What to eat during long trainings

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  • springtide9
    springtide9 Posts: 1,731
    Ignore the "rules" - eat when your body needs energy.

    The fitter you are, the less you seem to need to eat from experience. It also depends on the person and the level of effort.

    If the ride is defined as a "Training ride", this does not give any indication of level of effort. i.e. it could be a 4 hr L1 or L2 effort, or a 4 hr L4/5 effort.
    Simon
  • springtide9
    springtide9 Posts: 1,731
    mclarent wrote:
    Before you leave and when you get home. Last Sunday I did 3hr50 on half a bottle of water and a coffee.

    ... but was that a hard or easy effort for you?
    Simon
  • mclarent
    mclarent Posts: 784
    edited February 2013
    A mix - IF was prob about .75 in the end? Couple of hundred TSS. I led the ride so spent most of the time on the front, pushing L3-5, and it was pretty windy at points. One of the guys was really suffering, so I stopped off for a coffee with him at Blackmore (after ~80k) so he could get some food ( :wink: ) and then span back into town, so last ~30k(?) L2-3. We also had a couple of mechanicals, so spent prob 25 minutes stood at the side of the road as well. I reckon I might have finished another 1/4 of my water if I hadn't stopped at Blackmore?
    "And the Lord said unto Cain, 'where is Abel thy brother?' And he said, 'I know not: I dropped him on the climb up to the motorway bridge'."
    - eccolafilosofiadelpedale
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    mclarent wrote:
    Before you leave and when you get home. Last Sunday I did 3hr50 on half a bottle of water and a coffee.

    so not 4 hours then ?
  • mclarent
    mclarent Posts: 784
    Imposter wrote:
    so not 4 hours then ?

    Wow, no fooling you.

    That was 3hrs50 moving time, fwiw.
    "And the Lord said unto Cain, 'where is Abel thy brother?' And he said, 'I know not: I dropped him on the climb up to the motorway bridge'."
    - eccolafilosofiadelpedale
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    mclarent wrote:
    Imposter wrote:
    so not 4 hours then ?

    Wow, no fooling you.

    That was 3hrs50 moving time, fwiw.

    Well, I'm just about staying with you so far. I asked 'what if your ride was 4+ hours', and you responded with a strava link to a ride of 3:50.
  • mclarent
    mclarent Posts: 784
    Well, my ride was 4hrs50, but moving time was 3hrs50... Depends if you count it like I do or my wife does...

    But anyway, here's one I did the week before with moving time of 4hrs50*. I had scrambled eggs on toast, lovely they were too.

    *linked my friends Strava cos I broke it into 2 files, "out and back", on my Garmin due to the cafe stop.
    "And the Lord said unto Cain, 'where is Abel thy brother?' And he said, 'I know not: I dropped him on the climb up to the motorway bridge'."
    - eccolafilosofiadelpedale
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    mclarent wrote:
    Well, my ride was 4hrs50, but moving time was 3hrs50... Depends if you count it like I do or my wife does...

    But anyway, here's one I did the week before with moving time of 4hrs50*. I had scrambled eggs on toast, lovely they were too.

    *linked my friends Strava cos I broke it into 2 files, "out and back", on my Garmin due to the cafe stop.

    That's great - especially the 'motorpacing' bit?
  • mclarent
    mclarent Posts: 784
    Imposter wrote:
    That's great - especially the 'motorpacing' bit?

    Guilty as charged yer honour... Hence the scrambled eggs ;)
    "And the Lord said unto Cain, 'where is Abel thy brother?' And he said, 'I know not: I dropped him on the climb up to the motorway bridge'."
    - eccolafilosofiadelpedale
  • springtide9
    springtide9 Posts: 1,731
    mclarent wrote:
    Imposter wrote:
    That's great - especially the 'motorpacing' bit?

    Guilty as charged yer honour... Hence the scrambled eggs ;)

    And an Ave HR of 124bpm .... so easy ride then I guess... :D
    Or was it just easy for your mate?
    Simon
  • mclarent wrote:
    Before you leave and when you get home. Last Sunday I did 3hr50 on half a bottle of water and a coffee.

    Personally, I've never quite seen the point of not eating when you are burning the energy, then eating afterwards when you're not.
  • mclarent
    mclarent Posts: 784
    And an Ave HR of 124bpm .... so easy ride then I guess... :D
    Or was it just easy for your mate?

    He has a max HR of 130 ;) Certainly wasn't easy for me! Tbf, I shared the front with another guy who's a ironman triathlete, national standard age-group, who would take over and drill it once I slowed... Which I appreciated as you can imagine... Seriously though, I'm sure I don't need to repeat the savings from sitting in, which is what Tom did apart from when we did some through-and-off on the way back*. He attacked us about 5km from home and rode off into the sunset. .. #legend
    Personally, I've never quite seen the point of not eating when you are burning the energy, then eating afterwards when you're not.

    Depends on whether you believe in depleted training, training your body to rely on stored energy etc... Eating when you get home is necessary to aid muscle repair / recovery blahblahblah. FWIW I just eat normal food unless I'm doing a split training day or training again <18 hours later (rule of thumb) in which case I often use a "product", mainly for convenience.

    *I just checked, and his heart-rate max out at 162 during that section, gotta love Strava.
    "And the Lord said unto Cain, 'where is Abel thy brother?' And he said, 'I know not: I dropped him on the climb up to the motorway bridge'."
    - eccolafilosofiadelpedale