Seemingly trivial things that annoy you

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  • morstar
    morstar Posts: 6,190
    pangolin said:

    Surely most of us acknowledge by now that air quality is not just affected in the immediate vicinity of a car / plane / lorry / factory...

    No. But if the hundreds of miles of UK motorways have a speed limit of 70 other than at times of congestion, randomly reducing the speed limit by 10mph over an arbitrary, rural stretch isn’t going to save us from anything.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Private road innit.

    Doesn’t driving over it at 60 reduce the wear?
  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,668
    morstar said:

    pangolin said:

    Surely most of us acknowledge by now that air quality is not just affected in the immediate vicinity of a car / plane / lorry / factory...

    No. But if the hundreds of miles of UK motorways have a speed limit of 70 other than at times of congestion, randomly reducing the speed limit by 10mph over an arbitrary, rural stretch isn’t going to save us from anything.
    So the annoying thing is that it's not all 60?
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  • morstar
    morstar Posts: 6,190
    pangolin said:

    morstar said:

    pangolin said:

    Surely most of us acknowledge by now that air quality is not just affected in the immediate vicinity of a car / plane / lorry / factory...

    No. But if the hundreds of miles of UK motorways have a speed limit of 70 other than at times of congestion, randomly reducing the speed limit by 10mph over an arbitrary, rural stretch isn’t going to save us from anything.
    So the annoying thing is that it's not all 60?
    Being intentionally obtuse?

    No. If the government made the motorway speed limit 60 on environmental grounds, I could agree or disagree but at least know where I stand.
    I was annoyed at being held to a lower speed for no discernible reason on a very empty motorway.

    Stevo made a reasonable suggestion that it could be environmentally based. I simply pointed out that seemed unlikely given the nature of that bit of road. Generally that happens near built up areas.
  • mully79
    mully79 Posts: 904
    morstar said:

    pangolin said:

    morstar said:

    pangolin said:

    Surely most of us acknowledge by now that air quality is not just affected in the immediate vicinity of a car / plane / lorry / factory...

    No. But if the hundreds of miles of UK motorways have a speed limit of 70 other than at times of congestion, randomly reducing the speed limit by 10mph over an arbitrary, rural stretch isn’t going to save us from anything.
    So the annoying thing is that it's not all 60?
    Being intentionally obtuse?

    No. If the government made the motorway speed limit 60 on environmental grounds, I could agree or disagree but at least know where I stand.
    I was annoyed at being held to a lower speed for no discernible reason on a very empty motorway.

    Stevo made a reasonable suggestion that it could be environmentally based. I simply pointed out that seemed unlikely given the nature of that bit of road. Generally that happens near built up areas.
    I’m sure that the smart motorway we’re talking about was the pilot for using 60mph for all motorway roadworks.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,969
    morstar said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    morstar said:

    Carrying on from Intriguing speed limit encounter on the M6, I also have an annoying one.
    Over the last 4 years or so, the M6 between Stoke and South of Stafford (20-30) miles or so has been smarted.
    I have driven it 4 times in the last 2 weeks and even when empty in the evening, it seems to be permanently set to 60mph.
    Why?

    morstar said:

    Carrying on from Intriguing speed limit encounter on the M6, I also have an annoying one.
    Over the last 4 years or so, the M6 between Stoke and South of Stafford (20-30) miles or so has been smarted.
    I have driven it 4 times in the last 2 weeks and even when empty in the evening, it seems to be permanently set to 60mph.
    Why?

    I've occasionally seem some bollox on the motorway signs about speed being set to 60 to improve air quality. Clearly a lot of people live there...
    I’ve see this in a few places near towns on other roads. I can assure you that you would be incredibly hard stretched to save the lungs of any human by reducing the speed between stoke and south of stafford. It’s endless miles of open fields for most of that stretch.
    Exactly. Unfortunately we don't have a rolleyes emoji any more.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Well given the multi-car pile up on the M6 this morning, the complaints are apt.
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,301
    I've done a number of M6 transits up and down these past several months, another coming Sunday evening.

    The air quality 60 signs I've seen have been around the elevated section through Birmingham, past J6 and upwards. Though usually it's congested and slower anyway.

    The section around Stafford with the continual 60 limit on pretty empty carriageways looks like just a carry over from the roadworks, the lane closures I saw earlier in year have all gone. Still testing the tech?

    And the bit where the works end (southbound after J14?) and national speed limit sign shows does mean 70. I've not been ticketed by cameras when always get back up to 70(ish) after miles and miles of sleep inducing stay at 60.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,295
    Here's the details of the air quality trials. That section of the M6 is not part of it, but junction 6 to 7 is. https://nationalhighways.co.uk/our-work/environment/air-quality-and-noise/air-quality/air-quality-speed-limit-trials/
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,904
    Stevo_666 said:

    morstar said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    morstar said:

    Carrying on from Intriguing speed limit encounter on the M6, I also have an annoying one.
    Over the last 4 years or so, the M6 between Stoke and South of Stafford (20-30) miles or so has been smarted.
    I have driven it 4 times in the last 2 weeks and even when empty in the evening, it seems to be permanently set to 60mph.
    Why?

    morstar said:

    Carrying on from Intriguing speed limit encounter on the M6, I also have an annoying one.
    Over the last 4 years or so, the M6 between Stoke and South of Stafford (20-30) miles or so has been smarted.
    I have driven it 4 times in the last 2 weeks and even when empty in the evening, it seems to be permanently set to 60mph.
    Why?

    I've occasionally seem some bollox on the motorway signs about speed being set to 60 to improve air quality. Clearly a lot of people live there...
    I’ve see this in a few places near towns on other roads. I can assure you that you would be incredibly hard stretched to save the lungs of any human by reducing the speed between stoke and south of stafford. It’s endless miles of open fields for most of that stretch.
    Exactly. Unfortunately we don't have a rolleyes emoji any more.
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  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,904
    morstar said:

    pangolin said:

    morstar said:

    pangolin said:

    Surely most of us acknowledge by now that air quality is not just affected in the immediate vicinity of a car / plane / lorry / factory...

    No. But if the hundreds of miles of UK motorways have a speed limit of 70 other than at times of congestion, randomly reducing the speed limit by 10mph over an arbitrary, rural stretch isn’t going to save us from anything.
    So the annoying thing is that it's not all 60?
    Being intentionally obtuse?

    No. If the government made the motorway speed limit 60 on environmental grounds, I could agree or disagree but at least know where I stand.
    I was annoyed at being held to a lower speed for no discernible reason on a very empty motorway.

    Stevo made a reasonable suggestion that it could be environmentally based. I simply pointed out that seemed unlikely given the nature of that bit of road. Generally that happens near built up areas.
    Out of interest, how many minutes did the 10mph reduction in speed add to your journey?

    You can round up 😉
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  • morstar
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    mully79 said:

    morstar said:

    pangolin said:

    morstar said:

    pangolin said:

    Surely most of us acknowledge by now that air quality is not just affected in the immediate vicinity of a car / plane / lorry / factory...

    No. But if the hundreds of miles of UK motorways have a speed limit of 70 other than at times of congestion, randomly reducing the speed limit by 10mph over an arbitrary, rural stretch isn’t going to save us from anything.
    So the annoying thing is that it's not all 60?
    Being intentionally obtuse?

    No. If the government made the motorway speed limit 60 on environmental grounds, I could agree or disagree but at least know where I stand.
    I was annoyed at being held to a lower speed for no discernible reason on a very empty motorway.

    Stevo made a reasonable suggestion that it could be environmentally based. I simply pointed out that seemed unlikely given the nature of that bit of road. Generally that happens near built up areas.
    I’m sure that the smart motorway we’re talking about was the pilot for using 60mph for all motorway roadworks.
    Quite possibly. Although I’m pretty sure it was 50
    rjsterry said:

    morstar said:

    pangolin said:

    morstar said:

    pangolin said:

    Surely most of us acknowledge by now that air quality is not just affected in the immediate vicinity of a car / plane / lorry / factory...

    No. But if the hundreds of miles of UK motorways have a speed limit of 70 other than at times of congestion, randomly reducing the speed limit by 10mph over an arbitrary, rural stretch isn’t going to save us from anything.
    So the annoying thing is that it's not all 60?
    Being intentionally obtuse?

    No. If the government made the motorway speed limit 60 on environmental grounds, I could agree or disagree but at least know where I stand.
    I was annoyed at being held to a lower speed for no discernible reason on a very empty motorway.

    Stevo made a reasonable suggestion that it could be environmentally based. I simply pointed out that seemed unlikely given the nature of that bit of road. Generally that happens near built up areas.
    Out of interest, how many minutes did the 10mph reduction in speed add to your journey?

    You can round up 😉
    Several hours. I drove it multiple times to see when or if they would turn the signs off.

    But, for clarification, (and I’m amazed how often this needs clarifying), this is the ‘Trivial’ things that annoy thread.

  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,605
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    I’ll adapt and live but it is fücking annoying.
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  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,904
    morstar said:

    mully79 said:

    morstar said:

    pangolin said:

    morstar said:

    pangolin said:

    Surely most of us acknowledge by now that air quality is not just affected in the immediate vicinity of a car / plane / lorry / factory...

    No. But if the hundreds of miles of UK motorways have a speed limit of 70 other than at times of congestion, randomly reducing the speed limit by 10mph over an arbitrary, rural stretch isn’t going to save us from anything.
    So the annoying thing is that it's not all 60?
    Being intentionally obtuse?

    No. If the government made the motorway speed limit 60 on environmental grounds, I could agree or disagree but at least know where I stand.
    I was annoyed at being held to a lower speed for no discernible reason on a very empty motorway.

    Stevo made a reasonable suggestion that it could be environmentally based. I simply pointed out that seemed unlikely given the nature of that bit of road. Generally that happens near built up areas.
    I’m sure that the smart motorway we’re talking about was the pilot for using 60mph for all motorway roadworks.
    Quite possibly. Although I’m pretty sure it was 50
    rjsterry said:

    morstar said:

    pangolin said:

    morstar said:

    pangolin said:

    Surely most of us acknowledge by now that air quality is not just affected in the immediate vicinity of a car / plane / lorry / factory...

    No. But if the hundreds of miles of UK motorways have a speed limit of 70 other than at times of congestion, randomly reducing the speed limit by 10mph over an arbitrary, rural stretch isn’t going to save us from anything.
    So the annoying thing is that it's not all 60?
    Being intentionally obtuse?

    No. If the government made the motorway speed limit 60 on environmental grounds, I could agree or disagree but at least know where I stand.
    I was annoyed at being held to a lower speed for no discernible reason on a very empty motorway.

    Stevo made a reasonable suggestion that it could be environmentally based. I simply pointed out that seemed unlikely given the nature of that bit of road. Generally that happens near built up areas.
    Out of interest, how many minutes did the 10mph reduction in speed add to your journey?

    You can round up 😉
    Several hours. I drove it multiple times to see when or if they would turn the signs off.

    But, for clarification, (and I’m amazed how often this needs clarifying), this is the ‘Trivial’ things that annoy thread.

    😁
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  • rjsterry
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  • schlepcycling
    schlepcycling Posts: 1,614
    morstar said:

    Carrying on from Intriguing speed limit encounter on the M6, I also have an annoying one.
    Over the last 4 years or so, the M6 between Stoke and South of Stafford (20-30) miles or so has been smarted.
    I have driven it 4 times in the last 2 weeks and even when empty in the evening, it seems to be permanently set to 60mph.
    Why?

    They've just recently smarted a section of the M4 (3-12) and are in the process of removing the cones etc but they've announced that a temporary 60mph speed limit will be in place while final testing of the smart technology including stopped vehicle detection takes place, so I assume the same applies to that bit of the M6.
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  • Pross
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  • morstar
    morstar Posts: 6,190

    morstar said:

    Carrying on from Intriguing speed limit encounter on the M6, I also have an annoying one.
    Over the last 4 years or so, the M6 between Stoke and South of Stafford (20-30) miles or so has been smarted.
    I have driven it 4 times in the last 2 weeks and even when empty in the evening, it seems to be permanently set to 60mph.
    Why?

    They've just recently smarted a section of the M4 (3-12) and are in the process of removing the cones etc but they've announced that a temporary 60mph speed limit will be in place while final testing of the smart technology including stopped vehicle detection takes place, so I assume the same applies to that bit of the M6.
    Sounds plausible.
    I have done some testing and can assure them the 60 sign works.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,969
    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    morstar said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    morstar said:

    Carrying on from Intriguing speed limit encounter on the M6, I also have an annoying one.
    Over the last 4 years or so, the M6 between Stoke and South of Stafford (20-30) miles or so has been smarted.
    I have driven it 4 times in the last 2 weeks and even when empty in the evening, it seems to be permanently set to 60mph.
    Why?

    morstar said:

    Carrying on from Intriguing speed limit encounter on the M6, I also have an annoying one.
    Over the last 4 years or so, the M6 between Stoke and South of Stafford (20-30) miles or so has been smarted.
    I have driven it 4 times in the last 2 weeks and even when empty in the evening, it seems to be permanently set to 60mph.
    Why?

    I've occasionally seem some bollox on the motorway signs about speed being set to 60 to improve air quality. Clearly a lot of people live there...
    I’ve see this in a few places near towns on other roads. I can assure you that you would be incredibly hard stretched to save the lungs of any human by reducing the speed between stoke and south of stafford. It’s endless miles of open fields for most of that stretch.
    Exactly. Unfortunately we don't have a rolleyes emoji any more.
    🙄
    Not sure if that's one for the cheeer you up thread instead.
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  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,904
    edited July 2022
    You can just insert emojis from your phone or computer. You're not limited to the ones in the forum.
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  • pangolin
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  • mully79
    mully79 Posts: 904
    rjsterry said:

    morstar said:

    pangolin said:

    morstar said:

    pangolin said:

    Surely most of us acknowledge by now that air quality is not just affected in the immediate vicinity of a car / plane / lorry / factory...

    No. But if the hundreds of miles of UK motorways have a speed limit of 70 other than at times of congestion, randomly reducing the speed limit by 10mph over an arbitrary, rural stretch isn’t going to save us from anything.
    So the annoying thing is that it's not all 60?
    Being intentionally obtuse?

    No. If the government made the motorway speed limit 60 on environmental grounds, I could agree or disagree but at least know where I stand.
    I was annoyed at being held to a lower speed for no discernible reason on a very empty motorway.

    Stevo made a reasonable suggestion that it could be environmentally based. I simply pointed out that seemed unlikely given the nature of that bit of road. Generally that happens near built up areas.
    Out of interest, how many minutes did the 10mph reduction in speed add to your journey?

    You can round up 😉
    20 minutes per day, every day for 3 months so at least 20 hours B)
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,904
    Not sure over what distance the lower limit applies, but at 60, 42 miles takes 6 minutes longer than at 70. About 8.6 seconds a mile. The entire M6 toll road is only 27 miles long, so it couldn't add 20 minutes to your journey unless you are operating some sort of shuttle service. Definitely trivial
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  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,079
    School/nursery letters. It's going to be hot on Monday/Tuesday, so we may need to send kids home early, so they can be hot at home instead. Health and safety etc.
  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,668

    School/nursery letters. It's going to be hot on Monday/Tuesday, so we may need to send kids home early, so they can be hot at home instead. Health and safety etc.

    Ours emailed us this week (Monday I think) to tell us that because it was hot they were keeping the kids inside, but could we please pick them up early so they could have some time at home in a paddling pool etc. Obviously gardens are cooler at home.
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  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,632
    pangolin said:

    School/nursery letters. It's going to be hot on Monday/Tuesday, so we may need to send kids home early, so they can be hot at home instead. Health and safety etc.

    Ours emailed us this week (Monday I think) to tell us that because it was hot they were keeping the kids inside, but could we please pick them up early so they could have some time at home in a paddling pool etc. Obviously gardens are cooler at home.
    What if they live in a flat?
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  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,079
    Apparently, it will be too hot to decorate next week as well. This country really doesn't cope well with vaguely cold or hot weather.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,295
    I'm willing to move beyond "vaguely hot" for 40C.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,941

    I'm willing to move beyond "vaguely hot" for 40C.

    Yeah, you're right. That's 'distinctly warm'.
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,079

    I'm willing to move beyond "vaguely hot" for 40C.

    How much of the world doesn't have 40c temperatures every year? If it is 30c in the Arctic will humans melt?