Who makes whats where?

the playing mantis
the playing mantis Posts: 2,129
edited January 2013 in Road general
DOes anyone have a list of bike 'brands' and where there products are actually made, assembled, painted.

People say they prefer itaalian bikes over cubes for example as they like the italian heritage, etc but in most cases the bikes are all made in the far east as far as i can tell bar maybe the high end stuff. so does anyone have somehting of a definitive list of the following or any others you care to think off. (i have obviosly left out cube and merdia as they are far east brands, as far as i am aware, and giant and spech also as i think they are all made in the far east?)

Bianchi
Colnago
Basso
Trek
Cinelli
De rosa
Look
Time
Felt
Canyon
Focus
Storck
Ridley
Cervelo
C'dale
Orbea
BH
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  • greasedscotsman
    greasedscotsman Posts: 6,962
    the playing mantis wrote:
    (i have obviosly left out cube and merdia as they are far east brands, as far as i am aware, and giant and spech also as i think they are all made in the far east?)

    Cube are German. No idea who makes their bikes though.
  • Strith
    Strith Posts: 541
    I don't think its as easy as that, different models are made in different plants. Take colnago, some bikes are/were made by Giant i Taiwan, whilst some are still made in italy.
  • greasedscotsman
    greasedscotsman Posts: 6,962
    Strith wrote:
    I don't think its as easy as that, different models are made in different plants. Take colnago, some bikes are/were made by Giant i Taiwan, whilst some are still made in italy.

    Same with Trek. Their top end frames are made in Wisconsin whereas the rest are made in the far east somewhere.
  • rolf_f
    rolf_f Posts: 16,015
    There is somewhere on the net a fairly old (maybe 5 years old) list of origins of bike frames by brand. It's a good start.
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  • thegreatdivide
    thegreatdivide Posts: 5,807
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  • Rodrego Hernandez
    Rodrego Hernandez Posts: 1,436
    Merida and Allianti probably make over 95% of all carbon frames.

    It would be easier to list which frames aren't made of the far east.
  • the playing mantis
    the playing mantis Posts: 2,129
    whoops i got cube and giant the wrong way round in my op...also realised i am dyslexic with all the spelling errors.

    i did search for that list on the net but with no luck. i also relaise it s complicated. maybe a simpler question would be which 'brands are not made in the far east whatsoever, regardless of high/low end models.

    im also interetsed to know where my look 566 is made, i assume far east.

    what baffles me, is if people dont like a thread, or think its been over done, dont bother wasting your time commenting on it. its not difficult is it?!
  • rolf_f
    rolf_f Posts: 16,015
    thegreatdivide wrote:
    [bangs head on wall icon]

    Why? It's a perfectly reasonable and interesting question and not so easy to find a current answer.
    the playing mantis wrote:
    im also interetsed to know where my look 566 is made, i assume far east.

    I believe so. The 566 came in around the time I bought my Look 585. The 566 clearly hit a slightly cheaper price bracket and the shop (Epic) told me they were made in the Far East. Pretty much all of the rest of the Look range is made in their wholly owned factory in Tunisia. I think they do still make frames in their French factory but mostly these are special runs.
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  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
    the playing mantis wrote:
    . maybe a simpler question would be which 'brands are not made in the far east whatsoever, regardless of high/low end models.
    just about none then.

    and even some of the "made in USA" actually start looking like a frame in the far east.
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  • thegreatdivide
    thegreatdivide Posts: 5,807
    Rolf F wrote:
    thegreatdivide wrote:
    [bangs head on wall icon]

    Why? It's a perfectly reasonable and interesting question and not so easy to find a current answer.

    Because I know where this thread is going...again.
  • Calpol
    Calpol Posts: 1,039
    Does this help

    http://inrng.com/who-makes-what/
  • rolf_f
    rolf_f Posts: 16,015
    thegreatdivide wrote:
    Rolf F wrote:
    thegreatdivide wrote:
    [bangs head on wall icon]

    Why? It's a perfectly reasonable and interesting question and not so easy to find a current answer.

    Because I know where this thread is going...again.

    Well it hasn't so far and if people stick to the point it won't!
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  • Careca
    Careca Posts: 95
    I think Orbea bikes are all still made in Spain and Portugal.
  • rolf_f
    rolf_f Posts: 16,015
    edited January 2013
    Calpol wrote:
    Does this help

    http://inrng.com/who-makes-what/

    No - it's more complicated than that; your link is about where companies are owned - not where their products are made. This is what I was referring to - it's four years old so more will have been outsourced by now. Not very complete either being focussed on brands available in the States.

    http://thebikestand.com/who-made-my-bike.html
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  • johnny25
    johnny25 Posts: 344
    "The Cannondale Bicycle Corporation, is an American division of Canadian conglomerate Dorel Industries that supplies bicycles. It is headquartered in Bethel, Connecticut with manufacturing and assembly facilities in China and Taichung, Taiwan."

    Hope this helps.

    Nice bikes.
  • hipshot
    hipshot Posts: 371
    If you have a Giant, Scott, Trek or a Colnago it was probably made here:

    giantfactory.png

    Interesting factory tour.

    http://www.canadiancyclist.com/races12/taiwan/parttwo/index.htm
  • CiB
    CiB Posts: 6,098
    You missed off BMC, who hand-make their own frames in Switzerland. Neat bikes.

    Course I'm only saying that cos I've got one. Everyone else can think they're tat. :)
  • simona75
    simona75 Posts: 336
    Careca wrote:
    I think Orbea bikes are all still made in Spain and Portugal.

    Think that's right. Mine proudly sports a "Made in Spain" decal (which is by no means a byword for quality!!)
  • smoggysteve
    smoggysteve Posts: 2,909
    Bianchi Sempre and Oltre frames made in Italy, rest are in Far East
  • smoggysteve
    smoggysteve Posts: 2,909
    Think Canyon frames are made in Germany still as when I passed the factory a few months back it is massive. Much bigger than just an assembly point and storage. Could be wrong though.
  • jotko
    jotko Posts: 457
    simona75 wrote:
    Careca wrote:
    I think Orbea bikes are all still made in Spain and Portugal.

    Think that's right. Mine proudly sports a "Made in Spain" decal (which is by no means a byword for quality!!)

    My carbon Cinelli has a 'Made in Taiwan' sticker on the bottom - at least they are honest :lol:
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  • Neale1978
    Neale1978 Posts: 484
    Who makes whats where?

    Who cares? GET OVER IT. The right companies still control how frames are made even if they are constructed in the east
  • Careca
    Careca Posts: 95
    Neale1978 wrote:
    Who makes whats where?

    Who cares? GET OVER IT. The right companies still control how frames are made even if they are constructed in the east

    I do. I quite like the fact that some companies provide employment in their own countries rather than doing everything in the far east.
  • Sussed out
    Sussed out Posts: 189
    simona75 wrote:
    Careca wrote:
    I think Orbea bikes are all still made in Spain and Portugal.

    Think that's right. Mine proudly sports a "Made in Spain" decal (which is by no means a byword for quality!!)

    The frames are made in the Far East then final painting/finishing is done in Spain. I was disappointed but not surprised when I found out.
  • napoleond
    napoleond Posts: 5,992
    My Cervelo was hand made by French speaking Canadians in a secret Winnipeg bunker.
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  • Flexisurfer
    Flexisurfer Posts: 249
    My 2002 aluminium Bottecchia was hand made in Italy however my 2013 Allez most deffinately had "made in Taiwan" on a sticker.
  • Careca
    Careca Posts: 95
    Sussed out wrote:
    simona75 wrote:
    Careca wrote:
    I think Orbea bikes are all still made in Spain and Portugal.

    Think that's right. Mine proudly sports a "Made in Spain" decal (which is by no means a byword for quality!!)

    The frames are made in the Far East then final painting/finishing is done in Spain. I was disappointed but not surprised when I found out.

    That's a bit cheeky. Reminds me of a brand that used to have 'hand built in Britain' stickers on them, but they forgot to add that a box of bits were sent from the far east, and then put together here!

    But yeah, Orbea are made in China!

    http://www.bicyclingnewsasia.com/en/fea ... ur-kunshan
  • YIMan
    YIMan Posts: 576
    Neale1978 wrote:
    Who makes whats where?

    Who cares? GET OVER IT. The right companies still control how frames are made even if they are constructed in the east

    I do too. I love the fact that my mountain bikes is designed and manufactured in the UK.

    Why do you care that other people care is the question? If you don't care....fine....move on and add something constructive to another thread.
  • MattC59
    MattC59 Posts: 5,408
    Mine was made in England :D
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  • smidsy
    smidsy Posts: 5,273
    Careca wrote:
    Reminds me of a brand that used to have 'hand built in Britain' stickers on them, but they forgot to add that

    That is WHY it said hand built in Britain, other wise it would have said hand made in Britain. Nothing wrong with their statement merely your understanding :wink:


    My Cannondale is handmade in USA and my Basso is Hand Made in Italy. 8)
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