Seemingly trivial things that annoy you

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  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,299
    Us outsiders go 'nah, wotcha on about?'
    Years and years of working in all seasons out of doors means all the bits outside of a T and shorts are well browned. So keep your tops on peeps.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,469
    I remember going for a ride near the Uffington White horse in 2003 when it was 38C. Also rode around the Devils Tower in the High 30s the year before. Its worse when you stop.

    And folks, please use the titanium oxide nonoparticle based sunscreen, and spare the aquatic life.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,603
    pinno said:

    pblakeney said:

    Pross said:



    Pross said:

    Should be obvious but I know that for many hot weather means lie in the sun all day drinking alcohol.

    That said, I'm sitting here nursing quite badly sunburned shoulders after being out in it for 9.5 hours last Sunday (plastered myself with factor 30 at the start but didn't take any with me to reapply) so feel a bit of a hypocrite! Did drink many litres of fluids though and wore a hat, couldn't stay in the shade as there wasn't any.

    Bad luck, but is there any reason not to use factor 50? I reckon if I'm going to need sun cream, I might as well get maximum protection.
    Factor 30 was what I already had. I looked at some specialist factor 50 (waterproof triathlon stuff) in a running shop the previous and stupidly decided not to buy any. I haven't had sunburn for over 20 years but I don't very often have exposed shoulders.

    Top tip: the F50 stuff from Aldi is the bees knees - came out right near the top in a serious test a few years ago, and is a quarter of the price of the branded stuff, and seems to last all day when I'm on the bike.
    Presumably the P20 copy?
    The real version is good stuff. Well recommended. Must try the Aldi one. I tried a budget version which worked but the consistency was, inconsistent.
    FWIW I saw 37.8c on my Garmin as I went up the Giau today and thoroughly enjoyed the ride. No sunburn either and I was only using the factor 20 version.
    I think Pross was out for longer (or you're really slow).

    I was out from 08:30 until 17:30 so covered all the peak hours.
    I stopped way too many times to take photos. This place is way too nice to cycle in if you have a camera. This does not annoy me in the slightest. 😂
    Thanks for the Aldi review. 👍
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,686

    On a more serious note, and I know @Pross hates it, but everyone will be fine if they drink enough (that means a lot, to be measured in litres and not cups) and stay out of the direct sun.

    I've decided the current warning is probably justified. My original moan was from a couple of weeks ago when there were temperatures of high 20s / early 30s forecast which is something we get a couple of times most years so people should no what to do. High 30s / possibly 40 is genuinely unusual and with UK houses not designed to keep people cool it will be difficult to get respite. That said it is only 2 or 3 days.
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,079
    Pross said:

    On a more serious note, and I know @Pross hates it, but everyone will be fine if they drink enough (that means a lot, to be measured in litres and not cups) and stay out of the direct sun.

    I've decided the current warning is probably justified. My original moan was from a couple of weeks ago when there were temperatures of high 20s / early 30s forecast which is something we get a couple of times most years so people should no what to do. High 30s / possibly 40 is genuinely unusual and with UK houses not designed to keep people cool it will be difficult to get respite. That said it is only 2 or 3 days.
    The whole houses not designed for it argument is a bit annoying. Across the entire world people either have aircon (I'd guess a minority) or they sit outside in the shade. This country comes with the added benefits that clean water is easily available, there are a limited number of biting insects outside (in the south) and the humidity isn't that bad.

    So really the only question is how easily can people sit outside in the shade. As it happens, my son's school is really rubbish for this, so they are a bit stuck and I should probably be more sympathetic.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,686
    To an extent, that doesn't help with sleeping at night. I disagree on house design though, older houses in the Med and places in the Middle East are designed to stay as cool as possible with thick walls, smaller windows, window shutters and white washed exteriors. They might not be cold but they will be cooler.
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,079
    Pross said:

    To an extent, that doesn't help with sleeping at night. I disagree on house design though, older houses in the Med and places in the Middle East are designed to stay as cool as possible with thick walls, smaller windows, window shutters and white washed exteriors. They might not be cold but they will be cooler.

    Yes and people will still sit outside. Sleeping on the roof is harder in the UK I will give you that.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,628
    Mad dog's an Englishman...
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  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,628
    edited July 2022
    orraloon said:

    Us outsiders go 'nah, wotcha on about?'
    Years and years of working in all seasons out of doors means all the bits outside of a T and shorts are well browned. So keep your tops on peeps.

    It's true - he's ^ black as da hat.
    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,939
    Pross said:

    To an extent, that doesn't help with sleeping at night. I disagree on house design though, older houses in the Med and places in the Middle East are designed to stay as cool as possible with thick walls, smaller windows, window shutters and white washed exteriors. They might not be cold but they will be cooler.


    This is true, and the art is to keep the interior at a sensible temperature: my 'other' house has walls that are 3ft-thick limestone, and in the summer I keep everything shut (door, windows, shutters) as soon as the outside temperature goes above the inside temperature, and open up again if & when in the evening the outside temperature goes below the inside.

    I'm always amused when English friends think that opening windows and doors when it's 40C outside is going to cool the house down: it would be like thinking that leaving the door of a fridge open will cool down the fridge.

    Top tip: don't cook stuff when it's really hot. I did that once, when entertaining, and the inside of the house got to 30C, and it took a couple of days to edge the temperature down again to a nice 25C.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,686
    I suppose the exception to that is if there's a breeze as having windows open then can help.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,939
    Pross said:

    I suppose the exception to that is if there's a breeze as having windows open then can help.


    It really doesn't, if it's 40C outside - it's just a warm fan blowing into the house.
  • masjer
    masjer Posts: 2,806
    Having thick walls is known as the thermal flywheel effect. Basically, a more stable temperature inside the building.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,939
    Hmm, not sure if it annoys me that I'm approaching a tan level that is as much as I want, before I swan off to France. Might have to be factor 50 as the norm, even for short stints in the sun, and not sitting in my garden without a parasol.

    Once upon a time it would have been an achievement to get half a tan in Devon by the middle of July...
  • masjer
    masjer Posts: 2,806
    Way back when, I dated a black girl in Columbia. I spent so much time in the sun, I ended up darker skinned than she was!
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,939
    masjer said:

    Way back when, I dated a black girl in Columbia. I spent so much time in the sun, I ended up darker skinned than she was!


    I seem to tan more and more easily as I get older, but there's a point beyond which it starts to look a little silly, as if you've been left in the oven and been forgotten about.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,469

    Hmm, not sure if it annoys me that I'm approaching a tan level that is as much as I want, before I swan off to France. Might have to be factor 50 as the norm, even for short stints in the sun, and not sitting in my garden without a parasol.

    Once upon a time it would have been an achievement to get half a tan in Devon by the middle of July...

    I don't know why anyone uses less than a factor 30 anyway. And I only use that if its all sainsburys had in stock. The actual effectiveness is so much less.
  • masjer
    masjer Posts: 2,806
    edited July 2022
    Above spf 30 not a lot more happens. 30 blocks 97% 50 blocks 98%. Having said that, I tend to use 50.
    I always wear summer arm sleeves on the bike nowadays.
  • masjer
    masjer Posts: 2,806
    And mitts. My hands have been nuked over the years.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,939
    masjer said:

    And mitts. My hands have been nuked over the years.

    Yeah, hands, as far as the first set of knuckles, do take the brunt.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,469
    masjer said:

    Above spf 30 not a lot more happens. 30 blocks 97% 50 blocks 98%. Having said that, I tend to use 50.
    I always wear summer arm sleeves on the bike nowadays.

    I reckon that's a lab conditions value and that the distinction will be more in actual sweaty use.
  • masjer
    masjer Posts: 2,806
    edited July 2022

    masjer said:

    Above spf 30 not a lot more happens. 30 blocks 97% 50 blocks 98%. Having said that, I tend to use 50.
    I always wear summer arm sleeves on the bike nowadays.

    I reckon that's a lab conditions value and that the distinction will be more in actual sweaty use.
    I think you'll be right. People (me included) tend to use much less sunscreen than the amount used to test it. That's why I use 50, thinking if it is applied thinner than ideal, maybe 50 is better than 30.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    The main supermarket in Holland doesn’t accept visa, Mastercard or Amex.

    You can only pay by card with maestro.

    Pathetic.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,686
    Hooray, we've found something Rick thinks the Dutch do worse than us!
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,628
    masjer said:

    Above spf 30 not a lot more happens. 30 blocks 97% 50 blocks 98%. Having said that, I tend to use 50.
    I always wear summer arm sleeves on the bike nowadays.

    'Summer arm sleeves'. Is that a thing?!
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  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,469
    pinno said:

    masjer said:

    Above spf 30 not a lot more happens. 30 blocks 97% 50 blocks 98%. Having said that, I tend to use 50.
    I always wear summer arm sleeves on the bike nowadays.

    'Summer arm sleeves'. Is that a thing?!
    For a while yes. Theory in marketing spraff is that they increase surface area for sweat wicking.

    Personally I think it is the sort of thing a triathlete would use. Perverts.
  • masjer
    masjer Posts: 2,806
    pinno said:

    masjer said:

    Above spf 30 not a lot more happens. 30 blocks 97% 50 blocks 98%. Having said that, I tend to use 50.
    I always wear summer arm sleeves on the bike nowadays.

    'Summer arm sleeves'. Is that a thing?!
    Yeah, most of the cycle clothing manufacturers do them. They are mostly a rip-off, so I buy from a work wear company.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,469
    masjer said:

    pinno said:

    masjer said:

    Above spf 30 not a lot more happens. 30 blocks 97% 50 blocks 98%. Having said that, I tend to use 50.
    I always wear summer arm sleeves on the bike nowadays.

    'Summer arm sleeves'. Is that a thing?!
    Yeah, most of the cycle clothing manufacturers do them. They are mostly a rip-off, so I buy from a work wear company.
    You mean hard hat, shorts with braces, arm warmers and nothing else sort of work wear?
  • masjer
    masjer Posts: 2,806

    masjer said:

    pinno said:

    masjer said:

    Above spf 30 not a lot more happens. 30 blocks 97% 50 blocks 98%. Having said that, I tend to use 50.
    I always wear summer arm sleeves on the bike nowadays.

    'Summer arm sleeves'. Is that a thing?!
    Yeah, most of the cycle clothing manufacturers do them. They are mostly a rip-off, so I buy from a work wear company.
    You mean hard hat, shorts with braces, arm warmers and nothing else sort of work wear?
    Yes, that sort of place. And no, I don't wear a hard hat instead of a cycle helmet.

    https://bksafetywear.co.uk/result-spiro-s291x-compression-arm-sleeves.html
  • masjer
    masjer Posts: 2,806

    pinno said:

    masjer said:

    Above spf 30 not a lot more happens. 30 blocks 97% 50 blocks 98%. Having said that, I tend to use 50.
    I always wear summer arm sleeves on the bike nowadays.

    'Summer arm sleeves'. Is that a thing?!
    For a while yes. Theory in marketing spraff is that they increase surface area for sweat wicking.

    Personally I think it is the sort of thing a triathlete would use. Perverts.
    I don't wear them for the perviness, just sun protection.