Richmond Park 3-lap Challenge 2013

Copied from last year's thread:
We understand the Royal Parks and the police are receiving an increasing number of complaints about inconsiderate cyclists in Richmond Park. Pedestrians for whom cyclists will not stop, and motorists who are overtaken in “close call” situations complain about how reckless cyclists can sometimes be. We're not accusing anyone here of doing so, but please be mindful of this when you are attempting a fast lap. If you encounter traffic or pedestrians/deer near to the road, do not take risks. Abort and if necessary start again or visit when there is less traffic. The last thing we want to see is traffic calming measures introduced into the park. Thank you for your understanding.
Guidelines:
1. 3 continuous laps of RP, anti- or clock-wise (or a mixture), with the general view that anti is easier/safer.
2. Start, rolling or standing, where you like and finish at the same place.
3. KEEP IT SAFE. Squeezing through that gap might make all the difference in beating your PB, but far better you live to fight another day and improve even more. In the red mist of the 3rd lap it is VERY easy to forget this and indeed to annoy the hell out of other RP users. To this end, attempts are best made very early at the weekend, mid-morning/mid-afternoon during the week and just before dusk.
4. Given '3' above, feel free to comment on the traffic, suicidal deer or even the horrendous westerly. The reader can adjust his/her impression of the time and it might dissuade you from roundabout madness.
5. Most of us try to avoid drafting. You might not be able to help it in traffic, but you'll be losing more from the traffic than you're gaining anyway.
6. In the entry feel free to mention : your bike (TT/shopper etc), your weight (seems to be a tradition) and even your 'type of rider' (sportive, racer, audax, tri) - it's becoming a tradition to add your power data here also/instead; and, in the text, perhaps your aim for the year .
7. Please add your post to the previous list, and try to make sure you use the most recent list, so we don't lose entries. Remove your old entry and put your new one in time order, emboldened for easy viewing.
So, here is my entry to start off the list. It was a ride of 6 steady laps, so thought I'd start the thread and put my fastest 3 consecutive laps up. Individual laps were 17:56 245W, 18:20 239W, 18:07 240W.
TarmacExpert......anti......70kg.....54:23......Jan........TTer........AP241W.NP255W.training TT bike
We understand the Royal Parks and the police are receiving an increasing number of complaints about inconsiderate cyclists in Richmond Park. Pedestrians for whom cyclists will not stop, and motorists who are overtaken in “close call” situations complain about how reckless cyclists can sometimes be. We're not accusing anyone here of doing so, but please be mindful of this when you are attempting a fast lap. If you encounter traffic or pedestrians/deer near to the road, do not take risks. Abort and if necessary start again or visit when there is less traffic. The last thing we want to see is traffic calming measures introduced into the park. Thank you for your understanding.
Guidelines:
1. 3 continuous laps of RP, anti- or clock-wise (or a mixture), with the general view that anti is easier/safer.
2. Start, rolling or standing, where you like and finish at the same place.
3. KEEP IT SAFE. Squeezing through that gap might make all the difference in beating your PB, but far better you live to fight another day and improve even more. In the red mist of the 3rd lap it is VERY easy to forget this and indeed to annoy the hell out of other RP users. To this end, attempts are best made very early at the weekend, mid-morning/mid-afternoon during the week and just before dusk.
4. Given '3' above, feel free to comment on the traffic, suicidal deer or even the horrendous westerly. The reader can adjust his/her impression of the time and it might dissuade you from roundabout madness.
5. Most of us try to avoid drafting. You might not be able to help it in traffic, but you'll be losing more from the traffic than you're gaining anyway.
6. In the entry feel free to mention : your bike (TT/shopper etc), your weight (seems to be a tradition) and even your 'type of rider' (sportive, racer, audax, tri) - it's becoming a tradition to add your power data here also/instead; and, in the text, perhaps your aim for the year .
7. Please add your post to the previous list, and try to make sure you use the most recent list, so we don't lose entries. Remove your old entry and put your new one in time order, emboldened for easy viewing.
So, here is my entry to start off the list. It was a ride of 6 steady laps, so thought I'd start the thread and put my fastest 3 consecutive laps up. Individual laps were 17:56 245W, 18:20 239W, 18:07 240W.
TarmacExpert......anti......70kg.....54:23......Jan........TTer........AP241W.NP255W.training TT bike
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TarmacExpert......anti......70kg.......54:23......Jan........TTer........AP241W.NP255W.training TT bike
Strith....................anti......81kg.....1:05.08.....Jan........Mtbr........steel winter beater
TarmacExpert......anti......70kg.......54:23......Jan........TTer........AP241W.NP255W.training TT bike
Strith....................anti......81kg.....1:05.08.....Jan........Mtbr........steel winter beater
marcusjb................anti......61kg.....1:11:40.....jan........audaxer....67" fixed
Cube Attain
Broomfield okay really - it was a little slippy, so I did use the brakes a little before the bend. Was only hitting about 45kph on the downhill (somewhere around 150 cadence on 67"). Wind was the biggest issue (as ever!).
TarmacExpert......anti......70kg.......54:23......Jan........TTer........AP241W.NP255W.training TT bike
Okgo.................mixture....78kg......1:00:24...Jan.......cat 2 road....ap 245w road bike
Strith....................anti......81kg.....1:05.08.....Jan........Mtbr........steel winter beater
marcusjb................anti......61kg.....1:11:40.....jan........audaxer....67" fixed
TarmacExpert......anti......70kg.......54:23......Jan........TTer........AP241W.NP255W.training TT bike
Okgo.................mixture....78kg......1:00:24...Jan.......cat 2 road....ap 245w road bike
Strith....................anti......81kg.....1:05.08.....Jan........Mtbr........steel winter beater
marcusjb................anti......61kg.....1:10:04.....feb........audaxer....67" fixed
TarmacExpert......anti......70kg.......54:23......Jan........TTer........AP241W.NP255W.training TT bike
Okgo.................mixture....78kg......1:00:24...Jan.......cat 2 road....ap 245w road bike
Philbar72................anti......82kg.....1:02:49.....feb......Training..BMC Strith....................anti......81kg.....1:05.08.....Jan........Mtbr........steel winter beater
marcusjb................anti......61kg.....1:10:04.....feb........audaxer....67" fixed
TarmacExpert......anti......70kg.......54:23......Jan........TTer........AP241W.NP255W.training TT bike
Okgo.................mixture....78kg......1:00:24...Jan.......cat 2 road....ap 245w road bike
Philbar72................anti......82kg.....1:02:49.....feb......Training..BMC Strith....................anti......81kg.....1:05.08.....Jan........Mtbr........steel winter beater
marcusjb................anti......61kg.....1:08:58.....feb........audaxer....67" fixed
TarmacExpert......anti......70kg.......54:23......Jan........TTer........AP241W.NP255W.training TT bike
Okgo.................mixture....78kg......1:00:24...Jan.......cat 2 road....ap 245w road bike
Philbar72................anti......82kg.....1:02:49.....feb......Training..BMC Strith....................anti......81kg.....1:05.08.....Jan........Mtbr........steel winter beater
marcusjb................anti......61kg.....1:08:43.....feb........audaxer....67" fixed
Okgo....................mixture....78kg......1:00:24....Jan.........cat 2 road...........ap 245w road bike
Philbar72..............anti.........82kg.....1:02:49.....feb........Training..............BMC Strith....................anti.........81kg.....1:05.08.....Jan........Mtbr....................steel winter beater
pangolin..............anti.........98kg......1:07.37.....Feb.......commute/audax....road bike
marcusjb..............anti........61kg......1:08:43.....feb........audaxer................67" fixed
Slow laps on Sunday with loooots of people in the Park.
Cube Attain
TarmacExpert........anti.........70kg.......54:23......Jan........TTer...................AP241W.NP255W.training TT bike
Okgo....................mixture....78kg......1:00:24....Jan.........cat 2 road...........ap 245w road bike
Philbar72..............anti.........82kg.....1:02:49.....feb........Training..............BMC
MoscowFlyer.......anti........80kg......1:04:43.....Feb........Training...............Cube road bike
Strith....................anti.........81kg.....1:05.08.....Jan........Mtbr....................steel winter beater
pangolin..............anti.........98kg......1:07.37.....Feb.......commute/audax....road bike
marcusjb..............anti........61kg......1:08:43.....feb........audaxer................67" fixed
TarmacExpert........anti.........70kg.......54:23......Jan........TTer...................AP241W.NP255W.training TT bike
Okgo....................mixture....78kg......1:00:24....Jan.........cat 2 road...........ap 245w road bike
Philbar72..............anti.........82kg.....1:02:49.....feb........Training..............BMC
marcusjb.............anti.........61kg......1:04:31.....Fec........audaxer.............geared bike
MoscowFlyer.......anti........80kg......1:04:43.....Feb........Training...............Cube road bike
Strith....................anti.........81kg.....1:05.08.....Jan........Mtbr....................steel winter beater
pangolin..............anti.........98kg......1:07.37.....Feb.......commute/audax....road bike
marcusjb..............anti........61kg......1:08:43.....feb........audaxer................67" fixed
Hoping to get sub 60 minutes but my speed endurance is pants.
Okgo....................mixture....78kg......1:00:24....Jan.........cat 2 road...........ap 245w road bike
Philbar72..............anti.........82kg.....1:02:49.....feb........Training..............BMC
marcusjb.............anti.........61kg......1:04:31.....Fec........audaxer.............geared bike
MoscowFlyer.......anti........80kg......1:04:43.....Feb........Training...............Cube road bike
Strith....................anti.........81kg.....1:05.08.....Jan........Mtbr....................steel winter beater
pangolin..............anti.........98kg......1:07.37.....Feb.......commute/audax....road bike
marcusjb..............anti........61kg......1:08:43.....feb........audaxer................67" fixed
JibberJim.............anti........72kg.......1:10:40.....mar.......Still Ex Club run hero... AP 281w.NP304w.
Slightly disappointing time, managed under 67 last year, and this time I took out my road bike (previously always done it on cyclocross with my road wheels) and I'm 3kg's lighter. Not a great run for traffic on a sunday morning but I still put out 20w less (although only 10w less NP) Of course that was a summer time last year, so the temp may have helped slow me more today.
Okgo....................mixture....78kg......1:00:24....Jan.........cat 2 road...........ap 245w road bike
Philbar72..............anti.........82kg.....1:02:49.....feb........Training..............BMC
Strith....................anti.........79kg.....1:04.00.....Feb........Mtbr....................road bike
marcusjb.............anti.........61kg......1:04:31.....Fec........audaxer.............geared bike
MoscowFlyer.......anti........80kg......1:04:43.....Feb........Training...............Cube road bike
pangolin..............anti.........98kg......1:07.37.....Feb.......commute/audax....road bike
marcusjb..............anti........61kg......1:08:43.....feb........audaxer................67" fixed
JibberJim.............anti........72kg.......1:10:40.....mar.......Still Ex Club run hero... AP 281w.NP304w.
Last week, dropped 2kg since last attempt too. Took out road bike this time but only managed one sub 20 lap, lots of traffic on other laps. Some little 5 year old brat threw a rock at me, it missed my head by inches, his mum gave him one hell of a wollop.
Roll on those 6am windless summer laps.....
It's not super sketchy (as long as it's dry) - I've been twice this last week and it's been okay. I have a little less trust in tyres for a few hundred metres, once they've gone through a load of dirt. But if that construction carries on and it rains, it will be a bit sketchy, so be careful!
Okgo....................mixture....78kg......1:00:24....Jan.........cat 2 road...........ap 245w road bike
Philbar72..............anti.........82kg.....1:02:49.....feb........Training..............BMC
Strith....................anti.........79kg.....1:04.00.....Feb........Mtbr....................road bike
marcusjb.............anti.........61kg......1:04:31.....Fec........audaxer.............geared bike
MoscowFlyer.......anti........80kg......1:04:43.....Feb........Training...............Cube road bike
pangolin..............anti.........98kg......1:07.37.....Feb.......commute/audax....road bike
marcusjb..............anti........61kg......1:08:43.....feb........audaxer................67" fixed
JibberJim.............anti........72kg.......1:10:40.....mar.......Still Ex Club run hero... AP 281w.NP304w.
Cyclingprop..........anti.......120kg.......1:06:10.....Jan.....Heavy ........ Trek Road bike
TarmacExpert........anti.........70kg.......54:23......Jan........TTer................AP241W.NP255W.training TT bike
IP.......................Anti.........71kg......54:39........Mar........RAID Training........... road bike
Okgo....................mixture....78kg......1:00:24....Jan.........cat 2 road...........ap 245w road bike
Philbar72..............anti.........82kg.....1:02:49.....feb........Training..............BMC
Strith....................anti.........79kg.....1:04.00.....Feb........Mtbr....................road bike
marcusjb.............anti.........61kg......1:04:31.....Fec........audaxer.............geared bike
MoscowFlyer.......anti........80kg......1:04:43.....Feb........Training...............Cube road bike
pangolin..............anti.........98kg......1:07.37.....Feb.......commute/audax....road bike
marcusjb..............anti........61kg......1:08:43.....feb........audaxer................67" fixed
JibberJim.............anti........72kg.......1:10:40.....mar.......Still Ex Club run hero... AP 281w.NP304w.
Cyclingprop..........anti.......120kg.......1:06:10.....Jan.....Heavy ........ Trek Road bike
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You willingly provide your times for an arbitrary course in the name of a bit of fun, then provide excuses for why your time isn't fast enough. How insecure are you?
Here is a selection of the excuses already given:
"It was a ride of 6 steady laps"
"Weather was too cold to get the hr up"
"very windy and whilst there were not many cars, those that were there were queuing to get into very full carparks to go sledging"
"it was a little slippy, so I did use the brakes a little before the bend"
"Chilly, wet laps just as it was going dark... Legs felt like lead after a long commute with hefty panniers yesterday"
"Dark laps, but all good fun apart from the deer crossing on lap 3"
"loooots of people in the Park"
"took it easy on the first lap"
"it was quite traffic heavy (just as the sun was setting, so people trying to get home through the park before the gates are locked)"
"Not a great run for traffic on a sunday morning... the temp may have helped slow me"
"lots of traffic on other laps. Some little 5 year old brat threw a rock at me"
But the prize goes to Il Principe for this gem:
"Immediately ruined by traffic for the first half lap. Then slowed by deer crossing twice (which is a first for me), once on lap 2 descent of Broomfield and once on lap 3 run up to Sawyers, traffic again on lap 3 as well. Times are from Garmin, Strava would have me at 54:20 I think. Traffic cost me around minute on lap 1."
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It's not me crying about traffic and deer in front on an anonymous messageboard
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That's pretty much it. It's a bit of fun around a known distance. As Il Principe said, it's a bit of context. For me I hope I can look back through the year as we progress through the season and hopefully get quicker. It's a generally friendly, encouraging thread with a bit of banter about conditions of the ride.
Come summer, you won't be hearing excuses, just tales of early morning clear runs and my sub 50 minute performances........;)