Seemingly trivial things that annoy you

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  • Pross said:

    I assume the 10,000 paintings in a year is an exageration?

    It isn't. 5,149 opted for physical and 4,851 for NFTs.

    So he took in $20M for his primary school art class pictures.

  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,666
    Pross said:

    I assume the 10,000 paintings in a year is an exageration?

    No but they are just loads of dots

    https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2022/jul/26/damien-hirst-to-burn-thousands-of-his-paintings-to-show-art-as-currency
    - Genesis Croix de Fer
    - Dolan Tuono
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,682
    So if he was banging them out for 18 hours a day, 7 days a week that would be about 40 minutes on each and 10,000 people considered them works of art worth $2,000? Fools and their money and all that! Will they really have any value in 10 years?
  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,666
    I'd be astounded if he spent anything like 40 minutes on each.
    - Genesis Croix de Fer
    - Dolan Tuono
  • He gets other people to paint them
  • Thinking up the names is probably the most time consuming bit.
  • Pross said:


    Unsure why you are quite so adamant not to 'get' it.

    Mainly because if I had the money to be able to buy the 'best' of something I would want to enjoy it for how it was intended rather than simply wanting to acquire it so I could make more money from someone who wants it more than me. Fair enough, if there was a whiskey that tasted like censored but for some reason was incredibly valuable but presumably most whiskies / wines etc. that become valuable are because they are considered to be particularly good quality

    It's probably not quite true to say I don't get it, it's making money. It's more I don't get people who have loads of money not wanting to enjoy their purchases instead of using them to make more money. What is the point in having all the wealth you need if you don't then use it to enjoy life?

    I would say there are different levels of wine investors.

    If you buy en-primeur then you ar ebuying it in the barrel and providing cash flow for the producer, bythe time it is ready to drink in several years time it will easily double in value. If you buy double what you want then sell the rest you are drinking fine wine for free.

    Other people have so much money that they have maxed out their pension, are an ISA millionaire, don't want to increase the number of properties they own, one yacht is enough and can't take any more holidays. They still have spare money to invest so do a bit of angel investing and buy rare products that they think will go up in value. They may also drink it, drive it or ride it.

    Think of it as the opposite of Brian's quote, they have more than enough and now want to invest in things that interest them.

    I am not necessarily endorsing this as I could not comprehend my in-laws neighbour who had a ferrari that even went on a truck for the MOT. He also had a Froome TdeF winning bike displayed as art in his house that he never rode
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,079

    Pross said:


    Unsure why you are quite so adamant not to 'get' it.

    Mainly because if I had the money to be able to buy the 'best' of something I would want to enjoy it for how it was intended rather than simply wanting to acquire it so I could make more money from someone who wants it more than me. Fair enough, if there was a whiskey that tasted like censored but for some reason was incredibly valuable but presumably most whiskies / wines etc. that become valuable are because they are considered to be particularly good quality

    It's probably not quite true to say I don't get it, it's making money. It's more I don't get people who have loads of money not wanting to enjoy their purchases instead of using them to make more money. What is the point in having all the wealth you need if you don't then use it to enjoy life?

    I would say there are different levels of wine investors.

    If you buy en-primeur then you ar ebuying it in the barrel and providing cash flow for the producer, bythe time it is ready to drink in several years time it will easily double in value. If you buy double what you want then sell the rest you are drinking fine wine for free.

    Other people have so much money that they have maxed out their pension, are an ISA millionaire, don't want to increase the number of properties they own, one yacht is enough and can't take any more holidays. They still have spare money to invest so do a bit of angel investing and buy rare products that they think will go up in value. They may also drink it, drive it or ride it.

    Think of it as the opposite of Brian's quote, they have more than enough and now want to invest in things that interest them.

    I am not necessarily endorsing this as I could not comprehend my in-laws neighbour who had a ferrari that even went on a truck for the MOT. He also had a Froome TdeF winning bike displayed as art in his house that he never rode
    Just case anyone is easily misled. Nothing is guaranteed to double in value.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,931

    Think of it as the opposite of Brian's quote, they have more than enough and now want to invest in things that interest them.


    I think that's not the opposite - it's proving the point: they will never have enough. They just need more 'stuff' to fill a gaping hole in their soul. Calling this stuff 'investment' also feeds their unending quest to increase their paper net worth.
  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,895


    You could also, in theory, buy 2 bottles of whiskey, drink one, then sell the other after 5 years.

    The problem being after drinking too much whiskey having more whiskey always seems like a good idea. Then you can't remember what happened to the second bottle.
  • Drank that one too. *hic*
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,621
    Came back from Paris (the weekend Diana got killed) leaving my then GF behind as she was finishing her Uni course.
    Was prompted by her to buy a bottle of duty free Laphroaig on the Ferry.
    It was a 1.5l bottle and we demolished the whole thing in one evening.

    I have never ever had such a bad hangover and I haven't touched Whisky since. Can't even smell the stuff without reeling.
    So I stick to Vodka - out of the freezer, in a shot glass (also out of the freezer) at certain times of the year. No mixing, no adding anything. No hangover.
    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,594
    edited October 2022
    pinno said:


    ...
    Was prompted by her to buy a bottle of duty free Laphroaig on the Ferry.
    It was a 1.5l bottle and we demolished the whole thing in one evening.

    ....

    I can see 2 flaws in that course of action. 😉
    I wouldn't drink a free Laphroaig. Other opinions are available.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,682
    Never would have thought Pinno would have been one to have taken Diana’s death so hard he had to drown his sorrows to that extent!
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,931
    Taking bikes on SNCF TER trains... four of us tried to go from Die to Gap in August... only four bike spaces on the whole train (not possible to reserve spaces), there was only one left, the conductor wouldn't let us on with our bikes (there was a lady there first with hers)... you've got to buy your tickets before getting on the train, so I applied later in the day for a refund.

    Just heard back... no dice. Bastards. Crazy system.

    tl;dr - don't ever try to take your bike on a particular TER train. A pity, as I'd thought about one day going to Briançon and cycling back.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660

    Taking bikes on SNCF TER trains... four of us tried to go from Die to Gap in August... only four bike spaces on the whole train (not possible to reserve spaces), there was only one left, the conductor wouldn't let us on with our bikes (there was a lady there first with hers)... you've got to buy your tickets before getting on the train, so I applied later in the day for a refund.

    Just heard back... no dice. Bastards. Crazy system.

    tl;dr - don't ever try to take your bike on a particular TER train. A pity, as I'd thought about one day going to Briançon and cycling back.

    It’s maddening. One of the best ways to improve public transport, reduce emissions etc is the bike-train-bike infrastructure.

    Loads of studies into those journeys. It’s a real public transport infrastructure panacea.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,594



    tl;dr - don't ever try to take your bike on a particular TER train. A pity, as I'd thought about one day going to Briançon and cycling back.

    Better than cycling somewhere expecting to get the train back. 😉
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,931
    pblakeney said:



    tl;dr - don't ever try to take your bike on a particular TER train. A pity, as I'd thought about one day going to Briançon and cycling back.

    Better than cycling somewhere expecting to get the train back. 😉

    Indeed - one reason we were going to do it that way round.

    We went for a walk instead.


  • Think of it as the opposite of Brian's quote, they have more than enough and now want to invest in things that interest them.


    I think that's not the opposite - it's proving the point: they will never have enough. They just need more 'stuff' to fill a gaping hole in their soul. Calling this stuff 'investment' also feeds their unending quest to increase their paper net worth.
    I am not explaining myself very well. They have goe so far past the point of having enough that they are looking for new places to "invest" money that is more fun than the traditional options.
  • It's just something a bit different to collect / invest in. It's all relative as to how 'far past the point of having enough' you think someone is.

    There was a point when I thought anyone who invested in stocks and shares and had wealth beyond their house/mortgage/pension/current account was 'far past the point of having enough'.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,931

    Think of it as the opposite of Brian's quote, they have more than enough and now want to invest in things that interest them.


    I think that's not the opposite - it's proving the point: they will never have enough. They just need more 'stuff' to fill a gaping hole in their soul. Calling this stuff 'investment' also feeds their unending quest to increase their paper net worth.
    I am not explaining myself very well. They have goe so far past the point of having enough that they are looking for new places to "invest" money that is more fun than the traditional options.

    If they really had enough, they'd give everything over that to charity. No, they just need more stuff.
  • Munsford0
    Munsford0 Posts: 680
    We need very little. Food, water, shelter, maybe some heating and possibly medicines?

    What we want is an altogether different thing...
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,594
    Munsford0 said:

    We need very little. Food, water, shelter, maybe some heating and possibly medicines?

    What we want is an altogether different thing...

    The point is about having enough to be content and happy.
    Some (most?) appear to never be content and therefore are never truly happy.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • photonic69
    photonic69 Posts: 3,032
    Serrated cardboard edges on rolls of tin foil or clingfilm... WTAF were they thinking? Never work even when new and they get progressively worse from there on.


    Sometimes. Maybe. Possibly.

  • Serrated cardboard edges on rolls of tin foil or clingfilm... WTAF were they thinking? Never work even when new and they get progressively worse from there on.

    The Bacofoil Easy Cut Cling Film Dispenser is in its own small way, a life enhancing item.
  • morstar
    morstar Posts: 6,190

    Serrated cardboard edges on rolls of tin foil or clingfilm... WTAF were they thinking? Never work even when new and they get progressively worse from there on.

    The Bacofoil Easy Cut Cling Film Dispenser is in its own small way, a life enhancing item.
    Can’t say I share this specific passion but I do really love small simple things that just work. They bring a smile to your face each time they are used.
  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,666
    morstar said:

    Serrated cardboard edges on rolls of tin foil or clingfilm... WTAF were they thinking? Never work even when new and they get progressively worse from there on.

    The Bacofoil Easy Cut Cling Film Dispenser is in its own small way, a life enhancing item.
    Can’t say I share this specific passion but I do really love small simple things that just work. They bring a smile to your face each time they are used.
    Bit personal for a public forum morstar...
    - Genesis Croix de Fer
    - Dolan Tuono
  • Think of it as the opposite of Brian's quote, they have more than enough and now want to invest in things that interest them.


    I think that's not the opposite - it's proving the point: they will never have enough. They just need more 'stuff' to fill a gaping hole in their soul. Calling this stuff 'investment' also feeds their unending quest to increase their paper net worth.
    I am not explaining myself very well. They have goe so far past the point of having enough that they are looking for new places to "invest" money that is more fun than the traditional options.

    If they really had enough, they'd give everything over that to charity. No, they just need more stuff.
    You don't need an all weather cricket net in your garden and a bowling machine but why not.

    I would agree with you more if they replaced their phone after 3 months because Apple had released a new model
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,621
    edited October 2022
    Pross said:

    Never would have thought Pinno would have been one to have taken Diana’s death so hard he had to drown his sorrows to that extent!

    ?

    The two are not connected.
    It's like people remember what they were doing when JKF died or when man landed on the moon. I was not born to remember any of that but I do remember the day Jomo Kenyatta died for example.
    I was in Cheltenham general hospital having hip replacement number 1 the day of Di's funeral.
    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • mully79
    mully79 Posts: 904
    morstar said:

    Serrated cardboard edges on rolls of tin foil or clingfilm... WTAF were they thinking? Never work even when new and they get progressively worse from there on.

    The Bacofoil Easy Cut Cling Film Dispenser is in its own small way, a life enhancing item.
    Can’t say I share this specific passion but I do really love small simple things that just work. They bring a smile to your face each time they are used.
    In my house, she takes the clingfilm and or the foil roll out of the box even if I bend the tabs in and chucks it back in the cupboard so that it gets dented.

    Oh how I love a 100m roll of foil that sticks to itself and rips a hole every revolution till the end.