Eating during rides and weight loss

dw300

You only use some of the protein you eat in each meal to repair your muscles. You don't eat 20g of protein and lay down 20g of muscle. But the rate at which you absorb and utilise the protein straight after a hard workout may be several times higher, meaning that you use the protein you'd eat in several meals, without having to consume the calories from those meals, and hence acceleration in recovery time. It's the same principle as the glycogen replenishment after high intensity workouts.

Yes, the protein can come from anywhere. You get better quality protein in some foods than in others, and typically because it's designed specifically, whey protein isolate scores very high. It's not how much protein you eat that matters, it's how much goes to repairing muscle that counts.

Also, a protein shake with 20g of protein has 80 calories, maybe up to 100 if there are a little carbs in them. Far better to eat that post workout and save it elsewhere or just cycle longer. I know we're getting away from the OPs post, but I'm just answering the questions asked.

t.m.h.n.e.t

dw300 wrote:

You only use some of the protein you eat in each meal to repair your muscles. You don't eat 20g of protein and lay down 20g of muscle. But the rate at which you absorb and utilise the protein straight after a hard workout may be several times higher, meaning that you use the protein you'd eat in several meals, without having to consume the calories from those meals, and hence acceleration in recovery time. It's the same principle as the glycogen replenishment after high intensity workouts.

Yes, the protein can come from anywhere. You get better quality protein in some foods than in others, and typically because it's designed specifically, whey protein isolate scores very high. It's not how much protein you eat that matters, it's how much goes to repairing muscle that counts.

Also, a protein shake with 20g of protein has 80 calories, maybe up to 100 if there are a little carbs in them. Far better to eat that post workout and save it elsewhere or just cycle longer. I know we're getting away from the OPs post, but I'm just answering the questions asked.

Protein during recovery isn't limited by itself. It's limited by the carbs you consume with it,which is why all known recovery drinks ( Example mars refuel) are full of sugar.

Post exercise your muscle tissue is screaming for glycogen and protein. Protein can't just take itself to muscle tissue is has to be carried. This is why carbs/sugar are used - blood sugar spiking promotes insulin response - which promotes uptake of nutrients inc glycogen and protein to muscle tissue.

Recovery!

dw300

T.M.H.N.E.T wrote:

dw300 wrote:

You only use some of the protein you eat in each meal to repair your muscles. You don't eat 20g of protein and lay down 20g of muscle. But the rate at which you absorb and utilise the protein straight after a hard workout may be several times higher, meaning that you use the protein you'd eat in several meals, without having to consume the calories from those meals, and hence acceleration in recovery time. It's the same principle as the glycogen replenishment after high intensity workouts.

Yes, the protein can come from anywhere. You get better quality protein in some foods than in others, and typically because it's designed specifically, whey protein isolate scores very high. It's not how much protein you eat that matters, it's how much goes to repairing muscle that counts.

Also, a protein shake with 20g of protein has 80 calories, maybe up to 100 if there are a little carbs in them. Far better to eat that post workout and save it elsewhere or just cycle longer. I know we're getting away from the OPs post, but I'm just answering the questions asked.

Protein during recovery isn't limited by itself. It's limited by the carbs you consume with it,which is why all known recovery drinks ( Example mars refuel) are full of sugar.

Post exercise your muscle tissue is screaming for glycogen and protein. Protein can't just take itself to muscle tissue is has to be carried. This is why carbs/sugar are used - blood sugar spiking promotes insulin response - which promotes uptake of nutrients inc glycogen and protein to muscle tissue.

Recovery!

Yes. Re-reading that it did sound like I was only talking about taking protein. But I was taking it as a given that all cyclists eat carbs post ride. The combination of both is ideal.

t.m.h.n.e.t

dw300 wrote:

T.M.H.N.E.T wrote:

dw300 wrote:

You only use some of the protein you eat in each meal to repair your muscles. You don't eat 20g of protein and lay down 20g of muscle. But the rate at which you absorb and utilise the protein straight after a hard workout may be several times higher, meaning that you use the protein you'd eat in several meals, without having to consume the calories from those meals, and hence acceleration in recovery time. It's the same principle as the glycogen replenishment after high intensity workouts.

Yes, the protein can come from anywhere. You get better quality protein in some foods than in others, and typically because it's designed specifically, whey protein isolate scores very high. It's not how much protein you eat that matters, it's how much goes to repairing muscle that counts.

Also, a protein shake with 20g of protein has 80 calories, maybe up to 100 if there are a little carbs in them. Far better to eat that post workout and save it elsewhere or just cycle longer. I know we're getting away from the OPs post, but I'm just answering the questions asked.

Protein during recovery isn't limited by itself. It's limited by the carbs you consume with it,which is why all known recovery drinks ( Example mars refuel) are full of sugar.

Post exercise your muscle tissue is screaming for glycogen and protein. Protein can't just take itself to muscle tissue is has to be carried. This is why carbs/sugar are used - blood sugar spiking promotes insulin response - which promotes uptake of nutrients inc glycogen and protein to muscle tissue.

Recovery!

Yes. Re-reading that it did sound like I was only talking about taking protein. But I was taking it as a given that all cyclists eat carbs post ride. The combination of both is ideal.

It's best to not assume that people understand

bahzob

Recovery drinks are needed by pro/elite athletes who will be doing 2 strenuous workouts per day or doing back to back heavy days like tours.

For the vast majority of amateur athletes the comparatively low workload of sessions and time between them is plenty to allow recovery without any special products. If recovery drinks make you feel better then its most likely a placebo effect. A glass of cold skimmed milk will work just as well, cost less and be much better if, like the vast majority of amateurs, losing weight will improve performance.

dw300

bahzob wrote:

Recovery drinks are needed by pro/elite athletes who will be doing 2 strenuous workouts per day or doing back to back heavy days like tours.

For the vast majority of amateur athletes the comparatively low workload of sessions and time between them is plenty to allow recovery without any special products. If recovery drinks make you feel better then its most likely a placebo effect. A glass of cold skimmed milk will work just as well, cost less and be much better if, like the vast majority of amateurs, losing weight will improve performance.

Hang on .. so even though they provide more or less the same thing, a glass of milk is sufficient, but a recovery drink is not? If anything the recovery drink is better engineered .. marginal gains and all that. Or are you saying that milk is not required by most amateur athletes and it also is a placebo effect?