Lance Armstrong gets life ban,loses 7 TDF,confesses he doped
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Armstrong reacted to the Charlie Hebdo atrocity by tweeting “ParisSTRONG” a pun as painfully self-referential and egotistical as he could possibly have made under the circumstances
what a lunatic0 -
There's nothing illuminating or even satirical about drawing a cartoon of a cyclist with a needle in his bum. It's a cheap, obvious gag that would get cut out of Mock The Week.NervexProf wrote:Another contemporary slant - http://www.theguardian.com/sport/100-to ... le-perfectTwitter: @RichN950 -
the article don wrote:What a stand up guy after all. He never cheats at golf, apparently
10 handicap is crap for someone claiming to play 250 times a year.
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/d ... en-cycling
I agree.250 rounds of golf takes 20 plus hours a week on a golf course.
I think a 10 handicap at golf is about a 10 mile TT in 26 min. Not bad is you only ride your bike every now and then but if you spend 20+ hours a week training it is crap.0 -
Whilst it really pains me to defend the man, it is a genuine hashtag rather than just his hubriscoriordan wrote:Armstrong reacted to the Charlie Hebdo atrocity by tweeting “ParisSTRONG” a pun as painfully self-referential and egotistical as he could possibly have made under the circumstances
what a lunatic
https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/pariss ... 6706959698
Apparently there was a similar #BostonStrong against the marathon bombing there, so it's following that vein0 -
Damn I've been drawn into a debate about Armstong's golf handicap.
Does the article state when he took the game up? Has he effectively come down from a 28 to a 10 in less than a year? Does it explain how many competitions he enters each week to reduce his handicap? How difficult are the courses he plays? I played a lot of courses out in the US (mainly around Florida and California) and there is a significant difference. A 10 handicapper on some of the Florida courses would struggle to play to that handicap over in California, some of the Florida courses are set up nice and easy. The weather is pretty stable so less challenging.
A golf handicap isn't a nominal figure based on how well your last game was. A 10 handicap is pretty good in my opinion. I would say that Armstrong is probably playing 3 or 4 rounds a week.
He could also be a bandit, close to scratch but winning all the club comps by keeping a higher handicap!0 -
He's certainly been playing for a few years - I remember him mentioning it in an interview - probably 4 or 5 at least.I'm left handed, if that matters.0
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A 10 handicap is shyte, utter shyte on preened and manicured bastardisations of real golf courses. I know scratch golfers locally who play all year round on proper links courses with narrow fairways, acres of Gorse, bunkers the size of Widdicombe's 4rse, fairways that resemble out of bounds in the US, rock outcrops and prevailing Westerlies who don't rate themselves.
BTW - have you seen the amount of green dye strewn around Augusta? ...and another thing, when the open is held at Turnberry or Carnoustie or St Andrew's and the weather is bad, all the yanks moan like heck. One year, they swore they would never play gain at Carnoustie 'cos they had to put up with a bit of wind and rain.
There is no comparison between American Golf Courses and proper Scottish Courses.seanoconn - gruagach craic!0 -
pinarello001 wrote:A 10 handicap is shyte, utter shyte on preened and manicured bastardisations of real golf courses. I know scratch golfers locally who play all year round on proper links courses with narrow fairways, acres of Gorse, bunkers the size of Widdicombe's 4rse, fairways that resemble out of bounds in the US, rock outcrops and prevailing Westerlies who don't rate themselves.
BTW - have you seen the amount of green dye strewn around Augusta? ...and another thing, when the open is held at Turnberry or Carnoustie or St Andrew's and the weather is bad, all the yanks moan like heck. One year, they swore they would never play gain at Carnoustie 'cos they had to put up with a bit of wind and rain.
There is no comparison between American Golf Courses and proper Scottish Courses.
That's been building for a while.“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
I feel better now I have got it off my chest.
Tell that Lancey boy Stephen Hendry is a scratch golfer who plays on proper golf courses. Ta.seanoconn - gruagach craic!0 -
To be fair Hendry's got a proven record of getting balls into small holes.pinarello001 wrote:I feel better now I have got it off my chest.
Tell that Lancey boy Stephen Hendry is a scratch golfer who plays on proper golf courses. Ta.Twitter: @RichN950 -
At least he's got balls0
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Jesus wept, LA can't even play golf without getting grief ...Life is unfair, kill yourself or get over it.0
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looked through some old threads on here and found this from when his comeback was announced.
"I hope this is true. With all the bad press the sports been getting in recent years, it needs a new elevation. I know the French will hound him about drugs and fire wild accusations like before, but I think most people out their will be egging him on and supporting him. The guys a real ambassador and an idol for many.
Fair play to him, despite the ego."0 -
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Far from it. In one place he claims to have wronged a dozen people and in another a handful - could just be a sign of ignorance though.
He also still denies doping during his comeback.0 -
Time is right for him. His attitude towards certain people is inexcusable and should never be forgiven but other than that I think he should be cut some slack. He's served his time, the bloke can still do a lot of good in the world given a chance.0
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Slim Boy Fat wrote:Time is right for him. His attitude towards certain people is inexcusable and should never be forgiven but other than that I think he should be cut some slack. He's served his time, the bloke can still do a lot of good in the world given a chance.
Errr.... Was there something in the phrase "lifetime ban" that I misunderstood?Warning No formatter is installed for the format0 -
I was more referring to serving his time as the devil incarnate. He's banned from sport for life, don't see that changing.No tA Doctor wrote:Slim Boy Fat wrote:Time is right for him. His attitude towards certain people is inexcusable and should never be forgiven but other than that I think he should be cut some slack. He's served his time, the bloke can still do a lot of good in the world given a chance.
Errr.... Was there something in the phrase "lifetime ban" that I misunderstood?0 -
Whatever he says is self-serving. He's a knob. And no, I don't blame him for the doping, under the same circumstances I'm pretty sure I would have done as well. But attitude...0
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I remember that the thoughts at the time he made his comeback were that he wanted to get back in the USA public's celebrity stakes for a run in their political fields.Slim Boy Fat wrote:
I was more referring to serving his time as the devil incarnate. He's banned from sport for life, don't see that changing.No tA Doctor wrote:Slim Boy Fat wrote:Time is right for him. His attitude towards certain people is inexcusable and should never be forgiven but other than that I think he should be cut some slack. He's served his time, the bloke can still do a lot of good in the world given a chance.
Errr.... Was there something in the phrase "lifetime ban" that I misunderstood?
Then the "Comeback Trail" misfired with the attention of him and his powerful drug regime.
My point is that he should never have any credibility with any forgiveness because he will "Cash In" again on his Fraudulent past.
Keep the Life Ban prevalent and his name as Scum.Organiser, National Championship 50 mile Time Trial 19720 -
“(the comeback) it was one of the biggest mistakes of my life. And I don’t have a good reason for why I wanted to come back. I don’t have a good reason at all”
Well. It seems to have escaped his mind that at the time he said he was coming back for some kind of 'fight against cancer' whatever that is. Well, of course he didn't come back for that reason either.
Fairdoos when you've come to expect horseshit to come out of the guy's mouth, he never disappoints.0 -
He doesn't seem to have changed at all really- still not acknowledging that he's done any wrong (other than being caught :roll: )
I think it's all a great shame what he's done- he obviously has enormous willpower and determination- even with the drugs he's obviously had to put in a huge effort to come back into the peloton after his cancer, and may well have been a formidable cyclist without them- probably not x7 tour winning but then we'll never know.
But he's taken that tungsten will and determination down the wrong road, it seems almost desperation to win and be the best no matter what, or who you have to crush along the way. That's what I hate about the man- he could have been a great force for cycling but instead becomes the exact opposite.0 -
Plenty of other champions doped up to the eyeballs and lied about it. They simply didn't have their Andreu's, Walsh and all the other blackmailers.
also chasing down a breakaway is also now considered to be bullying.0 -
this thread is his greatest success since his WC win. He's only doing interviews to see it hit 400 pages...thread-doper!0
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copy paste from twitter ddraver?0
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Zerotails99 wrote:Plenty of other champions doped up to the eyeballs and lied about it. They simply didn't have their Andreu's, Walsh and all the other blackmailers.
also chasing down a breakaway is also now considered to be bullying.
No but chasing down a breakaway because it contains someone who spoke up about your favourite doping doctor and then when you both get back to the peloton making a keep quiet gesture, could be considering bullying0 -
Totally agree with Lance on the ban. Can't run in a marathon ffs?
It's a witch hunt lead by some political background for whatever. He was targeted full on. You all think those who have instigated this give flying shite about cycling?
Looked he doped they all doped end of move on. If the UCI are asking the right questions and he's answering them with the transparency he says then it's a step forward.
It's very hard to admit as well that you known you've been a complete arsehole and come to terms with it.
I agree with him about the Astana affair. Cookson is weak and Astana should never have been given a world tour licence. FFS their DS is a known doper who doesn't even acknowledge it!
Let Lance get on with his life now I say and put the past to bed.0
