Wiggins loses sideburns / wont ride the tour to win
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/others ... cling.html
good article about wiggins and froome in the telegraph. Appear to have quite a good working relationship in training, might be a bit different in race conditions when the pressure is on maybe?0 -
I really worry about Wiggins. He definitely has a screw loose or two.
Sky also need to sort their PR.
Wiggins is now saying he is going for the Giro Tour double. Where does that leave Froome?! Starting to feel sorry for him...Contador is the Greatest0 -
frenchfighter wrote:I really worry about Wiggins. He definitely has a screw loose or two.
Sky also need to sort their PR.
Wiggins is now saying he is going for the Giro Tour double. Where does that leave Froome?! Starting to feel sorry for him...
Was just about to post this http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/video-wiggins-ready-for-to-challenge-for-giro-tour-double
The whole Wiggins/Froome thing is becoming a bit of a mindf*ck/circus0 -
If they go toe to toe, I hope Froome destroys Wiggins.
Maybe he can join forces with Contador.Contador is the Greatest0 -
Porte. They're both going to be riding for Porte.0
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LeicesterLad wrote:frenchfighter wrote:I really worry about Wiggins. He definitely has a screw loose or two.
Sky also need to sort their PR.
Wiggins is now saying he is going for the Giro Tour double. Where does that leave Froome?! Starting to feel sorry for him...
Was just about to post this http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/video-wiggins-ready-for-to-challenge-for-giro-tour-double
The whole Wiggins/Froome thing is becoming a bit of a mindf*ck/circus
Yeah, and Sky wouldnt want that at all, would they
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ddraver wrote:Good - There is no reason for Sky to say diddly squat about who they re going to ride for at either race. Keep all the other competitors guessing right up until the start line
As long as thats all it is - tactical.
I used to think along the same lines but now i'm starting to wonder whether there is genuine competition/hostility between the two. Don't get me wrong though, A Badger/Lemond style rift during this years Tour would make excellent viewing!0 -
ddraver wrote:Good - There is no reason for Sky to say diddly squat about who they re going to ride for at either race. Keep all the other competitors guessing right up until the start line
How so? I really don't see it as some sort of tactical masterstroke by Sky.0 -
I wouldnt say masterstroke...but why tell Bertie/Nibali/Schlecky etc what sort of rider they might be facing this summer? There's just no point...
The only people that really give a monkeys are people that want to update their blog...We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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ddraver wrote:I wouldnt say masterstroke...but why tell Bertie/Nibali/Schlecky etc what sort of rider they might be facing this summer? There's just no point...
The only people that really give a monkeys are people that want to update their blog...
Really don't think Bertie/Nibali/Schlecky are to bothered. I'm sure they will pick their own targets for the season and won't matter who they are facing. What are they going to do differently if they know they will face Froome rather than Wiggins or vice versa?0 -
ddraver wrote:I wouldnt say masterstroke...but why tell Bertie/Nibali/Schlecky etc what sort of rider they might be facing this summer? There's just no point...
The only people that really give a monkeys are people that want to update their blog...
Ouch.
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in the interest of sanity (mine) and saving ddraver from falling into his own grave, here's the situation
- Froome wants to be leadz at the Tour
- Wiggo wants to be leadz at the Tour
- Froome's been told, prepare and train to be leadz - that's your primary focus for the year
- Wiggo's been told, prepare and train to peak for the Giro - which is your major GT goal for the year - but we're also gonna to help get you to a position where you can come out of the Giro and hold your form through to the Tour four weeks later
- If Froome puts in really good performances in the lead up to the Tour (and critically, doesnt get that bleeding bilharzia again), he's probably on for leadz with Wiggo as Plan B riding with him
- If Wiggo has another stormer in the run up to Jun, and Froome doesnt impress in the races and in his numbers...I reckon Wiggo may get the nod for leadz, and Froome is bridesmaid again
OF COURSE Wiggo's saying he'd love to do the double - he's a bloody bike racer at his peak for God's sake
I'm now going for a lie down
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What is 'leadz'.Contador is the Greatest0
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“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0
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Wiggins might think his 'numbers' may well be good enough to go for the TDF but given Froome's aspirations he ought to be keeping a lower profile.0
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The bit I don't get...if Wiggins/Sky are genuine about a crack at winning the Giro, why not include Froome in the Giro squad to ride for Wiggins?
Obviously the counter argument is that the TDF must be a priority also, but the idea of two potentially conflicting objectives just doesn't fit the SKY model.“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
TailWindHome wrote:
Did RR use all these zzz when she was a man?0 -
Shurrup. It was a momentary phase earlier this afternoon, that's all. Its now out of my system, and I'm back to normal.
TWH, the reason Sky arent having Froome do the Giro in support of Wiggins is because they want to try and win both GTs (I know, I know, but this is Brailsford ambition we're talking here).
So, IF they can bag the Giro with Wiggins, great, that's one in the bag - and if Bertie wins the Tour, at least Sky would still have the Giro win. They're experimenting training programme/performance-wise with trying to get Wiggins to level where he could conceivably win Giro AND be good enough to contest the Tour - even if that means being Plan B, AT LEAST being at the required level to contest it if Froome flops / crashes out.
Sky aren't going to risk getting it wrong with Tour Plan A by having Froome ride Giro first in support of Wiggins, only to end up with possibility of no Giro win and both GC guys for Tour wasted when it comes to the Grand Boucle.
Of course....they may end up with toot at the end of it all.0 -
There is also the argument that Froome will peak at the TdF and then hold his form for a crack at the Vuelta if he doesn't quite cut the mustard at the TdF. Despite Kerrigan's training plan Froome can't do all 3 GT's.0
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The funniest thing is that people on here - despite all the evidence provided by the last two years - still think the Sky gang are some bunch of loose cannons making it up as they go along.
Wiggo in particular is having the time of his life laying all sorts of false trails to the journos... none of whom are party to the real "2013 plans" discussions that have no doubt gone on behind closed doors in Manchester...
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