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  • k-dog
    k-dog Posts: 1,652
    Ah, that well known Kenyan powerlifter?
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  • twotoebenny
    twotoebenny Posts: 1,542
    Anybody watching women's 10k race...
  • dinyull
    dinyull Posts: 2,979
    No, what's happening?
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,435
    Nah watching the rowing... What's happened?
  • twotoebenny
    twotoebenny Posts: 1,542
    WR from Ethiopian, hardly even breathing when she was finished, lapping world class athletes!
  • adambruntlett
    adambruntlett Posts: 257
    Smashed the world record, lapped world class athletes and looked like it was all a breeze. Not normal.
  • dinyull
    dinyull Posts: 2,979
    Taken 15 seconds off a WR that has stood since 1993 whilst lapping a world class athlete's haha.
  • webboo
    webboo Posts: 6,087
    adambruntlett wrote:
    Smashed the world record, lapped world class athletes and looked like it was all a breeze. Not normal.
    I was just going to post the same. Other worldly.
  • neonriver
    neonriver Posts: 228
    Interesting quote from Brendan Foster not normally one for speaking out

    "You see things pushed along sometimes - you think of Bob Beamon in the long jump - but I'm not sure what to make of that to be honest. I will be interested to hear what Ayana has to say afterwards."
  • dinyull
    dinyull Posts: 2,979
    neonriver wrote:
    Interesting quote from Brendan Foster not normally one for speaking out

    "You see things pushed along sometimes - you think of Bob Beamon in the long jump - but I'm not sure what to make of that to be honest. I will be interested to hear what Ayana has to say afterwards."

    Just about to post the same.

    Having a quick look on twitter, apparently it's one of the more "dirty" records in athletics she's just smashed too.
  • lostboysaint
    lostboysaint Posts: 4,250
    And the Kenyans breathe a sigh of relief as the attention shifts from them........
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  • dinyull
    dinyull Posts: 2,979
    Ayana ran a 14:30 second half - quicker than Olympic 5000m record & the first half would have won 3 of the 5 previous Olympic 5000m finals

    From Tom Fordyce:
    The Estadio Olimpico still in shock after that 10,000m final. 18 personal bests in that field. Leaders through 5k in 14.46, and then knocking out a negative split of 14.31 in the second half. A world record from a questionable era smashed by 14 seconds, by a woman racing over the distance for only the second time in her life. Remarkable.
  • Crozza
    Crozza Posts: 991
    The record she broke was set by a Chinese athlete in 1993, during a period of a year or two when a couple of athletes appeared from nowhere, smashed loads of records, then disappeared without trace. the old record was something like 30 seconds better than anything else before or since (until today)

    the only slight saving grace here is that another athlete (a Kenyan :wink: ) was only one second outside the old record, and another Ethiopian (and ddefending Champion) was another 15 seconds back in a lifetime best. so possibly just a very fast race amongst a rich vein of talent

    yes, that's what it must be
  • slim_boy_fat
    slim_boy_fat Posts: 1,810
    Crozza wrote:
    The record she broke was set by a Chinese athlete in 1993, during a period of a year or two when a couple of athletes appeared from nowhere, smashed loads of records, then disappeared without trace. the old record was something like 30 seconds better than anything else before or since (until today)

    the only slight saving grace here is that another athlete (a Kenyan :wink: ) was only one second outside the old record, and another Ethiopian (and ddefending Champion) was another 15 seconds back in a lifetime best. so possibly just a very fast race amongst a rich vein of talent

    yes, that's what it must be

    Or, the track is short :wink:
  • Crozza
    Crozza Posts: 991
    Fenix wrote:
    The explanation I'd read was that the coach wasn't staying in the athletes village and borrowed a runners credentials to go and use the foodhall there.

    On the way the testers nabbed him and thinking he was the athlete they were after he had to do the test...

    it sounds dodgy but I can imagine that his initial reaction to being "caught" tucking into the buffet was to lie again to cover it up - we've all been there. reminds me of this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhv9HJaA67c
  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,064
    Just watched that race and whilst I'm not one to point the finger without evidence, point point point

    No way
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,464
    Just listening to it on the radio was dodgy. Sure, she's been top of the tree for a while and was a dead cert favourite but that' was a very dubious record and middle / long distance world records usually get broken at meets where there are pace makers and large sums of cash on offer, not finals of major champs!
  • ocdupalais
    ocdupalais Posts: 4,317
    One of the most incredible bits of long distance running you're ever likely to see, said Brendan and Steve.
    Its the standard ambiguous response. Or is it.

    Trouble is for Foster is that's he was always bessie mates with Haile Gebrselassie; so any talk of ingrained naughtiness in Ethiopia could make for some unseemliness and woe.
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,657
    I'm convinced the track is short. Just 1m and you'd wipe 25m off the distance, which is a huge amount of time.
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    edited August 2016
    Pross wrote:
    Just listening to it on the radio was dodgy. Sure, she's been top of the tree for a while and was a dead cert favourite but that' was a very dubious record and middle / long distance world records usually get broken at meets where there are pace makers and large sums of cash on offer, not finals of major champs!

    One point to make - the 10000m is rarely run at big meets outside major championships - so challenges to records are few and far between.

    But still...
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  • Crozza
    Crozza Posts: 991
    No tA Doctor wrote:
    I'm convinced the track is short. Just 1m and you'd wipe 25m off the distance, which is a huge amount of time.

    if the track was 1m longer, she'd still have broken the WR. she'd have broken it if it were 3m longer
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,657
    Crozza wrote:
    No tA Doctor wrote:
    I'm convinced the track is short. Just 1m and you'd wipe 25m off the distance, which is a huge amount of time.

    if the track was 1m longer, she'd still have broken the WR. she'd have broken it if it were 3m longer

    1m was just for demonstration of the distances involved. 4m shorter and nobody would be making a fuss tonight. The fact that so many athletes broke records suggests that the race was unusual in ways not only related to the winner.
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  • Crozza
    Crozza Posts: 991
    No tA Doctor wrote:
    Crozza wrote:
    No tA Doctor wrote:
    I'm convinced the track is short. Just 1m and you'd wipe 25m off the distance, which is a huge amount of time.

    if the track was 1m longer, she'd still have broken the WR. she'd have broken it if it were 3m longer

    1m was just for demonstration of the distances involved. 4m shorter and nobody would be making a fuss tonight. The fact that so many athletes broke records suggests that the race was unusual in ways not only related to the winner.

    good point

    and Katerina Johnson-Thompson has just broken the British high jump record, and she's not even a high jumper

    which proves that as well as being shorter, the track is also taller :?

    :wink:
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,657
    Crozza wrote:
    No tA Doctor wrote:
    Crozza wrote:
    No tA Doctor wrote:
    I'm convinced the track is short. Just 1m and you'd wipe 25m off the distance, which is a huge amount of time.

    if the track was 1m longer, she'd still have broken the WR. she'd have broken it if it were 3m longer

    1m was just for demonstration of the distances involved. 4m shorter and nobody would be making a fuss tonight. The fact that so many athletes broke records suggests that the race was unusual in ways not only related to the winner.

    good point

    and Katerina Johnson-Thompson has just broken the British high jump record, and she's not even a high jumper

    which proves that as well as being shorter, the track is also taller :?

    :wink:

    I think that what's going on is they got a load of measuring tapes from the same Chinese manufacturer that mucked up the Chinese flag. They also supplied the chemicals for the pool...
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  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,435
    Apparently her last 5k would have been an Olympic record in it's own right...
  • k-dog
    k-dog Posts: 1,652
    I've also heard that the track is downhill all the way round. That makes things a lot easier.
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  • shinyhelmut
    shinyhelmut Posts: 1,364
    which proves that as well as being shorter, the track is also taller :?

    Surely it proves the track is shorter, not taller?
  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    OCDuPalais wrote:
    One of the most incredible bits of long distance running you're ever likely to see, said Brendan and Steve.
    Its the standard ambiguous response. Or is it.

    Trouble is for Foster is that's he was always bessie mates with Haile Gebrselassie; so any talk of ingrained naughtiness in Ethiopia could make for some unseemliness and woe.

    I had the 'pleasure' of listening to Foster commentate after the first ARD, and lost count of the number of times he said it was pretty much totally clean and it was all nonsense. Cram not much better until it became blindingly obvious.
  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,064
    womans Russia vs China no cheating there
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  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,930
    Have they measured the track yet?

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