Oprah&Lance - Will you watch live?

greasedscotsman

Tusher wrote:

I have spent a most pleasant few months reading of the downfall of The Texan from afar, but alas, by the time I had caught up on 7,000 posts, there was nothing I could add to the intellectual debate.

Intellectual? Which thread was that again?

Bakunin

Living in the land of the lost -- I'm watching it with a number of cyclists. We'll be drinking Boddingtons and laughing. Nice to hear that Oprah did some work -- the follow ups will be key.

dsoutar

ThomThom wrote:

dsoutar wrote:

I can't think of anything that encapsulates a complete f**king waste of time more thasn this charade does

So no, I won't be watching or franctically logging on the morning after

Of course you wont... :roll: Yet, you first page of replies are like 40% Lance Armstrong oriented.. That's a lot for a thing that is a f'ucking waste of time.

As opposed to you who by your output seems to be consumed by this. It's obviously a big feature in your life so I understand entirely why you might want to watch it live.

Enjoy !

dmclite-3.0

So he doped, so what.

Almost every contender or significant rider of that era doped, strip all of them of all victories, nope, just the one. Some got caught and dealt with, but LA was victimized due to the level of his success, he got greedy and paid the price.

His first book got me on my bike and into cycling, but I dont hate Eddy Merckx, Coppi, Simpson and they all doped, I just accept it is part and parcel of cycling. Merckx's nickname was "The Cannibal", single minded, rode over everyone and is still revered, go figure.

nathancom

Ok, so you posted that exact post in the other thread.

He destroyed lives, he exploited cancer sufferers and charity donators based on a lie, he took so much synthetic EPO that his body stopped producing its own natural supply (http://bicycling.com/blogs/boulderreport/2013/01/09/not-a-comfy-couch/). His doping took things to a whole new level that makes him the incomparable doper and yet people still defend him with the line "everyone did it". Well they didn't and just when cycling had the chance to go clean (Festina Affair) he took it up a notch.

I guess you think city bankers ripping everyone off are not that bad because they are all at it. Well they are all culpable just as he is culpable for cheating his way to success that is not rightfully his. Sport isn't morally inert and thankfully LA has finally held to account.

dynamicbrick

It isn't so much that he doped that gets my goat - after all, nobody is claiming cycling was ever clean.

It's the fact he denied it for so long, believing himself to be bigger than the sport. You look at all the other dopers - get caught, suspended/ban, either comeback clean (Basso, Millar), or simply vanish. It's also the fact he systematically destroyed anyone who ever went against him (Kimmage, Lemond, O'Reilly).

And as per nathancom - This wasn't a man who just doped to stay competitive. This wasn't a man who just doped to win. This was a man who doped to utterly dominate the sport, the people around him, the governing body, the lot... then pretends the whole world is trying to stitch him up.

As I said originally in this thread, I rather fear this is going to be a Bashir-Princess Di soft focus effort which cause more problems than it solves.

mididoctors

TailWindHome wrote:

Will you be staying up to watch live?

No

Le Commentateur

For the Lance party-ers:
http://drunkcyclist.com/2013/01/16/the- ... king-game/

Ron Stuart

2fast748 wrote:

I shan't be watching "live" but as the press are reporting (and Oprah is tweeting) the interview appears to have taken place so why did they bill it as live?

Cos they are a lying, cheating, ego maniacal bunch of self involved, threatening, single minded, don't do better than me Bertie, Bastards.

In other words same as the Police investigating the Police :twisted:

ShutUpLegs

Is it on freeview or only available to morons who pay money for sky tv?

secretsqirrel

If somebody is going to stay up/get up early to watch it, please could they open a *Spoiler* thread. I quite like 2nd hand accounts and observations. I can decide then whether it's worth watching the recording

Can you tell I'm missing the racing

Le Commentateur

Milking it.

Oprah and Lance Armstrong: The Worldwide Exclusive, has expanded to air as a two-night event. Tune in Thursday, January 17, from 9 to 10:30 p.m. ET/PT and Friday, January 18, at 9 p.m. ET/PT. The interview will be simultaneously streamed LIVE worldwide both nights on Oprah.com.

dmclite-3.0

nathancom wrote:

Ok, so you posted that exact post in the other thread.

He destroyed lives, he exploited cancer sufferers and charity donators based on a lie, he took so much synthetic EPO that his body stopped producing its own natural supply (http://bicycling.com/blogs/boulderreport/2013/01/09/not-a-comfy-couch/). His doping took things to a whole new level that makes him the incomparable doper and yet people still defend him with the line "everyone did it". Well they didn't and just when cycling had the chance to go clean (Festina Affair) he took it up a notch.

I guess you think city bankers ripping everyone off are not that bad because they are all at it. Well they are all culpable just as he is culpable for cheating his way to success that is not rightfully his. Sport isn't morally inert and thankfully LA has finally held to account.

The post was relevant to 2 threads, so ?

I had testicular cancer in 2006, read his book and when better got on a bike and haven't looked back since. The level of vitriol aimed at people who have a different view from yourself is worrying. I am allowed to think differently and not jump on the bandwagon of hate.

City bankers on the other hand I detest, they do ruin lives, not some berk who took drugs to win bike races. get some perspective along with some manners and stop toadying to the majority, try and be objective.

thomthom

Okay, we try again, dmclite-3.0...

moltryn wrote:

It's not quite that he 'doped', he duped as well.. extensively, throughout all of his 'career'. LA's 'victimisation' as you put it, is down to a little more than his success (now stripped from him) or his greed (which may also be stripped if he is made to pay a price for it). He lied, lied and lied repeatedly with outrage and vitriol when accused of violating the rules - even while he knew he was guilty, and denounced, ridiculed, attacked, ruined careers, and sued those that remotely implied that he was perhaps 'not above board'. Merckx, Coppi, Simpson et al certainly doped too, but they certainly didn't do what LA did whilst earning tens of millions of dollars at the expense of others. As Lance (blatantly?) put it himself, it's not about the bike!

And moltryn is being polite here.

dmclite-3.0

ThomThom wrote:

Okay, we try again, dmclite-3.0...

moltryn wrote:

It's not quite that he 'doped', he duped as well.. extensively, throughout all of his 'career'. LA's 'victimisation' as you put it, is down to a little more than his success (now stripped from him) or his greed (which may also be stripped if he is made to pay a price for it). He lied, lied and lied repeatedly with outrage and vitriol when accused of violating the rules - even while he knew he was guilty, and denounced, ridiculed, attacked, ruined careers, and sued those that remotely implied that he was perhaps 'not above board'. Merckx, Coppi, Simpson et al certainly doped too, but they certainly didn't do what LA did whilst earning tens of millions of dollars at the expense of others. As Lance (blatantly?) put it himself, it's not about the bike!

And moltryn is being polite here.

You can keep on and on, my opinion, understanding and conclusion is done. You have your view, I have mine, you're not going to change that. My life changed for the better once my cancer was cured, remission hasn't been easy but I am a long way down the road now, that is not meant to invoke any sympathy from you, I am just showing my ideals and perspective will be different . Whatever you think of LA, I am not trying to change your mind, just realise my view is different to yours and thats all there is to it.
The world would be a very boring place if we all thought the same, wouldn't it ?

Le Commentateur

Accidently stumbled on this while looking for porn.

http://ownspecial.oprah.com/lancearmstrong.html

k-dog

Le Commentateur wrote:

Accidently stumbled on this while looking for porn.

http://ownspecial.oprah.com/lancearmstrong.html

I hate to think what you were looking for if that was the result!

nathancom

dmclite-3.0 wrote:

nathancom wrote:

Ok, so you posted that exact post in the other thread.

He destroyed lives, he exploited cancer sufferers and charity donators based on a lie, he took so much synthetic EPO that his body stopped producing its own natural supply (http://bicycling.com/blogs/boulderreport/2013/01/09/not-a-comfy-couch/). His doping took things to a whole new level that makes him the incomparable doper and yet people still defend him with the line "everyone did it". Well they didn't and just when cycling had the chance to go clean (Festina Affair) he took it up a notch.

I guess you think city bankers ripping everyone off are not that bad because they are all at it. Well they are all culpable just as he is culpable for cheating his way to success that is not rightfully his. Sport isn't morally inert and thankfully LA has finally held to account.

The post was relevant to 2 threads, so ?

I had testicular cancer in 2006, read his book and when better got on a bike and haven't looked back since. The level of vitriol aimed at people who have a different view from yourself is worrying. I am allowed to think differently and not jump on the bandwagon of hate.

City bankers on the other hand I detest, they do ruin lives, not some berk who took drugs to win bike races. get some perspective along with some manners and stop toadying to the majority, try and be objective.

Except he has now admitted he has ruined plenty of lives by his bullying. Still it didn't affect you so who gives a f*ck, right?

Lightning

Does anyone know where can I find this online? It was too late for me and it didn't air in my country so I couldn't record it.

blazing_saddles

Should fulfil for those of us not bothering to watch.
Apparently, we did miss one Q+A show that sounds like it was worth watching.

http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/0 ... interview/

Ron Stuart

Lightning wrote:

Does anyone know where can I find this online? It was too late for me and it didn't air in my country so I couldn't record it.

Yep here....

dmclite-3.0

nathancom wrote:

dmclite-3.0 wrote:

nathancom wrote:

Ok, so you posted that exact post in the other thread.

He destroyed lives, he exploited cancer sufferers and charity donators based on a lie, he took so much synthetic EPO that his body stopped producing its own natural supply (http://bicycling.com/blogs/boulderreport/2013/01/09/not-a-comfy-couch/). His doping took things to a whole new level that makes him the incomparable doper and yet people still defend him with the line "everyone did it". Well they didn't and just when cycling had the chance to go clean (Festina Affair) he took it up a notch.

I guess you think city bankers ripping everyone off are not that bad because they are all at it. Well they are all culpable just as he is culpable for cheating his way to success that is not rightfully his. Sport isn't morally inert and thankfully LA has finally held to account.

The post was relevant to 2 threads, so ?

I had testicular cancer in 2006, read his book and when better got on a bike and haven't looked back since. The level of vitriol aimed at people who have a different view from yourself is worrying. I am allowed to think differently and not jump on the bandwagon of hate.

City bankers on the other hand I detest, they do ruin lives, not some berk who took drugs to win bike races. get some perspective along with some manners and stop toadying to the majority, try and be objective.

Except he has now admitted he has ruined plenty of lives by his bullying. Still it didn't affect you so who gives a f*ck, right?

Such a caring poster, get yourself down to the local shelter and dish out some more sanctimonius bullshite to anyone who makes the mistake of paying you an atom of attention.