Rose Xeon CRS-5000

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  • declan1
    declan1 Posts: 2,470
    shamrock134 wrote:
    I've also ordered some black stainless steel Speedplay Zeros from Ribble for £87. Thanks for the link declan1! :mrgreen:

    You're welcome :) Hope you enjoy them!

    Road - Dolan Preffisio
    MTB - On-One Inbred

    I have no idea what's going on here.
  • James Newton
    James Newton Posts: 70
    Lovely bike, although I'm not sure campy works on a Rose.

    As it's your first road bike you might want to get a proper bike fit as the way you have your stem/bars/hoods setup is a bit contradictory.
  • shamrock134
    shamrock134 Posts: 714
    Well, according to my LBS it's a drainage hole. :?
  • SpermWizard3000
    SpermWizard3000 Posts: 61
    Hmm, that is a very odd place to have a drainage hole at that angle and with the exit at the bottom... Its also not in the middle and dosent look like a clean hole?
    I don't have one on mine but they may be right.
    Rose Xeon 3000
  • declan1
    declan1 Posts: 2,470
    shamrock134 wrote:
    Well, according to my LBS it's a drainage hole. :?

    A quick search on google suggests that other crs-5000s don't have this hole. As the person above me has said, it's not clean and isn't central. Maybe take it to another LBS or send it back to Rose?

    Road - Dolan Preffisio
    MTB - On-One Inbred

    I have no idea what's going on here.
  • shamrock134
    shamrock134 Posts: 714
    Yeah I've emailed Rose and hopefully once I show them the pics they can clarify.

    It reminded me of that scene in the Simpsons where Homer is looking at a car with bullet holes in and the salesman said "Errr they are speed holes". :D
  • Ben6899
    Ben6899 Posts: 9,686
    Lovely bike. Really lovely. How was it dealing with Rose to get it here in the first place and how did you make sure you chose the right size? I suppose the real test of Rose's customer service credentials will be how they help you with this 'hole' situation.

    For what my non-professional opinion is worth, I would suggest that hole is not a design feature intended for drainage. I am no bike mechanic, but I went to school and I know for a fact that water cannot travel 'uphill'. I think Rose will come back to you and say it's damage. Whether they'll reckon it's cause for concern or not, structurally, is another matter and whether they offer to replace or not, is yet another matter again.

    Best of luck!

    PS. and make sure you give the clipless pedal system a decent chance - the Pros don't use them to 'fit in' and neither do we. :)
    Ben

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  • shamrock134
    shamrock134 Posts: 714
    Similar to Canyon, you just enter your measurements and it estimates the best size for you. Dealing with Rose so far has been great. They have been responsive on emails and the delivery was really quick although there was a wait for the parts to be sourced and the bike assembled.

    As for the hole. I think I can put my mind at rest now. If you look at the bike on their website using the 360 degree viewer you can see the hole there on the downtube.

    http://www.rosebikes.co.uk/article/rose ... aid:557246
  • declan1
    declan1 Posts: 2,470
    shamrock134 wrote:
    Similar to Canyon, you just enter your measurements and it estimates the best size for you. Dealing with Rose so far has been great. They have been responsive on emails and the delivery was really quick although there was a wait for the parts to be sourced and the bike assembled.

    As for the hole. I think I can put my mind at rest now. If you look at the bike on their website using the 360 degree viewer you can see the hole there on the downtube.

    http://www.rosebikes.co.uk/article/rose ... aid:557246

    That looks exactly the same as the one on your bike! They'll probably tell you what it's for when they reply to your email :)

    Road - Dolan Preffisio
    MTB - On-One Inbred

    I have no idea what's going on here.
  • Ben6899
    Ben6899 Posts: 9,686
    shamrock134 wrote:
    As for the hole. I think I can put my mind at rest now. If you look at the bike on their website using the 360 degree viewer you can see the hole there on the downtube.

    http://www.rosebikes.co.uk/article/rose ... aid:557246

    Cheers for the info.

    And getting back to the hole. How bizarre! But I'm glad it's a design feature and not damage to your pride and joy. :)
    Ben

    Bikes: Donhou DSS4 Custom | Condor Italia RC | Gios Megalite | Dolan Preffisio | Giant Bowery '76
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  • dodgy
    dodgy Posts: 2,890
    Strange, don't think I have that hole on my Xeon CRS-3100, will take another look.
  • shamrock134
    shamrock134 Posts: 714
    It's hard to see on the CRS-3100 as the 360 degree view is of the white model which has a black stripe on the downtube, but you can sort of make out the hole in the same place.
  • dodgy
    dodgy Posts: 2,890
    Just been to check on mine, yep there is a hole there! But my bike doesn't have the red cables (it's Di2) so it doesn't show up like yours does! Sorry mate, I should have made a closer inspection when you first raised the issue, might have saved you some worrying!
  • SpermWizard3000
    SpermWizard3000 Posts: 61
    Like Dodgy I have to apologise I also have the hole...
    Mine is however a lot smaller and slightly cleaner. Good we have it sorted..

    I just wanted to ask you guys what the bottom bracket, I'm having a hard time checking?
    Cheers
    Rose Xeon 3000
  • dodgy
    dodgy Posts: 2,890
    Rose use press fit Shimano bottom brackets.
  • SpermWizard3000
    SpermWizard3000 Posts: 61
    edited August 2012
    Cheers dodgy, do you know the model? I have the 3000
    Rose Xeon 3000
  • dodgy
    dodgy Posts: 2,890
    I imagine if you have an Ultegra level bike you will have Ultegra press fit?
  • SpermWizard3000
    SpermWizard3000 Posts: 61
    Sorry for hijacking the thread, many thanks dodgy.
    Hope you continue to enjoy the bike shamrock.
    Rose Xeon 3000
  • shamrock134
    shamrock134 Posts: 714
    Nothing to apologise for, discuss away anything Rose related. :)
  • Redsteveb
    Redsteveb Posts: 201
    shamrock134 wrote:
    Nothing to apologise for, discuss away anything Rose related. :)

    Love mine, great bikes, excellent vfm and lovely people to deal with too:

    Just back from a fortnight in France, where the SRAM Apex came in really handy :D

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  • itsnotarace
    itsnotarace Posts: 518
    Nice ride. Deserves better photos tho :D
  • dave35
    dave35 Posts: 1,124
    get rid of the innertubes that come with the wheels,the extenders are crap..get some innertubes with 80mm valves. Thats what I done..nice bike by the way.
  • shamrock134
    shamrock134 Posts: 714
    Yeah I've already swapped them for tubes with longer valves, much easier than faffing about with extenders that don't work!

    The Speedplay Zeros should be with me today so next I need to hunt for some good shoes to go with them.
  • Gabbo
    Gabbo Posts: 864
    Nice bike. What is the weight of this beauty? I assume it's quite responsive too!
  • shamrock134
    shamrock134 Posts: 714
    I don't have a way to measure at the moment, but I'd guess around 7kg. The wheels are probably weighing it down.

    I have just attached the Zeros and I'm having trouble getting them to engage easily! :oops:
  • SpermWizard3000
    SpermWizard3000 Posts: 61
    Hey Shamrock, its takes about 2 days of clipping in and out to soften the spring mechanism so it takes practice and time to wear them in. Speedplays are also hard to master at first and take a little strategy (such as twisting the heel a little.) Once used to them I find them the easiest out of most designs.
    I'd lean against a wall and practice clipping in and out plenty of times before you get to the traffic lights :).

    EDIT: I was also initially shocked at how tough the mechanism was to clip in and out of despite the warnings I got before purchasing them. It takes a good deal of practice.
    Rose Xeon 3000
  • shamrock134
    shamrock134 Posts: 714
    Thanks, I am surprised at how difficult it is and assumed it's because I'm a noob! :mrgreen:

    I'm getting better on the right foot but so far have only successfully locked in the left foot ONCE all night. This is all in the (relative) safety of my flat. I need to master it by Sunday as that's the only day looking promising this bank holiday weekend.
  • SpermWizard3000
    SpermWizard3000 Posts: 61
    Agreed regarding the weather, clipping in is also easier if you use a light grease on the action area of the pedals. I initially used a light teflon grease and it helped a lot.
    Now the wait till Sunday :D
    Rose Xeon 3000
  • shamrock134
    shamrock134 Posts: 714
    Grrrr I have a physics degree and can't work out these instructions! Walls of text are not preferable to a simple diagram.

    Am I correct in thinking that screwing the heel-in and heel-out screws so they move closer to the little black thing decreases the float angle?

    So decreasing the heel-out float angle will effectively reduce the size of the movement needed to disengage? Why should I care about the heel-in float? Won't that just mean I'll keep hitting my heel against the crank arm if it's anything other than the minimum?

    Where did I put those flat pedals... :mrgreen:
  • SpermWizard3000
    SpermWizard3000 Posts: 61
    Speedplays take a little while to get used to, but they are so much more efficient, you will come to realise this.
    At default they come at about 7 degrees float, I would keep them at this as it is more comfortable when riding as a beginner and offers little disadvantage when clipping out. You are correct saying less movement is required to clip out with a lesser float but it is fairly marginal until at extremes of the float.
    Make sure your heel is disengaging outward, thats how you clip-out, so you shouldn't hit the crank arm.
    ( I.e You clip out of all clip pedals with your pedal moving away from the bike your heel no where near the crank)
    You will learn to love them :lol:
    Rose Xeon 3000

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