Seemingly trivial things that cheer you up

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  • morstar
    morstar Posts: 6,190
    pblakeney said:

    morstar said:

    So, the BBC has become increasingly a toothless government patsy of late.

    Finally, they are starting to find new ways to tackle the government pressure despite the lack of heavyweight journalists.

    Naga fact checking government figures this morning and simply pointing out the lies / creative accounting.

    Your first sentence is at complete odds with the other two.
    Clarification is required.
    Are they at odds?

    There has been a trajectory of becoming more toothless. A Tory implant at the top, programmes cancelled and talent loss with many veiled references to regaining their integrity in their departing letters.

    They struggle to tackle Tory ministers with heavyweight interviews.

    Today, they used a different tactic very effectively that is counter to the direction of travel and despite the ongoing efforts at media control.

    The BBC is a large organisation, it can become a toothless patsy without every individual being one. If there is much less critical content than before, it can have become more toothless despite more isolated efforts to the contrary.
  • morstar
    morstar Posts: 6,190
    Pross said:

    morstar said:

    So, the BBC has become increasingly a toothless government patsy of late.

    Finally, they are starting to find new ways to tackle the government pressure despite the lack of heavyweight journalists.

    Naga fact checking government figures this morning and simply pointing out the lies / creative accounting.

    Thought that was pretty good, it was something that seemed to start with Trump and a bit worrying that we now have to do it with out own politicians. I've always wondered why there isn't more of that when you have two sides using the same numbers to try to claim different points.

    I think they should also fact check the one nurse they had on just before that who claimed her take home pay now is £100 more than it was on a 2007 pay slip she found despite having being promoted to matron in that time. Assuming all other things are equal e.g. no increase in payments into a pension, changes to hours etc. I find that incredibly difficult to believe. This calculator suggests that just the step up from Band 7 to Band 8a (which I believe is the start of the matron grade) would lead to an increase in take-home pay of over £300 per month without any other pay increases over the previous 15 years https://www.nurses.co.uk/careers-hub/nhs-pay-calculator/ . The top of Band 7 from November 2007 was apparently £37,326 against the £47,672 used in that calculator. I appreciate things like tax and NI may have changed over time but I'm really struggling to see how she came up with that number. Just the increase on Band 7 over that time should have increased take-home by more than £500.
    Good analysis and I agree about the matrons take home pay complaint. I was wondering the same regarding what had driven her numbers but did not doing any of the workings you did.

    I suspect she is in that awkward place of being OK off due to high salary but has nevertheless seen a real slump in available income so not the best example of poverty line nurses. But still a legitimate greivance clouded by a difficult to reconcile claim.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    morstar said:

    Pross said:

    morstar said:

    So, the BBC has become increasingly a toothless government patsy of late.

    Finally, they are starting to find new ways to tackle the government pressure despite the lack of heavyweight journalists.

    Naga fact checking government figures this morning and simply pointing out the lies / creative accounting.

    Thought that was pretty good, it was something that seemed to start with Trump and a bit worrying that we now have to do it with out own politicians. I've always wondered why there isn't more of that when you have two sides using the same numbers to try to claim different points.

    I think they should also fact check the one nurse they had on just before that who claimed her take home pay now is £100 more than it was on a 2007 pay slip she found despite having being promoted to matron in that time. Assuming all other things are equal e.g. no increase in payments into a pension, changes to hours etc. I find that incredibly difficult to believe. This calculator suggests that just the step up from Band 7 to Band 8a (which I believe is the start of the matron grade) would lead to an increase in take-home pay of over £300 per month without any other pay increases over the previous 15 years https://www.nurses.co.uk/careers-hub/nhs-pay-calculator/ . The top of Band 7 from November 2007 was apparently £37,326 against the £47,672 used in that calculator. I appreciate things like tax and NI may have changed over time but I'm really struggling to see how she came up with that number. Just the increase on Band 7 over that time should have increased take-home by more than £500.
    Good analysis and I agree about the matrons take home pay complaint. I was wondering the same regarding what had driven her numbers but did not doing any of the workings you did.

    I suspect she is in that awkward place of being OK off due to high salary but has nevertheless seen a real slump in available income so not the best example of poverty line nurses. But still a legitimate greivance clouded by a difficult to reconcile claim.
    Yeah, for me it fell into the camp of doing your legitimate grievances no good by saying something that seemed to be so obviously unlikely to be true.
  • pblakeney
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    morstar said:

    pblakeney said:

    morstar said:

    So, the BBC has become increasingly a toothless government patsy of late.

    Finally, they are starting to find new ways to tackle the government pressure despite the lack of heavyweight journalists.

    Naga fact checking government figures this morning and simply pointing out the lies / creative accounting.

    Your first sentence is at complete odds with the other two.
    Clarification is required.
    Are they at odds?

    ...
    A bit of a mixture between confusion and reading error. I didn't see how you can be a "patsy" and "find new ways to tackle the government pressure".
    Reading "Naga" as slang for "no". My mistake. Then realising that it is the u-turn that cheers you.
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  • morstar
    morstar Posts: 6,190
    pblakeney said:

    morstar said:

    pblakeney said:

    morstar said:

    So, the BBC has become increasingly a toothless government patsy of late.

    Finally, they are starting to find new ways to tackle the government pressure despite the lack of heavyweight journalists.

    Naga fact checking government figures this morning and simply pointing out the lies / creative accounting.

    Your first sentence is at complete odds with the other two.
    Clarification is required.
    Are they at odds?

    ...
    A bit of a mixture between confusion and reading error. I didn't see how you can be a "patsy" and "find new ways to tackle the government pressure".
    Reading "Naga" as slang for "no". My mistake. Then realising that it is the u-turn that cheers you.
    No worries. A lesson to try and be more clear in my posting.
  • ddraver
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  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,374
    morstar said:

    pblakeney said:

    morstar said:

    pblakeney said:

    morstar said:

    So, the BBC has become increasingly a toothless government patsy of late.

    Finally, they are starting to find new ways to tackle the government pressure despite the lack of heavyweight journalists.

    Naga fact checking government figures this morning and simply pointing out the lies / creative accounting.

    Your first sentence is at complete odds with the other two.
    Clarification is required.
    Are they at odds?

    ...
    A bit of a mixture between confusion and reading error. I didn't see how you can be a "patsy" and "find new ways to tackle the government pressure".
    Reading "Naga" as slang for "no". My mistake. Then realising that it is the u-turn that cheers you.
    No worries. A lesson to try and be more clear in my posting.

    Must admit I had to read it twice. I once I worked out what you were saying, it made sense, and I agree with you. If that makes sense.

    They all need to take a page out of Krishnan Guru-Murthy's book (though maybe not including getting caught on the mic with the fruitier opinion of Steve Baker).
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,327

    morstar said:

    pblakeney said:

    morstar said:

    pblakeney said:

    morstar said:

    So, the BBC has become increasingly a toothless government patsy of late.

    Finally, they are starting to find new ways to tackle the government pressure despite the lack of heavyweight journalists.

    Naga fact checking government figures this morning and simply pointing out the lies / creative accounting.

    Your first sentence is at complete odds with the other two.
    Clarification is required.
    Are they at odds?

    ...
    A bit of a mixture between confusion and reading error. I didn't see how you can be a "patsy" and "find new ways to tackle the government pressure".
    Reading "Naga" as slang for "no". My mistake. Then realising that it is the u-turn that cheers you.
    No worries. A lesson to try and be more clear in my posting.

    Must admit I had to read it twice. I once I worked out what you were saying, it made sense, and I agree with you. If that makes sense.

    They all need to take a page out of Krishnan Guru-Murthy's book (though maybe not including getting caught on the mic with the fruitier opinion of Steve Baker).
    Wot?
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  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,374
    pinno said:

    morstar said:

    pblakeney said:

    morstar said:

    pblakeney said:

    morstar said:

    So, the BBC has become increasingly a toothless government patsy of late.

    Finally, they are starting to find new ways to tackle the government pressure despite the lack of heavyweight journalists.

    Naga fact checking government figures this morning and simply pointing out the lies / creative accounting.

    Your first sentence is at complete odds with the other two.
    Clarification is required.
    Are they at odds?

    ...
    A bit of a mixture between confusion and reading error. I didn't see how you can be a "patsy" and "find new ways to tackle the government pressure".
    Reading "Naga" as slang for "no". My mistake. Then realising that it is the u-turn that cheers you.
    No worries. A lesson to try and be more clear in my posting.

    Must admit I had to read it twice. I once I worked out what you were saying, it made sense, and I agree with you. If that makes sense.

    They all need to take a page out of Krishnan Guru-Murthy's book (though maybe not including getting caught on the mic with the fruitier opinion of Steve Baker).
    Wot?

    Wot "wot?"? 🤔
  • morstar
    morstar Posts: 6,190
    Eh
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  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,327
    morstar said:

    Eh

    Don't you know wots 'wot', wot?
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  • morstar
    morstar Posts: 6,190
    pinno said:

    morstar said:

    Eh

    Don't you know wots 'wot', wot?
    Oh
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,327
    morstar said:

    pinno said:

    morstar said:

    Eh

    Don't you know wots 'wot', wot?
    Oh
    Ah!
    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • pangolin
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  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,327
    That ^ has got to be one of the most irritating pop songs ever written.
    I am going to have to exorcise that from my head with...
    Beethoven's moonlight sonata?
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  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,374
    pinno said:

    That ^ has got to be one of the most irritating pop songs ever written.
    I am going to have to exorcise that from my head with...
    Beethoven's moonlight sonata?


    Nah, he wrote Moonlight Serenade, I think.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,327
    Serenade?! You been on the pop again BT?
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  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,374
    pinno said:

    Serenade?! You been on the pop again BT?


    I thought that the "Nah" would negate the need for an emoji 😜

    BTW, Miller originally called Moonlight Serenade 'When I Lay Me Down To Weep". Curiously, it didn't become famous till he changed the title.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,327

    pinno said:

    Serenade?! You been on the pop again BT?


    I thought that the "Nah" would negate the need for an emoji 😜

    BTW, Miller originally called Moonlight Serenade 'When I Lay Me Down To Weep". Curiously, it didn't become famous till he changed the title.
    ...my brain sent me off on a tangent: I was thinking 'The Crucible', 'Death of a salesman..., 'Moonlight serenade'?!

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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    edited December 2022
    Not trivial for me but for everyone else; promoted 2nd year in a row and my little business (or practice or franchise or whatever you lot want to call it), I started from nothing in January has, in 2022 anyway, been successful. Smashed all my targets and has actually made material money.

    Really proud of myself because a) I've been working to this moment my entire career b) I really put my neck on the line to start this from nothing - it was my idea and I did have to convince some sceptics before doing it and c) it's just me on my own so the success has actually been down to me.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    I like the idea of material money, feels like it will last longer than the paper or whatever it is these days version.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,374
    Not at all trivial... having a friend who at a moment's notice was happy to drive me and two strangers to Bristol Airport from Exeter when *two* Falcon buses failed to turn up, and the helpline couldn't find where the next bus was.

    So much for public transport, eh?
  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,821

    Not at all trivial... having a friend who at a moment's notice was happy to drive me and two strangers to Bristol Airport from Exeter when *two* Falcon buses failed to turn up, and the helpline couldn't find where the next bus was.

    So much for public transport, eh?

    Couldn't you have used electric bikes?
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    Or lived somewhere less yokelly?
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,436
    I don't follow it, I don't know anything really about it, I'm rarely aware it's happening before it ends, but it really cheers me up when people on the social media timelines, who are enthusiastic about cricket, are happy about something that has happened
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  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,424

    Not trivial for me but for everyone else; promoted 2nd year in a row and my little business (or practice or franchise or whatever you lot want to call it), I started from nothing in January has, in 2022 anyway, been successful. Smashed all my targets and has actually made material money.

    Really proud of myself because a) I've been working to this moment my entire career b) I really put my neck on the line to start this from nothing - it was my idea and I did have to convince some sceptics before doing it and c) it's just me on my own so the success has actually been down to me.

    Your conversion to the Tory side of The Force is progressing well, Young Jedi :)
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