In light of the Helmet argument (The most recent one)

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  • P_Tucker
    P_Tucker Posts: 1,878
    oldwelshman wrote:
    P_Tucker wrote:
    oldwelshman wrote:
    P_Tucker wrote:
    oldwelshman wrote:
    P_Tucker wrote:
    Kingy 123 wrote:
    Its simple if you fall on your head without a helmet you have a cracked skull,simples......

    Not true at all. It happened to me as a baby and it did me no harm.
    Really? ha ha :D that explains your posts

    No, it was a f**king joke
    Ooooh hit a raw nerve have we ? :D Maybe you landed on front of your head and damaged your frontal lobe which would explain a lot :wink:

    Yes. I am absolutely fuming. Now where's the nearest BMW driver?
    Ah but you don't condone violence and you said viaolence cannot be justified :wink:

    Yes. It was a f**king joke
  • feelgoodlost
    feelgoodlost Posts: 343
    I wear one every time I'm on my bike. Simply because I'm not willing to risk it. Also, I forget that I'm even wearing it after around 2 minutes.

    Let people have the choice. You could never regulate it if it became law anyway.
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  • cedargreen
    cedargreen Posts: 189
    Since banging my head quite badly on a kitchen cupboard door after returning from a bike ride (without helmet), I make sure that I always wear it when I'm at home. As soon as I get back after a ride, on goes the helmet. You can't be too careful, especially where accidents in the home are concerned and especially in the kitchen. Why it's not mandatory to wear one round the house is simply beyond me, and to make matters worse, my LBS seemed completely clueless about which helmet offers the best protection against cupboard doors. And don't tell me I should be wearing it in the bathroom as well, what with all the hard surfaces and risk of slipping. I know the risks and I know it's not logical but I just can't bring myself to wear the helmet in the shower. I think I would if it was compulsory, and if anyone has a better argument for compulsion I'd like to hear it.
  • P_Tucker
    P_Tucker Posts: 1,878
    cedargreen wrote:
    Since banging my head quite badly on a kitchen cupboard door after returning from a bike ride (without helmet), I make sure that I always wear it when I'm at home. As soon as I get back after a ride, on goes the helmet. You can't be too careful, especially where accidents in the home are concerned and especially in the kitchen. Why it's not mandatory to wear one round the house is simply beyond me, and to make matters worse, my LBS seemed completely clueless about which helmet offers the best protection against cupboard doors. And don't tell me I should be wearing it in the bathroom as well, what with all the hard surfaces and risk of slipping. I know the risks and I know it's not logical but I just can't bring myself to wear the helmet in the shower. I think I would if it was compulsory, and if anyone has a better argument for compulsion I'd like to hear it.

    :lol:
  • mouth
    mouth Posts: 1,195
    As a professional driver I spend enough time on the road and see enough 2-wheeled casualties at the side of it (I include motorcyclists in this sentiment) and funnily enough the ones with the proper gear on (helmet ((both)), leathers etc for m/cyclists) seem to be the ones who walk or ride away from any mishaps.

    My love for a helmet stems from a cycling accident as a 10 year old where I split my head open and had to have it glued back together. Much as anything it's left an ungainly scar which is very apparent now I'm going bald.
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  • greasedscotsman
    greasedscotsman Posts: 6,962
    Bozman wrote:
    Does my bum look big in this?

    Yes, it does.
  • kentphil
    kentphil Posts: 479
    I wear a helmet as twice they have stopped me from having far more serious injury. It should be up to the individual whether to wear one or not (unless racing etc)

    Any law would be impossible to effectively enforce. Education is the best solution.
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  • stickman
    stickman Posts: 791
    KentPhil wrote:

    Any law would be impossible to effectively enforce. .
    That's why I mentioned Australia, is it working there?

    I'm pro-choice, compulsion is blaming the victims. Sorting out car drivers behaviour is what needs to be done. The way they phone and drive you'd think it was something they had to do to make the engine function.
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  • P_Tucker
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    Mouth wrote:
    As a professional driver I spend enough time on the road and see enough 2-wheeled casualties at the side of it (I include motorcyclists in this sentiment) and funnily enough the ones with the proper gear on (helmet ((both)), leathers etc for m/cyclists) seem to be the ones who walk or ride away from any mishaps.

    Compelling evidence. Now, as a professional driver you'll know that the number one cause of death in car crashes is head injury. Do you wear a helmet when you're driving?
  • verylonglegs
    verylonglegs Posts: 4,023
    stickman wrote:
    KentPhil wrote:

    Any law would be impossible to effectively enforce. .
    That's why I mentioned Australia, is it working there?

    I raised a similiar question in the Wiggins thread but apparently people seem to think if you pompously repeat something like 'I can't think why you wouldn't wear one' then you can just overlook that issue.
  • P_Tucker
    P_Tucker Posts: 1,878
    The mistake you've made there is to credit people who say things like that with the ability to think
  • seanorawe
    seanorawe Posts: 950
    Bozman wrote:
    Waste of time and space.

    Who keeps a reflector on their bike?
    Who uses a bell?
    Does my bum look big in this?

    I use a bell :oops:

    Its easier for towpaths
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  • slowbike
    slowbike Posts: 8,498
    seanorawe wrote:
    Bozman wrote:
    Waste of time and space.

    Who keeps a reflector on their bike?
    Who uses a bell?
    Does my bum look big in this?

    I use a bell :oops:

    Its easier for towpaths

    But a horn is so much more effective - shouldn't you one of those?
  • dylanfernley
    dylanfernley Posts: 409
    I can see the need to wear one for racing, mbt , where risks are increased many fold, but for every day use it is surely a matter of personal choice/comfort-- indeed many injuries in car crashes, and those involving pedestrians involve head injuries--- so the logic is....... Helmet up society for every eventuality??
  • seanorawe
    seanorawe Posts: 950
    Slowbike wrote:
    seanorawe wrote:
    Bozman wrote:
    Waste of time and space.

    Who keeps a reflector on their bike?
    Who uses a bell?
    Does my bum look big in this?

    I use a bell :oops:

    Its easier for towpaths

    But a horn is so much more effective - shouldn't you one of those?

    I have just enough room on my bar to squeeze in my bell. But onr of thos 50's awhoooooga type horn would be good
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  • Mikey23
    Mikey23 Posts: 5,306
    A bell on my roadie too... Probably my most important safety feature after my helmet...
  • slowbike
    slowbike Posts: 8,498
    Mikey23 wrote:
    A bell on my roadie too... Probably my most important safety feature after my helmet...

    I thought it was the reflectors on the pedals ... legal requirement to sell a bike with them you know ...
  • seanorawe
    seanorawe Posts: 950
    My LBS have to sell you a bike with front and rear reflectors. Spoke reflectors, and a bell.

    Not sure if its policy or law though
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  • karlth
    karlth Posts: 156
    seanorawe wrote:
    My LBS have to sell you a bike with front and rear reflectors. Spoke reflectors, and a bell.

    Not sure if its policy or law though

    Law.
  • drlodge
    drlodge Posts: 4,826
    Mikey23 wrote:
    A bell on my roadie too... Probably my most important safety feature after my helmet...

    And what happened to your voice? Much more effective than trying to reach for a bell.
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  • Hoopdriver
    Hoopdriver Posts: 2,023
    P_Tucker wrote:
    The mistake you've made there is to credit people who say things like that with the ability to think
    Ah, if only we had your brains... then we could give them back to you
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  • P_Tucker
    P_Tucker Posts: 1,878
    edited August 2012
    Hoopdriver wrote:
    P_Tucker wrote:
    The mistake you've made there is to credit people who say things like that with the ability to think
    Ah, if only we had your brains... then we could give them back to you

    Urgh. If you're going to insult me, at least try to make it funny
  • CubeMark
    CubeMark Posts: 26
    Slowbike wrote:
    danowat wrote:
    Can't really think of a valid reason for me not to wear one.........


    Can you think of a good reason not to wear dayglow clothing?
    Can you think of a good reason not to have your lights on all the time?

    Can you think of a good reason not to have a flashing orange light on top of your helmet?
    :lol:
    Strangely, I wear a helmet all the time, wear fluorescent top all the time, have my lights on all the time (dynamo) and have a battery powered flashing light on the rear all the time. :)
    I don't care if someone else doesn't want to wear a helmet, that's entirely up to them.
    Why do we have to force our opinions on others all the time?
  • Bozman
    Bozman Posts: 2,518
    When your time's up it's up, you might be having a shite or descending at 80k but if the writing is on the wall you're f**ked.
    It's purely down to choice and the world will become a sad place when health and safety completely takes over, wearing a helmet doesn't come close to the risks that some people take in other sports, it's a helmet and it's up to you if you wear one.
    I sense that some of the comments on here are made by people that iron their socks, pants and wear hush puppies.
  • Ginjafro
    Ginjafro Posts: 572
    P_Tucker wrote:

    Urgh. If you're going to insult me, at least try to make it funny

    "T0sser" :lol:
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  • p9uma
    p9uma Posts: 565
    P_Tucker wrote:
    Hoopdriver wrote:
    P_Tucker wrote:
    The mistake you've made there is to credit people who say things like that with the ability to think
    Ah, if only we had your brains... then we could give them back to you

    Urgh. If you're going to insult me, at least try to make it funny

    I have read a few posts that you have contrbuted to PT, it seems to me the best thing you have going for you is your willingness to make yourself look like a complete and unmitigated twunt.
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  • P_Tucker
    P_Tucker Posts: 1,878
    p9uma wrote:
    I have read a few posts that you have contrbuted to PT, it seems to me the best thing you have going for you is your willingness to make yourself look like a complete and unmitigated twunt.

    If it helps, its about as much of a stretch for me as Julia Roberts playing the world's most famous actress in Notting Hill.

    On the plus side, at least I can use the quote function correctly.
  • p9uma
    p9uma Posts: 565
    P_Tucker wrote:
    p9uma wrote:
    I have read a few posts that you have contrbuted to PT, it seems to me the best thing you have going for you is your willingness to make yourself look like a complete and unmitigated twunt.

    If it helps, its about as much of a stretch for me as Julia Roberts playing the world's most famous actress in Notting Hill.

    On the plus side, at least I can use the quote function correctly.

    It is annoying the quote function thing, it doesn't seem to work on my iPad. None the less, you still manage to come a cross on this forum as a deeply troubled, unpleasant, insidious little man. Your family must be proud of you.
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  • navrig
    navrig Posts: 1,352
    That proves it. 80% wear helmets so they must be safer.
  • P_Tucker
    P_Tucker Posts: 1,878
    p9uma wrote:
    It is annoying the quote function thing, it doesn't seem to work on my iPad. None the less, you still manage to come a cross on this forum as a deeply troubled, unpleasant, insidious little man. Your family must be proud of you.

    You say "come across" like its not an accurate reflection of my personality. Also, "nonetheless" is one word. Hope this helps

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