Minister insulting Police
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Unacceptable behaviour, but...
When cycling, why was he not allowed to use the vehicular gate? Was he full of self importance for kicking off or was the officer effectively bullying a cyclist?
I'm not tory supporter but I don't think is quite so black and white as it is portrayed by the media.
When cycling, why was he not allowed to use the vehicular gate? Was he full of self importance for kicking off or was the officer effectively bullying a cyclist?
I'm not tory supporter but I don't think is quite so black and white as it is portrayed by the media.
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Not the right colour.
I'd be more suspicious of him as a modern day politician if he didn't behave like that really, such is my low opinion of them these days.
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So if he'd rolled up in a ministerial limo would they have opened the gate ? Or would they have said have said sorry that's a security risk you'll have to exit your vehicle and walk through the pedestrian gate ?
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Of course not but good security is all about taking no greater risk than absolutely necessary. It was no great inconvenience for him to go through the pedestrian gate and so he should have wound his neck in and done as he was told.
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It's not that he got angry with a policeman it's that he called him 'a ducking pleb'.
Are you serious? Of course they'd of opened the gates. How do you get a car through the pedestrian gate. :roll:
No, he's right, you can get a car into Downing Street but not out, so at the end are stacks and stacks of cars which have amassed over the years, its becoming a massive problem.
Except they'd already opened it for him three times that day.
They just decided that he didn't matter cos he was on a bicycle.
Shock horror, someone is rude to the police who aren't exactly either the flavour of the moment or entirely squeaky clean at any point on the last century.
If he broke the law, arrest him. If he hasn't then grow a pair. I think they are just in shock to find that someone has told them where to get off and are even more horrified to find they probably cannot touch him.
The 'security risk' argument is rubbish. They've done it before and they could have done it again as there was no heightened security status. If there had been, they would have already used that excuse.
Just a plod deciding to be inconsistent and to throw his authority around against someone whose respect he hasn't earned.
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However, as a government minister he should not behave as he did towards the policeman.
If the police don't command the respect of ministers how on earth can the police expect any respect from the rest of us fcukin' plebs. :roll:
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Another troll :roll: the security measures is valid. Opening those gates requires armed officers to secure the junction and should only be done for vehicle entry and egress, a feckin bike doesn't need to go through the vehicle gates and create a risk of a car born device being driven through.
You don't like the police; by your rhetoric I dare say they aren't keen you.
Non news IMO and a waste of airtime.
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Speak for yourself
When talking about class you would be hard pushed to say the policeman was in the same class as the MP, and that isn’t the issue.
However to call someone of a lower class a ‘ducking pleb’ with all lack of respect is very telling. It’s an indication that he (and most like other tories (and other politicians too no doubt)) feels superior to the policeman, that he is above him, that he rules over him, almost to the extent he views him an underclass not worthy of his respect.
If a politician doesn’t represent the underclass, which make up maybe 90% of the population you have to question how much they actually believe ‘we are all in this together’.
Exactly, the perception of class.
That said, I use the word Pleb, but It doesn't carry any connotations of class, so can you be sure that it did here ? The answer to that is no you can't, you can only speculate; so the offence should just be that of verbal assault (or what ever its called), just as it would be if he'd called the police officer a F*cking Pr*ck.
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If he had called the policeman a censored , then this would be less of an issue for me. Everyone gets angry and most people will show that anger via communication.
Why did he choose he word pleb instead of censored ? Like you say who knows, but you would like to think that an intelligent man would be able to communicate his feelings.
I don’t like the idea that we are governed by elitist people who seemingly have no respect for the vast majority, whilst at the same time being told by those same people ‘we are all in this together’.