Team Sky- position on doping
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ddraver wrote:Walsh On Brailsford
@DavidWalshST - Yesterday's meeting with Dave Brailsford? We spoke for 4 hours;he is bright, interesting and, I believe, committed to clean programme.
@DavidWalshST - The whole Leinders affair was shocking. He talked about it at length, pointed out his mistake and his willingness to explain was admirable.
Reactions from the Twitter Taliban to their Glorious Leader praising their worst enemy is hilarious!
Haha! They really are beside themselves with frustration, arent they. Its too funny
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ddraver wrote:I actually got a quite even response from UCI-Overlord - perhaps he's learnt something!
Would be a bleeding miracle :roll:0 -
Mick Rogers is going to Saxo.
So the rumours Sky were giving him time to find a team was trueFckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.0 -
iainf72 wrote:Mick Rogers is going to Saxo.
So the rumours Sky were giving him time to find a team was true
Sure to help them get that final, WT spot.
Oooh, the irony."Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
Blazing Saddles wrote:iainf72 wrote:Mick Rogers is going to Saxo.
So the rumours Sky were giving him time to find a team was true
Sure to help them get that final, WT spot.
Oooh, the irony.
No, too late for his points to help - way past the deadline.
Well, it was inevitable, he had to go.
What he needs to worry about now is the big Aussie investigation.0 -
Yeah, that was one of my first thoughts.
Interestingly, Richard Moore's just tweeted that he'd understood that Rogers had renewed with Sky. And a couple of cycling journos have just pointed out that the Danish source for the Rogers-Saxo 'story' is known for its dud 'facts'...So let's see whether there's an official confirmation from Saxo.0 -
Lol. Really don't want that rider at Saxo - cowardly doper. Must have picked him up on the cheap.
What will Sky do when 'Micky not riding on the front at a tempo no rider not on drugs could beat'. Fun times.Contador is the Greatest0 -
frenchfighter wrote:Lol. Really don't want that rider at Saxo - cowardly doper. Must have picked him up on the cheap.
What will Sky do when 'Micky not riding on the front at a tempo no rider not on drugs could beat'. Fun times.
Oh the irony, the irony. Post of the year for irony, Frenchie. Bertie can teach most people about cowardly dopers - if there was a rainbow jersey handed out for it, he'd have a wardrobe full of 'em0 -
frenchfighter wrote:Lol. Really don't want that rider at Saxo - cowardly doper. Must have picked him up on the cheap.
What will Sky do when 'Micky not riding on the front at a tempo no rider not on drugs could beat'. Fun times.
Mmm, he'll be at home with Contador then 0 -
Needed an Aussie to fire up the BBQ to cook the steak...
Steak!
Contador!
Drugs!
Eh?
Eh?“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
TailWindHome wrote:Needed an Aussie to fire up the BBQ to cook the steak...
Steak!
Contador!
Drugs!
Eh?
Eh?
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frenchfighter wrote:Lol. Really don't want that rider at Saxo - cowardly doper. Must have picked him up on the cheap.
What will Sky do when 'Micky not riding on the front at a tempo no rider not on drugs could beat'. Fun times. You live and learn. At any rate, you live0 -
I know this isn't the right place, but more Contador comedy gold for Frenchie to chew on:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/lopez-c ... federation"Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
Looks like rumours were true and Dan Hunt's moving over full time on the coaching front.
Still no DS replacements though. The remaining 4 are gonna to be bloody busy.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/sky-sti ... ur-sportif0 -
Rod Ellingworth is expected to take over some DS duties throughout the year it seems. He is expected to be leaving the BC track pogram so seems like a fairly good natural progression for him.0
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Who do they have left? Portal, Ljunqvist, Knaven (presumably staying), am I forgetting anyone?
I guess Arvesen isn't interested.0 -
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Yeah, Arvesen will be around.
I thought Rod E had ruled himself out of DS'ing other than being in the car as race coach. But I'd imagine needs must and all that.
Out of curiosity, I went to look at the team support staff names on the Sky site (Arvesen's missing but am assuming there's nothing to read into that as I dont think they've had him listed there at all this year), and 4 team doctors listed up there. None of those nasty suss Euros
- all Brits and Irish peeps. 0 -
Yeah I'm sure Arvesen and Ellingworth are capable, assuming they can do it without interfering with their coaching work.
Cioni, the other internal option, maybe not suited/interested.0 -
This may have been posted before. Hard to know as so many threads are starting to look the same....
Bradley goes off message?Bradley Wiggins has told Sky Sports News there must be a role within cycling for some reformed drug cheats.
The Tour de France winner is part of a Team Sky outfit which has a zero tolerance policy towards doping, and the litany of Lance Armstrong revelations left him "sad" and "angered".
But Wiggins worked with Bobby Julich and Steven de Jongh at Sky before both admitted past doping offences and resigned their positions, while convicted doper David Millar was a Team GB colleague at last summer's Olympic Games.
And the Londoner believes genuinely reformed cyclists can help in the ongoing fight to keep cycling clean.
Wiggins: Sad and angry at Armstrong
He said: "We've had this zero tolerance from the point we started and we've never veered off that, to the point that riders who've admitted to problems in the past have moved on.
"But I don't think it's about (putting heads on blocks). People make mistakes in life, and a lot of these people have made decisions 10-15 years ago which are coming back to haunt them. They can't be vilified for that in some areas.
"Bobby Julich is a classic example - in 1998 he finished third in the Tour de France, he's admitted to doping and has now moved on from the team.
"While he served his time here was 100% an advocate of anti-doping as someone who'd experienced it and been put under pressure to do what he did back in '98.
"I think in some cases the reformed characters - David Millar and that - as people who've actually experienced it they can help youngsters on the way not to go, and I think in a way we need some of those people within this sport."
http://www1.skysports.com/cycling/news/ ... wrong-path“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
Pffft, Look guys he's a bike rider, not a politician and Sky are a sports team not a political party.
There are going to be many ways and probably many attempts to skin this particular cat. Getting uppity or suspicious because people have opinions is not going to help matters.We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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I'm sure that a number of the riders who've been with the team a little while, do feel that its a pity that someone like Bobby Julich have had to go. At least it shows they're not unfeeling automatons. But they know its the policy that's been laid out so...
In this week's Comic, there's a major feature on Sky's Service Course and interview with Andy Verrell who manages it. Asked about the end of year team boot camp in Oct with all the riders and staff when DB restated Sky's commitment to anti-doping, he said they thought that was it for them all, 'the Lance stuff had just broken and we thought that was the end of pro cycling. So having everyone confirm their commitment was really positive'0 -
ddraver wrote:Pffft, Look guys he's a bike rider, not a politician and Sky are a sports team not a political party.
There are going to be many ways and probably many attempts to skin this particular cat. Getting uppity or suspicious because people have opinions is not going to help matters.
Not sure I was getting either uppity or suspicious. Thought the fact that the team leader was voicing an opinion contrary to the well publicised team policy was worth posting
I tend to agree with Brad on this one, however the problem is sorting the 'bad' dopers from the 'good dopers'.Wiggins wrote:"Bobby Julich <snip> "While he served his time here was 100% an advocate of anti-doping as someone who'd experienced it and been put under pressure to do what he did back in '98.
Thought this was interesting. Wiggins seems to suggest that Julich had been open with the team (or at least the riders) regarding his doping experiences. That should give the suspicious something to get uppity about
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
'Thought this was interesting. Wiggins seems to suggest that Julich had been open with the team (or at least the riders) regarding his doping experiences. That should give the suspicious something to get uppity about'
Could be interpreted that Julich might have mentioned to some of the riders what it was like riding against doped riders in that era, without him actually saying 'and I was one of them'. Or simply Brad's saying Bobby J was a strong advocate of AD, and with hindsight his admission put that into the context of his own expereinces.
This isnt aimed at you, TWH, not at all, but for some the very fact that the team breathes, is enough to fuel their suspicions. There is no other current team whose every single word is dissected and poured over ad nauseum, to then be interpreted to suit some engrained view. Not even remotely close.0 -
TailWindHome wrote:Thought the fact that the team leader was voicing an opinion contrary to the well publicised team policy was worth posting
So what if he does?We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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Richmond Racer wrote:This isnt aimed at you, TWH, not at all, but for some the very fact that the team breathes, is enough to fuel their suspicions. There is no other current team whose every single word is dissected and poured over ad nauseum, to then be interpreted to suit some engrained view. Not even remotely close.
True.
The sheer weight of sh*te posted is impressive.ddraver wrote:TailWindHome wrote:Thought the fact that the team leader was voicing an opinion contrary to the well publicised team policy was worth posting
So what if he does?
What can I say DD. I thought it was interesting, you didn't.
Do you need a new job? You always seem to be a bit grumpy on a Monday morning “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
on the other hand, I'm about to start coffee number 3 and am fairly chipper.
The season's started, Qatar in 6 days time - I know, I know - but echelons a single redeeming feature, plus seeing Cav in action; and Challenge Mallorca also starts on Sun (have a bit of a soft spot for this race).
Come on ddraver, cheer up a bit chap 0
