Who makes whats where?
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My bike was brazed into life about ten miles from here. I don't know where the tubes were manufactured though*, and then there's the matter of where the ore was mined...
Provided the bloke who made it didn't spend any of the money I paid him on foreign imports, I can safely say I did my bit for Britain. Sniff.
*Edit: Seems they could have been manufactured in Birmingham.0 -
Calpol wrote:
This amazes me, where you think you have 2 completely different manufacturers, yet they are the same i.e. Giro and Bell0 -
Here's my take on it, when I wanted to buy a true Italian frame I bought a C59, made in Italy, designed in Italy, sprayed in Italy and originated from Italy using Japanese Carbon :-)
My CX-1 was built in the far east, don't really care where as long as it was designed by Colnago, the build quality is every bit as good as my C59 but was purchased under different circumstances and as far as I am aware was designed in Italy.
My Cervelo R5 was built in the far east, not sure where, but was designed in either Canada or the USA, quality of the build is rubbish in comparison to my Colnago's.
So you have the opposites, if the QC isn't in place then all countries can produce crap, my CX-1 knocks the spots off my R5 for build quality, but they are totally different frames.0 -
These days, it's easier to identify bikes not made in Taiwan / China than those made in Italy, USA or UK - apart from a small number of metal builders, you'll probably not find a non-far east frame on a bike costing less than £3k. Usually, 'built' means 'finished and assembled from a pile of parts made elsewhere'. There's even a distinction between manufacturers in Taiwan and those on the Chinese mainland. It's also worth considering whether the frame is a generic design or unique design to that manufacturer.Make mine an Italian, with Campagnolo on the side..0
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NapoleonD wrote:My Cervelo was hand made by French speaking Canadians in a secret Winnipeg bunker.
By a mountie riding a moose I assume...
I ride a bunch of Taiwanese frames. Doesn't bother me in the slightest.English Cycles V3 | Cervelo P5 | Cervelo T4 | Trek Domane Koppenberg0 -
Wilier have permanent Italian staff at the plant they use in the Far East overseeing production of their frames and forks (that were designed in Italy).0
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Christ! I never thought of that. I should've asked to see my guy's passport!0
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All the bullshit aside, it is very interesting to read this thread. I always knew Giant were a massive company and it is interesting to see who they build bikes for!
Love the difference in stickers on frames "hand built" and "hand crafted" its just like pub food, "home cooked" - warmed up out of a packet, "home made" - chef was in doing all the food prep and baking etc.
Little things eh?
My Canondale Supersix is clearly built in Taiwan/ China, I don't care. It rides well, was designed by someone who knew what they were doing and was built/ overseen by someone who clearly knows what they are doing.
Very interesting thread when you ignore the crap.0 -
I think the crap is the most interesting thing about this thread.
I care so much, it hurts.0 -
Back on track
Pretty sure that Time bikes are made, manufactured, designed in France. That's what the nice man on their stand at the bike show told me.
Some very nice frames.0