. And have you sorted your terrible bottle cages yet? I'm sure the owner of that Bianchi would be horrified to see such abominations on an otherwise nice bike - people in glass houses and all that.... :wink:

    That bike is no longer in use - found an enormous patch of rust that had nearly gone through the downtube. It is now in the process of being built up for the turbo ;)

    Also, if you can afford an Oltre, I'm sure you can afford a race bike and a long distance bike!

    Yeah, but if you have an Oltre but can't afford an Oltre, you might not even be able to afford food!

    Sorry about that nice BSA. My vintage Dawes didn't get to rust through as it got written off by a blind driver. A bad time for characterful frames. Mind you, maybe I should use the Dawes as a justification to get a turbo!
    Faster than a tent.......
  • declan1
    declan1 Posts: 2,470
    Rolf F wrote:
    declan1 wrote:
    Rolf F wrote:
    declan1 wrote:
    If you want comfort over speed, get a sportive-oriented bike like a Domane or a Defy. Not a full-on race bike...

    Maybe the owner can only afford one bike for race and longer distances so runs different stems for different purposes. Who knows? It's not our place to order other people not to own specific bikes. And have you sorted your terrible bottle cages yet? I'm sure the owner of that Bianchi would be horrified to see such abominations on an otherwise nice bike - people in glass houses and all that.... :wink:

    That bike is no longer in use - found an enormous patch of rust that had nearly gone through the downtube. It is now in the process of being built up for the turbo ;)

    Also, if you can afford an Oltre, I'm sure you can afford a race bike and a long distance bike!

    Yeah, but if you have an Oltre but can't afford an Oltre, you might not even be able to afford food!

    Sorry about that nice BSA. My vintage Dawes didn't get to rust through as it got written off by a blind driver. A bad time for characterful frames. Mind you, maybe I should use the Dawes as a justification to get a turbo!

    Why is it always the nice bikes that end up on the turbo? I wish I could still use my BSA - it's such a nice bike to ride :(

    Road - Dolan Preffisio
    MTB - On-One Inbred

    I have no idea what's going on here.
  • fujisst
    fujisst Posts: 17
    [quote="Garry H
    or someone that's chosen style over substance...[/quote]

    Ahhh, the statement I've been waiting for has finally manifested itself.

    To all those ankle-biters with respect to my bars and saddle, please take a hold of the above (sarcastic) statement and allow it to marinate on your brain for awhile. Substance > style. Performance trumps aesthetics all day and every day.

    Nonetheless, opinions are indeed an entitlement.
  • nweststeyn
    nweststeyn Posts: 1,574
    Assuming you're male (but still applies if you're female), performance does indeed trump aesthetics all day and every day... You are obviously not worried about the performance of your penis, because with a saddle like that your tubes are gonna get all mashed up.

    Anyhow, I don't much care how you set up your bike but I find it amusing how wound up you got when people criticised your bike... Its the internet, what do you expect? As soon as you got argumentative, people like us are just going to try and wind you up more. If you didn't care what people think, you wouldn't have posted a picture.
  • Dicky1986
    Dicky1986 Posts: 4
    I'm surprising that people are not being a bit more harsh. His bike is hideous. The little coloured flashes are enough to make an old alloy Colnago look elegant and refined. I must say I was pleased when I found out that Raleigh where getting some decent carbon frames on the go a while back, just like Peugeot as I have a few of both in the past. That alas, is a fairly bogging bike, unaided by its ludicrous saddle and bars combo.
  • limoneboy
    limoneboy Posts: 480
    fujisst wrote:
    [quote="Garry H
    or someone that's chosen style over substance...

    Ahhh, the statement I've been waiting for has finally manifested itself.

    To all those ankle-biters with respect to my bars and saddle, please take a hold of the above (sarcastic) statement and allow it to marinate on your brain for awhile. Substance > style. Performance trumps aesthetics all day and every day.

    Nonetheless, opinions are indeed an entitlement.[/quote]

    For Gods Sake just get a bike fitting ,show us your new set up and this will all stop :|
    last month wilier gt -this month ? bh rc1
  • fujisst
    fujisst Posts: 17
    nweststeyn wrote:
    Assuming you're male (but still applies if you're female), performance does indeed trump aesthetics all day and every day... You are obviously not worried about the performance of your penis, because with a saddle like that your tubes are gonna get all mashed up.

    Anyhow, I don't much care how you set up your bike but I find it amusing how wound up you got when people criticised your bike... Its the internet, what do you expect? As soon as you got argumentative, people like us are just going to try and wind you up more. If you didn't care what people think, you wouldn't have posted a picture.

    :mrgreen: I'm glad you were motivated.

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