US Presidential election

MaxwellBygraves

It's about time we had a thread on the US election...

It's less than a month to go before Americans go to the polls to elect their 45th President on Nov. 6th.

Standing for the Democrat Party, incumbent President Barack Obama seeking a second term in office.

Standing for the Republican Party, former governor of Massachusetts, Mitt Romney.

The campaign is heating up, especially after the first televised debate last week. There's two more debates to go before polling day.

Obama has led in the polls for quite a long time but since the first debate Romney has closed the gap substantially. It's worth keeping your eye on this blog: http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/ which has lots of useful information.

Their Nov.6 forecast says its a 60-40 split in favour of Obama to win. Only a few weeks ago it was 80-20 Obama.


So who do you think will win? Who do you want to win?

kleinstroker

Who will win?? Easy, the person prepared to bend the truth the most to suit his goals. I feel truly sorry for those Americans that have a brain in that they are governed by and live in a country full of those that do not. I seriously hope Obama wins, but I think it unlikely. Essentially the USA is pretty right wing and that usually means the republicans have an easy day at the ballots, so long as they don't say anything stupid like equal rights for minorities and women!!

ilm_zero7

prepare for another cold war if Romney wins - twit

daviesee

ILM Zero7 wrote:

prepare for another cold war if Romney wins - twit

That, unfortunately, is an understatement.

IMHO Obama is style over substance but at least with a lack of substance little harm can come.
Romney is dangerous, and mostly because he doesn't know it.

cornerblock

Mmm, uncanny.

simona75

Just back from the US and things seem in full swing. I think it will be close but as ever will come down to the two key battleground states (Florida and Ohio). It's always more watchable than our General Election

MaxwellBygraves

simona75 wrote:

Just back from the US and things seem in full swing. I think it will be close but as ever will come down to the two key battleground states (Florida and Ohio). It's always more watchable than our General Election

What's the feeling out there? Who's got the momentum?

simona75

Depends which news station you watch

I'd say that Romney put Obama on the backfoot a couple of times in the first debate and has huge campaign funds. However there's still a feeling that the Obama has a lot more ammo in his locker

Frank the tank

I really don't want Romney to win.

MaxwellBygraves

simona75 wrote:

Depends which news station you watch

I'd say that Romney put Obama on the backfoot a couple of times in the first debate and has huge campaign funds. However there's still a feeling that the Obama has a lot more ammo in his locker

Interesting info, thanks

MaxwellBygraves

The amount of money being discussed here is staggering: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/oc ... bate-boost

Pross

At the time of the last election I thought the general expectation was that Obama was going to save the US and then save the world and as a result would be made president for life! I think a large number of voters expected so much from him that he was never going to be able to deliver and are now disillusioned. As a result he will lose a substantial part of his majority but will cling on for a second term - at least that's what I hope as the alternative is worse.

MaxwellBygraves

Some good resources here: http://www.270towin.com/ & http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/

Redhog14

As I said at the time that Obama was elected and everyone was queuing up to fellate him for saving the world, the greatest irony of all would be for him to be "just another politician". <insert sumg smiley> I still can't believe Mercans' negative attitude to the healthcare reforms though.

The sad thing is Romney may be the guy to start the US economy again from which the entire world will prosper however I don't think he has a right atttude on foreign policy and so for that reason I'm out.

BA for me.

Having worked in the travel and tourism industry I don't think the septics are thicker than any other nation per se, they just seem to be so confident in themselves that their own ignorance of things doesn't occur to them.

MaxwellBygraves

If the rest of the world could vote...

dirtymonkey1985

Romney looks like he could do more damage than good 'ol Bush! That's no mean feat :?

verylonglegs

Trying to think why Pakistan are more in favour of Romney?

daviesee

verylonglegs wrote:

Trying to think why Pakistan are more in favour of Romney?

Would Romney keep a military presence in Afghanistan?
What will happen in Iran?
Both border Pakistan.

verylonglegs

daviesee wrote:

verylonglegs wrote:

Trying to think why Pakistan are more in favour of Romney?

Would Romney keep a military presence in Afghanistan?
What will happen in Iran?
Both border Pakistan.

That's the thing, I know they aren't happy with the US operating it's drones and being able to bomb people in their country at will but do they think having Romney in power will mean less of this?

daviesee

verylonglegs wrote:

daviesee wrote:

verylonglegs wrote:

That's the thing, I know they aren't happy with the US operating it's drones and being able to bomb people in their country at will but do they think having Romney in power will mean less of this?

They probably want someone to keep on top of the Taliban and Iran, even if there are some prices to pay.
Romney is more likely to sabre rattle.
That's what worries me.

DevonClimber

Please, America, do not vote in someone who believes in the Planet Kolob. I will give you a clue, it is not Obama.

sadlybiggins

coincidentally, it's Bolok backwards

Ron Stuart

The amount of money that is being squandered on this election by a nation that has many of it's residents being thrown out of their homes and ending up living in beaten up cars is a bloody crime in itself.
The really scarey thing is how we here seem to adopt most of there awful bloody traits.
This is the guy who kick started the collapse: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_Friedman

ps. Can Mitt Romney serve two masters? :shock:

simona75

Good speech by Obama this afternoon in Iowa. Whatever you think of his policies you have to admire his oratory skills

MaxwellBygraves

Would your vote make a difference? http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/interac ... 0/r0/e0/l0

finchy

Babies born from rape are a gift from God:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/oc ... rks-romney

Except that women don't get pregnant from "legitimate rape" (and this man's on the House Science Committee)

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/20/us/po ... .html?_r=0

Where the hell do the reps get these nutcases?

finchy

And while we're on the subject of republicans on science committees:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Broun ... of_Hell.22

Mike Healey

johnfinch wrote:

And while we're on the subject of republicans on science committees:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Broun ... of_Hell.22

Has deep belief in the need for a Saviour.

Is currently on his fourth wife :?:

OffTheBackAdam

I give you a remake of the "South Park" take.

Ron Stuart

Remember a lot of what goes on over there also ends up here....
http://crankalicious.hubpages.com/hub/W ... ns-Believe
A lot of British companies are sponsors in the American Elections, Thatcher and Reagan both used the same Milton Friedman economic polices which have led to the current world wide economic crash, so don't think it can't happen here.... it does.
Most of us great British tax payers (apart from the money manipulators of course) are currently going through hell whilst those in power are busy trying to kick start the same old failed system again. Why you may ask, well basically it made a small minority very rich but it was a vehicle that couldn't be controlled (market forces) and ended up killing off those of us that fed this great greedy beast with it's insatiable appetite.
Apart from letting in a whole bunch of nutters/hypocrites in by voting republican it also lets a whole bunch of people who don't believe in any form of personal or collective responsibility for there actions, which is why they are so fond of going to war and exploiting others.
Does the company where you work sponsor political parties :?:

MaxwellBygraves

I think this little girl sums up how a lot of Americans are probably feeling: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/11 ... 55015.html

The FiveThirtyEight Blog has Obama up to 80% chance of winning in their forecast with only a few days to go...(http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/)