Seemingly trivial things that annoy you

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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,751
    That seemed to start in Euro 2016, I assume the first time it was people genuinely getting excited and after that all the copycat morons decided to do it for the fun of it. If you did that in a pub normally you’d get filled in.
  • Pross said:

    That seemed to start in Euro 2016, I assume the first time it was people genuinely getting excited and after that all the copycat morons decided to do it for the fun of it. If you did that in a pub normally you’d get filled in.

    Quite right to
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,751
    At a time when people are getting payments from the Government towards their fuel bills and there are risks of power cuts, people who completely cover their houses in lights and naff illuminated decorations.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,751
    Is he really equating people suggesting moving to work somewhere cheaper in order to get a foot on the housing ladder would be the same as forcing someone to sell the property they’ve already bought?
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    edited November 2022
    More that it’s an annoying riposte to complaints about how expensive living in London is especially when you’re young, and the equivalent riposte for oldies would be unpalatable

    (Hence the thread choice)
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,331
    edited November 2022
    Pross said:

    Is he really equating people suggesting moving to work somewhere cheaper in order to get a foot on the housing ladder would be the same as forcing someone to sell the property they’ve already bought?
    Seems fair in that context.

    (The context being the suggestion that someone with an asset worth a million pounds maybe shouldn't get a state pension.)
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    edited November 2022

    pangolin said:

    What outcome are you hoping for?

    Ideally I want them to lose the franchise, but I'd like compensation for the disruption.

    They cancelled the trains for 2 weeks which was bad enough but at least I could claim compensation for it.

    Now, rather than cancelling the trains they're removed them from the timetable, so no compensation claims are possible.

    I've obviously complained to them but what use does that do.
    So it turns out this loophole is also being used up north.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/nov/27/revealed-north-of-england-train-line-vastly-under-reports-cancellations?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

    You heard it here first, dear reader.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,698

    This guy gets it:

    ...

    Tbf, if I were the 65 year old then selling up is exactly what I would do.
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  • monkimark
    monkimark Posts: 1,979
    But probably not moving to Hull.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,698
    monkimark said:

    But probably not moving to Hull.

    That is true. Other downsizing locations are available.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
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  • webboo
    webboo Posts: 6,087
    monkimark said:

    But probably not moving to Hull.

    Moving to Dull is the equivalent of sending migrants to Rwanda
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 21,148
    edited November 2022
    Trying to use a 50p-off coupon one day after it expired.

    Now, if that's not trivial *and* annoying, I don't know what is.
  • masjer
    masjer Posts: 2,820
    I don't watch much football, but co-commentators/pundits get on my nerves by asking a question of the very thing they’ve just stated. A qualified statement.

    “What a great pass, wasn’t it?”
    “The keeper’s made a real hash of that, hasn’t he?”

  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 21,148
    masjer said:

    I don't watch much football, but co-commentators/pundits get on my nerves by asking a question of the very thing they’ve just stated. A qualified statement.

    “What a great pass, wasn’t it?”
    “The keeper’s made a real hash of that, hasn’t he?”

    Or "n'est-ce pas?!"

    It's not really a question though, it's a reinforcement of the statement... in the French case it's really a challenge to the other person... "You can't disagree, can you?"
  • masjer
    masjer Posts: 2,820
    I'm not sure I can agree with that, or can I ?
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 21,148
    masjer said:

    I'm not sure I can agree with that, or can I ?


    Are you saying I might be wrong?
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,672
    edited November 2022

    masjer said:

    I'm not sure I can agree with that, or can I ?


    Are you saying I might be wrong?
    Yeah, yeah. I can se where you want this to go.

    What really pixxes me off is the football commentators (turned football experts) who starts their questions with the manager like this:
    "Last week, you started with a 4-4-2 which was successful and this week you went with a 4-3-3, do you think that was cause of your loss?"
    [Manager looks nonplussed before a long umm and then you can see in his eyes that he may as well agree with expert commentator because contradicting him might result in a bun fight and 'I told him so'].
    Contrast this with the Eurosport translator who turned commentator and he asks straight questions (almost naïve at times) but he lets the person he is interviewing do the talking and the responses often speak volumes.
    It's actually far better journalism.

    Funniest football quote:
    Joseph-Désiré Job comes off the bench for Middlesbrough FC in an FA cup game, gets 2 goals and they go through.

    Interviewer: "I bet your happy with coming off the bench and scoring 2 goals"
    FSP; "I no like to watch, I like to play... and when I play, I play my fcuking balls off"

    BBC cuts to Gary Lineker quickly (it's live): Gary says: He must have some physio.
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  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,674
    edited November 2022
    Royal Mail strikes today, tomorrow, 9, 11, 14, 15, 23 and 24 December.

    Didn't realise how many there were. Wife's birthday this weekend which is unfortunate timing.
    - Genesis Croix de Fer
    - Dolan Tuono
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Who here has managed an inflation related pay rise?
  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,674

    Who here has managed an inflation related pay rise?

    I have, but slight role change too so hard to compare apples to apples.

    I've got more sympathy with posties than train drivers, looking at salaries.
    - Genesis Croix de Fer
    - Dolan Tuono
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,698

    Who here has managed an inflation related pay rise?

    No rise in 2 years.
    That may come to a head in February.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
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  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,136

    Who here has managed an inflation related pay rise?

    Good year for me.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 62,070
    Raises in our place were higher than normal which was largely due to inflation. That said they were still someway below inflation.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,751
    I took a cut (works out around £200 per month take home) to change jobs. Prior to moving I'd had about a £1k increase in the 5 years I'd been in that job and no rise in the 18 months I was in my previous job. I'm earning £9k less now (actual money not real-terms) than I was in 2015 and I also had more benefits then (car, healthcare etc.). Money is no longer the first priority for me on the work front - still important obviously but as long as I'm earning enough to pay the bills and tuck away a little bit in the savings account each month I'd rather something with less stress.

    If I'd stayed in my previous job I would have been pushing for a decent rise as the company had become well-established and was bringing people in at higher salaries but I wouldn't have been expecting a pay rise to match inflation. It just isn't realistic at the moment with the inflation rate not reflecting growth. I think Unions asking for inflation beating rises are deliberately looking for confrontation, they'd be better looking at getting longer term deals e.g. 5% now and then 1 or 2% above inflation when it is below a certain level. That said, I appreciate that if you are just scraping by on your current salary and your costs are going up by 11% that isn't a great help.

    Structured pay increases are also the way to go with the lowest paid getting a higher percentage of the overall pot, it's what used to happen when I was in a Union 30 years ago and may still be the way it is still done with the media just reporting the average.
  • Pross said:

    I took a cut (works out around £200 per month take home) to change jobs. Prior to moving I'd had about a £1k increase in the 5 years I'd been in that job and no rise in the 18 months I was in my previous job. I'm earning £9k less now (actual money not real-terms) than I was in 2015 and I also had more benefits then (car, healthcare etc.). Money is no longer the first priority for me on the work front - still important obviously but as long as I'm earning enough to pay the bills and tuck away a little bit in the savings account each month I'd rather something with less stress.

    If I'd stayed in my previous job I would have been pushing for a decent rise as the company had become well-established and was bringing people in at higher salaries but I wouldn't have been expecting a pay rise to match inflation. It just isn't realistic at the moment with the inflation rate not reflecting growth. I think Unions asking for inflation beating rises are deliberately looking for confrontation, they'd be better looking at getting longer term deals e.g. 5% now and then 1 or 2% above inflation when it is below a certain level. That said, I appreciate that if you are just scraping by on your current salary and your costs are going up by 11% that isn't a great help.

    Structured pay increases are also the way to go with the lowest paid getting a higher percentage of the overall pot, it's what used to happen when I was in a Union 30 years ago and may still be the way it is still done with the media just reporting the average.

    The Royal Mail strike isn’t to do with pay. The headline ‘9% offer over 18 months’ actually equates to a pay cut for the majority as they are doing away with different allowances. This also involves the unions agreeing to redundancies, at a lower rate than agreed, of 25,000 staff, while they keep 11,500 agency workers.

    Royal Mail are trying to replace their staff with agency workers, on less money and become Evri.

    We use Royal Mail and Parcel Force because of the quality of service. That is in main due to having regular staff who know our business and times of collection etc.

    Whenever we’ve tried using a courier with subbies we sack them off after a few months due to the issues we have with them.

    This is another race to the bottom.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 62,070

    Pross said:

    I took a cut (works out around £200 per month take home) to change jobs. Prior to moving I'd had about a £1k increase in the 5 years I'd been in that job and no rise in the 18 months I was in my previous job. I'm earning £9k less now (actual money not real-terms) than I was in 2015 and I also had more benefits then (car, healthcare etc.). Money is no longer the first priority for me on the work front - still important obviously but as long as I'm earning enough to pay the bills and tuck away a little bit in the savings account each month I'd rather something with less stress.

    If I'd stayed in my previous job I would have been pushing for a decent rise as the company had become well-established and was bringing people in at higher salaries but I wouldn't have been expecting a pay rise to match inflation. It just isn't realistic at the moment with the inflation rate not reflecting growth. I think Unions asking for inflation beating rises are deliberately looking for confrontation, they'd be better looking at getting longer term deals e.g. 5% now and then 1 or 2% above inflation when it is below a certain level. That said, I appreciate that if you are just scraping by on your current salary and your costs are going up by 11% that isn't a great help.

    Structured pay increases are also the way to go with the lowest paid getting a higher percentage of the overall pot, it's what used to happen when I was in a Union 30 years ago and may still be the way it is still done with the media just reporting the average.

    The Royal Mail strike isn’t to do with pay. The headline ‘9% offer over 18 months’ actually equates to a pay cut for the majority as they are doing away with different allowances. This also involves the unions agreeing to redundancies, at a lower rate than agreed, of 25,000 staff, while they keep 11,500 agency workers.

    Royal Mail are trying to replace their staff with agency workers, on less money and become Evri.

    We use Royal Mail and Parcel Force because of the quality of service. That is in main due to having regular staff who know our business and times of collection etc.

    Whenever we’ve tried using a courier with subbies we sack them off after a few months due to the issues we have with them.

    This is another race to the bottom.
    There is also the small issue of being able to compete properly with the competition and updating some of the restrictive practices that are preventing Royal Mail from doing so. Their last set of financial results suggest that change is needed.

    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,751
    Not necessarily thinking of the mail strike just the various pay 'demands' that are being reported. Nurses are asking for 5% over inflation, I get that you go into negotiations asking for more than you are actually looking to get but that is just ridiculous. I'm not suggesting they aren't worth that rise and that their pay has been allowed to drop below where it should be but they must have known there was no way they were going to get anything close to that. Other Unions like to dress things up as not being about pay and mention a load of other reasons for their strike action, e.g. safety with rail workers, but there is nearly always a large pay increase amongst what they are asking for.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,698

    Pross said:

    I took a cut (works out around £200 per month take home) to change jobs. Prior to moving I'd had about a £1k increase in the 5 years I'd been in that job and no rise in the 18 months I was in my previous job. I'm earning £9k less now (actual money not real-terms) than I was in 2015 and I also had more benefits then (car, healthcare etc.). Money is no longer the first priority for me on the work front - still important obviously but as long as I'm earning enough to pay the bills and tuck away a little bit in the savings account each month I'd rather something with less stress.

    If I'd stayed in my previous job I would have been pushing for a decent rise as the company had become well-established and was bringing people in at higher salaries but I wouldn't have been expecting a pay rise to match inflation. It just isn't realistic at the moment with the inflation rate not reflecting growth. I think Unions asking for inflation beating rises are deliberately looking for confrontation, they'd be better looking at getting longer term deals e.g. 5% now and then 1 or 2% above inflation when it is below a certain level. That said, I appreciate that if you are just scraping by on your current salary and your costs are going up by 11% that isn't a great help.

    Structured pay increases are also the way to go with the lowest paid getting a higher percentage of the overall pot, it's what used to happen when I was in a Union 30 years ago and may still be the way it is still done with the media just reporting the average.

    The Royal Mail strike isn’t to do with pay.
    ...
    This is another race to the bottom.
    There are no winners in the race to the bottom.
    The UK is in a race to the bottom.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.