Seemingly trivial things that cheer you up
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Wanna bet? That's one solid bit of timber there. Anyway, I only read lightweight books.pblakeney said:Books will be coming together in the middle sometime fairly soon.
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Very nice. Nobody wants to see fixings. A bookshelf in a wonky alcove would make a perfect teaching aid on the importance of tolerances and measuring accuracy for our junior staff. If you had the time and tools you could use slightly larger battens and scribe them to the walls.veronese68 said:
I used 1/4" bead for the battens and routed out a channel in 1" MDF to make our shelves, invisible supports. But as with Brian the alcoves not being square is a complete pain in the aris'.rjsterry said:
No batten across the back?briantrumpet said:Haha, more bookshelves... I thought this would be easy, batten either end, plank between, just needed to get the angles right. What I'd forgotten to check was that the inside and outside surfaces of the alcove were parallel... they aren't, and neither are the side surfaces actually straight. And then drilling old limestone walls to put in the rawlplugs was slightly more approximate than planned. A few matchsticks sorted that out.
And at least I've got one up, and have a better plan for getting the other two a bit less wonky. It'll do, though, and that cheers me up.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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Thankfully the back of the alcove was narrower than the front, the other way round would make sliding the shelf in rather tricky to say the least.rjsterry said:
Very nice. Nobody wants to see fixings. A bookshelf in a wonky alcove would make a perfect teaching aid on the importance of tolerances and measuring accuracy for our junior staff. If you had the time and tools you could use slightly larger battens and scribe them to the walls.veronese68 said:
I used 1/4" bead for the battens and routed out a channel in 1" MDF to make our shelves, invisible supports. But as with Brian the alcoves not being square is a complete pain in the aris'.rjsterry said:
No batten across the back?briantrumpet said:Haha, more bookshelves... I thought this would be easy, batten either end, plank between, just needed to get the angles right. What I'd forgotten to check was that the inside and outside surfaces of the alcove were parallel... they aren't, and neither are the side surfaces actually straight. And then drilling old limestone walls to put in the rawlplugs was slightly more approximate than planned. A few matchsticks sorted that out.
And at least I've got one up, and have a better plan for getting the other two a bit less wonky. It'll do, though, and that cheers me up.0 -
Based on personal experience. Worst case scenario, replace in time.briantrumpet said:
Wanna bet? That's one solid bit of timber there. Anyway, I only read lightweight books.pblakeney said:Books will be coming together in the middle sometime fairly soon.
Only question is how long. I'm talking 20 years. 😉The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.1 -
Like PB, I think that will warp.
I used 38mm Beech block laminate, Walnut (off cuts from the kitchen worktops), some Cherry. I even have some Oak.
I used 10mm wooden doweling and grab adhesive plus brackets. Super strong - jars and heavy cook books.
Some examples:
seanoconn - gruagach craic!1 -
It is so long since I had to use this, so the figure may be out a bit .
From memory, distance between supports 0.625x total length?
What is really annoying is that I knew this off the top of my head 40 years ago, yet Google can't find the simple ratio. Also depends on equal loading.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.1 -
pblakeney said:
It is so long since I had to use this, so the figure may be out a bit .
From memory, distance between supports 0.625x total length?
What is really annoying is that I knew this off the top of my head 40 years ago, yet Google can't find the simple ratio. Also depends on equal loading.
Even if I don't think they'll sag, I have a plan. TBH, I don't want to go drilling in the back wall, as it's exterior, is filling what was once a hole in the wall, and I've no idea if it's straw held together with pig slurry (I've still got the pig trough in the basement).
So I'm going to put in central vertical dividers, from the floor up. Being under compression, they won't need to be too chunky.1 -
There is another way...
Put a strip of wood along the front of that shelf.
You can screw it in from above and or glue it in.
If you want, you can add one at the back which you'll hardly see.
You can also recess the strip (5mm?) which gives it a bit more design.
A tight fit will mean that it can't warp (as long as you have one front and back) as there can be no lateral movement. It also means you do not have to deploy unsightly uprights that also lose space.seanoconn - gruagach craic!2 -
Possibly, but actually vertical dividers in bookshelves are quite useful.pinno said:There is another way...
Put a strip of wood along the front of that shelf.
You can screw it in from above and or glue it in.
If you want, you can add one at the back which you'll hardly see.
You can also recess the strip (5mm?) which gives it a bit more design.
A tight fit will mean that it can't warp (as long as you have one front and back) as there can be no lateral movement. It also means you do not have to deploy unsightly uprights that also lose space.
Anyway, have got the bottom two shelves in now, much more accurately, having made a wooden template for the angles each side, for each shelf.
I'm aware that it's quite 'rustic' in design and execution, compared with what some of you would do... but then, I'm quite rustic in design and execution too, and given I don't do much bricolage, I'm quite happy with it.
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My son is having a few days off in Dorset, went to a pub and said they had a lovely brew called Dog on the Roof, about 6% but very drinkable. Thought they'd have another and turned to go back in and saw there was indeed a dog on the roof.
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Someone has mentioned this before I think but the funicular railway in Lynmouth. Such a simple concept that just works.1
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That does not cheer me up at all. I am amazed at the skill involved but I was also amazed at the skill of Martyn Ashton.0
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More mind boggling was his (other) trip to Skye:veronese68 said:That really is mind boggling
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ym2F-tHdkk
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The boy's going to do himself an injury cycling like that.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Searching out roads I've not ridden before, and finding a col there I didn't know existed.
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Is that gravel BT?seanoconn - gruagach craic!0
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Non, monsieur ! Some of these 'secondary cols', which don't necessarily stay open through the winter, have a more gravelly surface, so you've got to look extra carefully for loose gravel, but it is a proper road.pinno said:Is that gravel BT?
Approaching a col and looking forward to a long speedy descent, then to be confronted with signs that tell you there's going to be 'gravillons' starting at the summit definitely deserves to go in the annoyances thread, though it's not trivial.0 -
Get a gravel bike BT, you know you want to. Go on, go on, go on.
In other cheery news, Niggly Fartrage and similar fascist ilk's criticism of the RNLI causes massive spike in donations to the charity.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58009646
See, there are good people out there, we are not all Gammonati.
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orraloon said:
Get a gravel bike BT, you know you want to. Go on, go on, go on.
In other cheery news, Niggly Fartrage and similar fascist ilk's criticism of the RNLI causes massive spike in donations to the charity.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58009646
See, there are good people out there, we are not all Gammonati.
Yes Loon, there are good people out there. The fact that donations went up doesn't surprise me.
It seems that within the EU, only the people Sweden and the Netherlands were more comfortable having immigrants as friends than than we were in the UK. Same with work colleagues.
Who says so? Why, a report commissioned for the European Commission,
Directorate-General for Migration and Home Affairs.
http://www.europeanmigrationlaw.eu/documents/EuroBarometer-IntegrationOfMigrantsintheEU.pdf
Or this report, with only Canada and Australia viewing immigrants more positively than the UK. As for the other countries in the Eu....oh dear.
https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2019/03/14/around-the-world-more-say-immigrants-are-a-strength-than-a-burden/1 -
I don’t know many people pro -Brexit but it does intrigue me that the ones on here seem to becoming more obsessed with framing everything through an EU lens.ballysmate said:orraloon said:Get a gravel bike BT, you know you want to. Go on, go on, go on.
In other cheery news, Niggly Fartrage and similar fascist ilk's criticism of the RNLI causes massive spike in donations to the charity.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58009646
See, there are good people out there, we are not all Gammonati.
Yes Loon, there are good people out there. The fact that donations went up doesn't surprise me.
It seems that within the EU, only the people Sweden and the Netherlands were more comfortable having immigrants as friends than than we were in the UK. Same with work colleagues.
Who says so? Why, a report commissioned for the European Commission,
Directorate-General for Migration and Home Affairs.
http://www.europeanmigrationlaw.eu/documents/EuroBarometer-IntegrationOfMigrantsintheEU.pdf
Or this report, with only Canada and Australia viewing immigrants more positively than the UK. As for the other countries in the Eu....oh dear.
https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2019/03/14/around-the-world-more-say-immigrants-are-a-strength-than-a-burden/1 -
Is it just not that it's hard to deny the lack of sunlit uplands, or indeed deny that there are empty supermarket shelves, so you need to focus your attention on it all being worse elsewhere?surrey_commuter said:
I don’t know many people pro -Brexit but it does intrigue me that the ones on here seem to becoming more obsessed with framing everything through an EU lens.
Hence all the "thank brexit for the vaccine" chat, which is no different to the "£350m a year" chat. ie. a wilful misunderstanding of how it all works.
I also think for those people who have read the nonsense the telegraph et all would make up about the EU for 20 years or so, it's quite hard to suddenly see them as anything other than the bogeyman.0 -
Positive view of migrants being pushed no doubt by disgraced former International Development Secretary Priti Vacant's current goon squad. Viz:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58019981
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Anyway, this nonsense does not cheer me up.rick_chasey said:
Is it just not that it's hard to deny the lack of sunlit uplands, or indeed deny that there are empty supermarket shelves, so you need to focus your attention on it all being worse elsewhere?surrey_commuter said:
I don’t know many people pro -Brexit but it does intrigue me that the ones on here seem to becoming more obsessed with framing everything through an EU lens.
Hence all the "thank brexit for the vaccine" chat, which is no different to the "£350m a year" chat. ie. a wilful misunderstanding of how it all works.
I also think for those people who have read the nonsense the telegraph et all would make up about the EU for 20 years or so, it's quite hard to suddenly see them as anything other than the bogeyman.
The Olympics however - trivial but very enjoyable. Always love it.0 -
I think it is simpler than that. They assess you being in favour of membership of the EU through their hatred of all things EU so come to the conclusion that you “love the EU and everything about it.rick_chasey said:
Is it just not that it's hard to deny the lack of sunlit uplands, or indeed deny that there are empty supermarket shelves, so you need to focus your attention on it all being worse elsewhere?surrey_commuter said:
I don’t know many people pro -Brexit but it does intrigue me that the ones on here seem to becoming more obsessed with framing everything through an EU lens.
Hence all the "thank brexit for the vaccine" chat, which is no different to the "£350m a year" chat. ie. a wilful misunderstanding of how it all works.
I also think for those people who have read the nonsense the telegraph et all would make up about the EU for 20 years or so, it's quite hard to suddenly see them as anything other than the bogeyman.1 -
I posted that truck drivers are doing well. What more do you want?surrey_commuter said:
I don’t know many people pro -Brexit but it does intrigue me that the ones on here seem to becoming more obsessed with framing everything through an EU lens.ballysmate said:orraloon said:Get a gravel bike BT, you know you want to. Go on, go on, go on.
In other cheery news, Niggly Fartrage and similar fascist ilk's criticism of the RNLI causes massive spike in donations to the charity.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58009646
See, there are good people out there, we are not all Gammonati.
Yes Loon, there are good people out there. The fact that donations went up doesn't surprise me.
It seems that within the EU, only the people Sweden and the Netherlands were more comfortable having immigrants as friends than than we were in the UK. Same with work colleagues.
Who says so? Why, a report commissioned for the European Commission,
Directorate-General for Migration and Home Affairs.
http://www.europeanmigrationlaw.eu/documents/EuroBarometer-IntegrationOfMigrantsintheEU.pdf
Or this report, with only Canada and Australia viewing immigrants more positively than the UK. As for the other countries in the Eu....oh dear.
https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2019/03/14/around-the-world-more-say-immigrants-are-a-strength-than-a-burden/
On a serious note, it does appear to be driving up wages in some sectors which should lead to productivity improvements.0 -
Confused by the question - "Have you ever met a man who admits to being five foot ten?" I am 5 foot ten.rick_chasey said:The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0
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