Lance Armstrong gets life ban,loses 7 TDF,confesses he doped
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dennisn wrote:mfin wrote:dennisn wrote:No tA Doctor wrote:...........stop believing him he'll have trouble playing down the bully and liar aspect. "He lied before, where's his credibility?"...
How does he NOT have credibility because he's lied before and people like Landis and Hamilton have credibility simply because they have confessed? Doesn't lying at ANY time by ANYONE cause a loss of credibility? I don't follow how simply confessing to something takes you from zero to hero.
Theyve all been liars, two of those have come clean about it. One of them has not.
To lie and then eventually confess is far more credible than continuing to lie. He doesnt care about the sport, and he doesn't care about anyone who has to or chooses to inject sh1t into their bodies.
The extent of his lies goes further than the others, and his bullying, p1ssing about with peoples lives and wellbeing is quite frankly disgusting.
If he comes clean, he can start on a road to making up for this.
I suggest you actually read up on the doping and what it entails, you'll have lots more to read on this in the coming weeks, but do us a favour, read it, and comment on it with the information you read in mind.
Seems you'd apologise argumentally for any wrongdoer, cos you don't seem to read up much on it. I suppose you could find Hitler or Himmler weren't any worse than a lot of people if you chose to not read up a thing on what they did but then level we should look at them the same as everyone else.
Do some reading. A lot of people have gone through a lot in doping, and it f**ks them up. If LA wants to appear noble, why doesn't he do something about it?? Its not like he cant just sit down, write it all down over a few weeks, then completely fess up.
Sorry, I didn't realize you were the one who assigned credibity ratings to people. :roll:
Again, you haven't addressed much in what I said there Den.
Seriously, there's so much more to this than credibility and public-perception and opinion, but those seem to be the only two aspects you seem to comment on!!0 -
mfin wrote:dennisn wrote:mfin wrote:dennisn wrote:No tA Doctor wrote:...........stop believing him he'll have trouble playing down the bully and liar aspect. "He lied before, where's his credibility?"...
How does he NOT have credibility because he's lied before and people like Landis and Hamilton have credibility simply because they have confessed? Doesn't lying at ANY time by ANYONE cause a loss of credibility? I don't follow how simply confessing to something takes you from zero to hero.
Theyve all been liars, two of those have come clean about it. One of them has not.
To lie and then eventually confess is far more credible than continuing to lie. He doesnt care about the sport, and he doesn't care about anyone who has to or chooses to inject sh1t into their bodies.
The extent of his lies goes further than the others, and his bullying, p1ssing about with peoples lives and wellbeing is quite frankly disgusting.
If he comes clean, he can start on a road to making up for this.
I suggest you actually read up on the doping and what it entails, you'll have lots more to read on this in the coming weeks, but do us a favour, read it, and comment on it with the information you read in mind.
Seems you'd apologise argumentally for any wrongdoer, cos you don't seem to read up much on it. I suppose you could find Hitler or Himmler weren't any worse than a lot of people if you chose to not read up a thing on what they did but then level we should look at them the same as everyone else.
Do some reading. A lot of people have gone through a lot in doping, and it f**ks them up. If LA wants to appear noble, why doesn't he do something about it?? Its not like he cant just sit down, write it all down over a few weeks, then completely fess up.
Sorry, I didn't realize you were the one who assigned credibity ratings to people. :roll:
Again, you haven't addressed much in what I said there Den.
Seriously, there's so much more to this than credibility and public-perception and opinion, but those seem to be the only two aspects you seem to comment on!!
Got to agree, I don't actually know what Dennis's opinion is on all of this. He just appears to have an opinion on other peoples opinion.0 -
Slim Boy Fat wrote:Got to agree, I don't actually know what Dennis's opinion is on all of this. He just appears to have an opinion on other peoples opinion.
Well, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that he has some kind of opinion on doping and its processes, what people go through... BUT...
...he has yet to post anything that reflects me giving him the benefit of the doubt.
ALSO... guessing... being in the USA and us not, the angles are different... in the USA there are looooads of people choosing stances on the matter with complete dis-regard to any of the information, who only choose their stance on the back of the lightest of reading, and even that reading based on Spin. (i dont accuse D of that as he seems to not care one way or another) BUT, this forum is mainly UK posters right, and in the UK we're so so much more free of the LA following thing, so in general, the great bulk of us post influenced by reading up from a neutral standpoint. The 'belief' angle is something largely American, and 'belief' in innocent/guilty doesn't really happen so much over here, at least, we soak up the information first or as we go along.
My point is, sometimes I think Dennis reacts to the postings as if we are not UK people but USA folks, like its a religious issue to us, and tries to 'balance it out' where in fact, he doesnt need to, as we're forming educated opinions not toying with pseudo-religious views, denials and faith.
NOW, I bet you Dennis (unless he reads this bit), will comment away on this posting, cos its 'his bag' BUT, don't expect him to give us a proper run down of the actual doping, cos that isn't of interest to him, and, I think its safe to say he knows very little about it. (im not saying I do either, but have read up all I can on it for hours and hours and hours, as it does interest me).0 -
mfin wrote:Slim Boy Fat wrote:Got to agree, I don't actually know what Dennis's opinion is on all of this. He just appears to have an opinion on other peoples opinion.
Well, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that he has some kind of opinion on doping and its processes, what people go through... BUT...
...he has yet to post anything that reflects me giving him the benefit of the doubt.
ALSO... guessing... being in the USA and us not, the angles are different... in the USA there are looooads of people choosing stances on the matter with complete dis-regard to any of the information, who only choose their stance on the back of the lightest of reading, and even that reading based on Spin. (i dont accuse D of that as he seems to not care one way or another) BUT, this forum is mainly UK posters right, and in the UK we're so so much more free of the LA following thing, so in general, the great bulk of us post influenced by reading up from a neutral standpoint. The 'belief' angle is something largely American, and 'belief' in innocent/guilty doesn't really happen so much over here, at least, we soak up the information first or as we go along.
My point is, sometimes I think Dennis reacts to the postings as if we are not UK people but USA folks, like its a religious issue to us, and tries to 'balance it out' where in fact, he doesnt need to, as we're forming educated opinions not toying with pseudo-religious views, denials and faith.
NOW, I bet you Dennis (unless he reads this bit), will comment away on this posting, cos its 'his bag' BUT, don't expect him to give us a proper run down of the actual doping, cos that isn't of interest to him, and, I think its safe to say he knows very little about it. (im not saying I do either, but have read up all I can on it for hours and hours and hours, as it does interest me).
I will say one thing. It does fascinate me somewhat that the two sides in this are so much the same. Both claim very strong feelings towards all involved in this case. Both claim to "know" all the "facts" because they have read all about it, mostly on the Internet. How could anything be wrong there? Both sides have arguements that shouldn't be ignored, yet are, by the other side, as they don't fit into that particular sides reasoning and feelings. Both claim the other couldn't be more wrong about everything. Yet neither side can actually claim having anyone who has EVER met ANY of the people involved. Neither side actually has any FIRST HAND knowledge of any evidence against anyone, both rely pretty much on speculation and innuendo. Neither side has ever had in their possession, or supplied to any authorities, any evidence of any kind. In other words it's getting hard to tell the two sides apart.
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There you go. No comment to make on anything that relates to the doping.0
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Why on earth do you care so much about the opinions of a bunch of people on the interwebz who, according to you, know nothing?dennisn wrote:mfin wrote:Slim Boy Fat wrote:Got to agree, I don't actually know what Dennis's opinion is on all of this. He just appears to have an opinion on other peoples opinion.
Well, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that he has some kind of opinion on doping and its processes, what people go through... BUT...
...he has yet to post anything that reflects me giving him the benefit of the doubt.
ALSO... guessing... being in the USA and us not, the angles are different... in the USA there are looooads of people choosing stances on the matter with complete dis-regard to any of the information, who only choose their stance on the back of the lightest of reading, and even that reading based on Spin. (i dont accuse D of that as he seems to not care one way or another) BUT, this forum is mainly UK posters right, and in the UK we're so so much more free of the LA following thing, so in general, the great bulk of us post influenced by reading up from a neutral standpoint. The 'belief' angle is something largely American, and 'belief' in innocent/guilty doesn't really happen so much over here, at least, we soak up the information first or as we go along.
My point is, sometimes I think Dennis reacts to the postings as if we are not UK people but USA folks, like its a religious issue to us, and tries to 'balance it out' where in fact, he doesnt need to, as we're forming educated opinions not toying with pseudo-religious views, denials and faith.
NOW, I bet you Dennis (unless he reads this bit), will comment away on this posting, cos its 'his bag' BUT, don't expect him to give us a proper run down of the actual doping, cos that isn't of interest to him, and, I think its safe to say he knows very little about it. (im not saying I do either, but have read up all I can on it for hours and hours and hours, as it does interest me).
I will say one thing. It does fascinate me somewhat that the two sides in this are so much the same. Both claim very strong feelings towards all involved in this case. Both claim to "know" all the "facts" because they have read all about it, mostly on the Internet. How could anything be wrong there? Both sides have arguements that shouldn't be ignored, yet are, by the other side, as they don't fit into that particular sides reasoning and feelings. Both claim the other couldn't be more wrong about everything. Yet neither side can actually claim having anyone who has EVER met ANY of the people involved. Neither side actually has any FIRST HAND knowledge of any evidence against anyone, both rely pretty much on speculation and innuendo. Neither side has ever had in their possession, or supplied to any authorities, any evidence of any kind. In other words it's getting hard to tell the two sides apart.0 -
Plus... I should point out... (if any brits here think Im really wide of the mark here then please say) ...that UK attitudes are different, our culture is totally different, for example, we don't have any whooping at Electoral meetings, whooping and cheering in Cinemas, and we don't have much patriotism, certainly not if you compare to the USA, we have next to none using that scale. We find 'go USA mentality', more just 'mental' without the 'ity' being needed in the description.
(note: Im not anti-american as such, just talking culture differences to highlight something to dennis)
If LA was from the UK, we wouldn't back him up like the Americans do, we don't buy into things in the same manner.
So, to compare 'either side' if you want to see it as 'sides', you're way off the mark. Most of us on this forum, are making up our minds based on reading what we can, now, if you want to say that's just 'reading what we find on the internet' then off you go, Im not going to buy into any idea that the accounts of medical doping procedures we read are 'made up' for example.
Anyway, I nearly forgot, I shouldn't engage with you about the actual doping, cos you're not interested.
Back to your beer. Good lad.0 -
Most of the people on Lance's side seem to have a very sparse knowledge of the case. I haven't come into contact with one Lance fan who is able to explain the EPO positive, for example. They all regurgitate the passed 500 tests line, without engaging with the fact that both Ullrich and Basso managed to pass hundreds of tests, all the while, engaging in sophisticated doping regimes.
If you're having trouble telling between the "sides" one for the large part seems to review lots of the evidence, to the best degree that they can access lots of the evidence, whilst the other side seems to just avoid much of the evidence, occasionally making sound-bites about credibility.You live and learn. At any rate, you live0 -
Jez mon wrote:Most of the people on Lance's side seem to have a very sparse knowledge of the case. I haven't come into contact with one Lance fan who is able to explain the EPO positive, for example. They all regurgitate the passed 500 tests line, without engaging with the fact that both Ullrich and Basso managed to pass hundreds of tests, all the while, engaging in sophisticated doping regimes.
If you're having trouble telling between the "sides" one for the large part seems to review lots of the evidence, to the best degree that they can access lots of the evidence, whilst the other side seems to just avoid much of the evidence, occasionally making sound-bites about credibility.
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Slim Boy Fat wrote:
Why on earth do you care so much about the opinions of a bunch of people on the interwebz who, according to you, know nothing?dennisn wrote:mfin wrote:Slim Boy Fat wrote:Got to agree, I don't actually know what Dennis's opinion is on all of this. He just appears to have an opinion on other peoples opinion.
Well, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that he has some kind of opinion on doping and its processes, what people go through... BUT...
...he has yet to post anything that reflects me giving him the benefit of the doubt.
ALSO... guessing... being in the USA and us not, the angles are different... in the USA there are looooads of people choosing stances on the matter with complete dis-regard to any of the information, who only choose their stance on the back of the lightest of reading, and even that reading based on Spin. (i dont accuse D of that as he seems to not care one way or another) BUT, this forum is mainly UK posters right, and in the UK we're so so much more free of the LA following thing, so in general, the great bulk of us post influenced by reading up from a neutral standpoint. The 'belief' angle is something largely American, and 'belief' in innocent/guilty doesn't really happen so much over here, at least, we soak up the information first or as we go along.
My point is, sometimes I think Dennis reacts to the postings as if we are not UK people but USA folks, like its a religious issue to us, and tries to 'balance it out' where in fact, he doesnt need to, as we're forming educated opinions not toying with pseudo-religious views, denials and faith.
NOW, I bet you Dennis (unless he reads this bit), will comment away on this posting, cos its 'his bag' BUT, don't expect him to give us a proper run down of the actual doping, cos that isn't of interest to him, and, I think its safe to say he knows very little about it. (im not saying I do either, but have read up all I can on it for hours and hours and hours, as it does interest me).
I will say one thing. It does fascinate me somewhat that the two sides in this are so much the same. Both claim very strong feelings towards all involved in this case. Both claim to "know" all the "facts" because they have read all about it, mostly on the Internet. How could anything be wrong there? Both sides have arguements that shouldn't be ignored, yet are, by the other side, as they don't fit into that particular sides reasoning and feelings. Both claim the other couldn't be more wrong about everything. Yet neither side can actually claim having anyone who has EVER met ANY of the people involved. Neither side actually has any FIRST HAND knowledge of any evidence against anyone, both rely pretty much on speculation and innuendo. Neither side has ever had in their possession, or supplied to any authorities, any evidence of any kind. In other words it's getting hard to tell the two sides apart.
Why??? Why not?? Most people on this, and other forums, are fascinated by doping, LA,
and any number of other cycling celeb's. Why can't I be fascinated by the "groupies" on both sides? Why do I HAVE to care about doping? Doping is just an arguement without much meaning to me. Much like politics, I could care less.0 -
If you care less why post?0
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Why do I HAVE to care about doping? Doping is just an arguement without much meaning to me. Much like politics, I could care less.
Bloody hell Dennis I would hate to see how argumentative you could get about something you did care about :shock: 
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dennism, did you read Jez Mon's post above? Does this explain things for you? I can see your analogy to politics, but you're in the wrong place for that analogy to carry any weight at all. Yeah, sure, at the asylum it does. & prob a bunch of others. It seems odd, that you're ranting about other places as if it was this place, when this place goes out of its way to avoid those stuffs.... I know there's confirmation biases aplenty, but anything too wide of the mark gets shot down. Read beyond the Armstrong stuff & things get more ambivalent & interesting.dennisn wrote:Why??? Why not?? Most people on this, and other forums, are fascinated by doping, LA,
and any number of other cycling celeb's. Why can't I be fascinated by the "groupies" on both sides? Why do I HAVE to care about doping? Doping is just an arguement without much meaning to me. Much like politics, I could care less.
I also take issue with your notion of not caring; for someone who doesn't care, you post an awful lot. In many worlds, quantity of posting is proportionate to quantity of caring. It's hard to see where the motivation behind a few thousand posts on doping is if you don't care.
So... If you're fascinated by the "groupies" on both sides; there are far, far better places than here....
If you're just trolling & looking for reaction, then on you go....
(& can you please not apostrophise plurals? *nails down blackboard* ;-) )0 -
daveecp wrote:Why do I HAVE to care about doping? Doping is just an arguement without much meaning to me. Much like politics, I could care less.
Bloody hell Dennis I would hate to see how argumentative you could get about something you did care about :shock:
People and or athletes can dope themselves to the eyeballs and beyond if they wish.
Not a problem of mine. I've said this before and I'll say it again. I am fascinated by people who are fascinated buy celebs and all that happens to them. It's all about the amount of questions that enter my mind when I hear someone proclaim to Idolize or detest a famous person. And yes I know, why should I bother and or care? Don't really know except that hero worship and it's direct opposite are something I struggle to understand.0 -
Then you have people on these boards very wrong. I don't love or loathe anybody in cycling but I'm definitely going to discuss one of the biggest stories in the history of cycling and have an opinion on it. An opinion that has been formed over many years of watching, listening and reading. You need to find a forum that discusses, Heat, OK! and Women's Weekly.dennisn wrote:daveecp wrote:Why do I HAVE to care about doping? Doping is just an arguement without much meaning to me. Much like politics, I could care less.
Bloody hell Dennis I would hate to see how argumentative you could get about something you did care about :shock:
People and or athletes can dope themselves to the eyeballs and beyond if they wish.
Not a problem of mine. I've said this before and I'll say it again. I am fascinated by people who are fascinated buy celebs and all that happens to them. It's all about the amount of questions that enter my mind when I hear someone proclaim to Idolize or detest a famous person. And yes I know, why should I bother and or care? Don't really know except that hero worship and it's direct opposite are something I struggle to understand.0 -
While you may not love or loathe any celeb in particular I can assure you that that's not the case for many on this forum. Besides it could get awfully boring reading 100 or more pages of I despise LA without at least a few people calling the haters the same names they call the objects of their hate. They don't like it but I don't see why they shouldn't be called out for what they do.Slim Boy Fat wrote:
Then you have people on these boards very wrong. I don't love or loathe anybody in cycling but I'm definitely going to discuss one of the biggest stories in the history of cycling and have an opinion on it. An opinion that has been formed over many years of watching, listening and reading. You need to find a forum that discusses, Heat, OK! and Women's Weekly.dennisn wrote:daveecp wrote:Why do I HAVE to care about doping? Doping is just an arguement without much meaning to me. Much like politics, I could care less.
Bloody hell Dennis I would hate to see how argumentative you could get about something you did care about :shock:
People and or athletes can dope themselves to the eyeballs and beyond if they wish.
Not a problem of mine. I've said this before and I'll say it again. I am fascinated by people who are fascinated buy celebs and all that happens to them. It's all about the amount of questions that enter my mind when I hear someone proclaim to Idolize or detest a famous person. And yes I know, why should I bother and or care? Don't really know except that hero worship and it's direct opposite are something I struggle to understand.0 -
dennisn wrote:While you may not love or loathe any celeb in particular I can assure you that that's not the case for many on this forum. Besides it could get awfully boring reading 100 or more pages of I despise LA without at least a few people calling the haters the same names they call the objects of their hate. They don't like it but I don't see why they shouldn't be called out for what they do.
You are a pretty tedious and low level troll lol. This seems to be a pretty informed forum for discussion until you turned up. 'Called out' ??? If you have anything factual to add or a point of view for discussion then do so. If not shush. Saying you are 'calling out' the 'LA haters' when they discuss the situation by bringing up clear situations and emerging stories is ridiculous. Especially as, when you say, you don't even care.0 -
@ReesA, that is extremely unfair! Dennisn is a High Level troll and just you recognize it.
The people I feel sorry for are the innocent victims. There is a young guy near me who rides in the full Livestrong outfit, although not the bike, he rides a Cinelli. Out every day in all weathers, what must he now think? Nobody cares about the civilian casualties
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Dennis, have you ever had a beer with mfin?0
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Many people have said many things in the last couple of weeks. But for me, the late great George Carlin summed it up. No more, no less.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3tR_Miti7wTwitter: @RichN950 -
ReesA wrote:dennisn wrote:While you may not love or loathe any celeb in particular I can assure you that that's not the case for many on this forum. Besides it could get awfully boring reading 100 or more pages of I despise LA without at least a few people calling the haters the same names they call the objects of their hate. They don't like it but I don't see why they shouldn't be called out for what they do.
You are a pretty tedious and low level troll lol. This seems to be a pretty informed forum for discussion until you turned up.
I really don't believe you want to got there with your "...seems to be a pretty informed....". I'm positive you could go back into the forum vaults of LA "discussions" and find hundreds of incidents of name calling, cursing, slander, threats, and just general bad mouthing about Lance, so you'll have to pardon me if your "...pretty informed forum for discussion..." statement seems mostly a joke. It's pretty much a forum where MOST on it are simply waiting for the next bit of bad news for Lance. That's what peaks my interest. The why and what for of it all. Seems like a bunch of little kids getting ice cream. They just love that flavor called bad news.0 -
I think if a piece of Lance good news came out, just as much forum discussion would be provoked.
But if you're a doper, who cheated his way to seven tour de France victories, whilst generally being a bit of a d*** to anyone who doesn't worship the ground you walk on, one day, you might find it difficult to generate a good news story.You live and learn. At any rate, you live0 -
mfin wrote:dennisn wrote:....so you'll have to pardon me if your "...pretty informed forum for discussion..." statement seems mostly a joke.
And who do you think here on this LA thread should hold the title of 'the least informed of all' on the topic ??
Oh h*ll, I know I'm not informed about LA's goings on. Not all that interested. I do like the pack mentality of both sides in this thing. Sort of a war in it's own right. Both armies prepared to fight to the death(if you will). Both armies filled with lunatics. At least according to each other. Makes me wonder why I don't like politics. Two groups going at each other, name calling, wild acusations, dirt digging, slander, lying, etc. Yeah that's politics all right. It can only mean one thing. Lance is going into politics and he's using all this TDF stuff as training. Toughening up if you will.0 -
Did you see any of the posts above that might have contradicted any of these posts?dennisn wrote:
Oh h*ll, I know I'm not informed about LA's goings on. Not all that interested. I do like the pack mentality of both sides in this thing. Sort of a war in it's own right. Both armies prepared to fight to the death(if you will). Both armies filled with lunatics. At least according to each other. Makes me wonder why I don't like politics. Two groups going at each other, name calling, wild acusations, dirt digging, slander, lying, etc. Yeah that's politics all right. It can only mean one thing. Lance is going into politics and he's using all this TDF stuff as training. Toughening up if you will.
You're in the wrong place & complaining about other places. Y'know, it's funny for a while, but then it gets stupid & boorish.... Yep, we know that there are fixed view points, Yep we get that. If someone who has a fixed viewpoint doesn't see the outcome they want, they might be unhappy? OK, but we got that too. Thanks for all that, but WTF else are you saying?
Y'know, I get the impression that you're a really nice guy. I find it strange that you feel locked into posting this daft, circular argument. C'mon, my 9 year old nieces can adapt position better than you. You can do better, surely. What are you trying to say?
But thank you for stopping with the apostrophes in plurals!0 -
dennisn wrote:mfin wrote:dennisn wrote:....so you'll have to pardon me if your "...pretty informed forum for discussion..." statement seems mostly a joke.
And who do you think here on this LA thread should hold the title of 'the least informed of all' on the topic ??
Oh h*ll, I know I'm not informed about LA's goings on. Not all that interested. I do like the pack mentality of both sides in this thing. Sort of a war in it's own right. Both armies prepared to fight to the death(if you will). Both armies filled with lunatics. At least according to each other. Makes me wonder why I don't like politics. Two groups going at each other, name calling, wild acusations, dirt digging, slander, lying, etc. Yeah that's politics all right. It can only mean one thing. Lance is going into politics and he's using all this TDF stuff as training. Toughening up if you will.
Dennis' method of replying and lifecycle on LA threads...
1. Put a small sentence which sounds like he's engaging in a reply.
2. Put finger with eyes closed on piece of paper containing his 3 posts.
3. Reword the chosen post to make it sound like its a new post.
4. Wait for reply and goto 1.
5. Wait for any post takes his fancy and goto 1.
...I don't think you're doing much thinking, just repeating the same stuff now.
How about something new???0 -
Richrd2205 wrote:....... then it gets stupid & boorish....
You're absolutely right. In fact the whole LA thing is becoming that way.
Got to be something else out there that hasn't been done to death like this subject. Later guys.0 -
http://velocastcc.squarespace.com/race-radio/2012/8/27/lance-armstrong-special-edition.html
Just thought I'd share this podcast link - it's about the most measured & informative appraisal of the whole sorry affair that I think I've heard. Certainly cleared a few things up at least.0 -
The Sunday Times is clearly enjoying this... re-capping the ST vs. Armstrong libel lawsuit today including front-page splash, editorial and a new article by Walsh... there can be little doubt that they'll be asking for their money back in due course0
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/othersports/article-2197229/Lance-Armstrong-latest-UCI-wait-USADA-evidence.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
I know its Daily Mail, but some tiny passing comment from McQuaid today'If ultimately UCI has to sanction, we will have no problems. We have sanctioned many good riders in the past, we've put them out of the sport and we're not afraid to do it with anybody.'
Speaking at the London Velodrome on the final day of the Paralympic Games track cycling competition as a spectacular summer of cycling wound down, McQuaid expressed frustration to be dealing with yet another negative case in the sport.
'It is a pity, it's a great pity,' McQuaid said.
'There are so many positive things happening, the whole Olympic Games was great for cycling, not just in Britain but around the world, because the atmosphere and the crowds and everything, that was portrayed and sent and noticed all over the world.
'We had the biggest crowd ever for the Olympic road race, likewise the time-trial. And it went on from there, and these Paralympics are the same.
'But it is unfortunate, but we'll wait and see.'0
