What next for Wiggo?

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  • Calder
    Calder Posts: 51
    Calder wrote:
    That'll just be the Farmer's Arms jostling for a bit of free publicity. And believe me, with their prices, they need it.

    Thought he was more of a Windmill man? Place isn't the same since the Blue Anchor got knocked down.

    That'd be cool cos that's where I tend to go, but I find it hard to see him in their. All the folk are nice, like, but it still suffers from the reputation it got 10-15 years ago. He'd be very welcome though, no doubt. Everyone's currently quite curious who put the note through Barry's door requesting he paint Brad on the side of the pub........

    Definitely can't see him in the Brown Cow either - terrible karaoke, apalling cross-dressing singers, and full of little scrotes shoving stuff up their noses (probably). And obviously it's the other end of the village and Brad'll either be too knackered or too lazy to stroll down.

    Farmers probably the safest option, in truth!
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,548
    Hidden in this UCI video, where they ask various team managers who'll win the UCI World Tour rankings, Sean Yates says Wiggins programme for the rest of the year is the Tour of Denmark and the World TTT champs;

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBDyg2JKG9Q
  • Calder
    Calder Posts: 51
    Calder wrote:
    That'll just be the Farmer's Arms jostling for a bit of free publicity. And believe me, with their prices, they need it.

    Thought he was more of a Windmill man? Place isn't the same since the Blue Anchor got knocked down.

    PS. Bonfire night in Eccleston has never been the same since.
  • keyser__soze
    keyser__soze Posts: 2,067
    Calder wrote:
    And obviously it's the other end of the village and Brad'll either be too knackered or too lazy to stroll down.

    Pretty sure he lives down that end of the village anyway.
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  • timoid.
    timoid. Posts: 3,133
    If he's any sense he'll take it easy for the rest of the year and come back next year for a tilt at defending the Tour.

    A go at the Rainbow TT bands might be a tempter though.
    It's a little like wrestling a gorilla. You don't quit when you're tired. You quit when the gorilla is tired.
  • Talking of P-R, I'm sure I read somewhere that it is a race he fancies a crack at sometime. The reason he has hitherto avoided it is it clashes with prep for the season, and if you come off and bust a wrist or something then your season could be over before it's really started.
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  • Gazzetta67
    Gazzetta67 Posts: 1,890
    Timoid. wrote:
    If he's any sense he'll take it easy for the rest of the year and come back next year for a tilt at defending the Tour.

    A go at the Rainbow TT bands might be a tempter though.

    +1 He will want to defend the tour against the likes of Contador & Schleck to prove it was'nt a one off and because most of his rivals were not there or had crashed out/bad form etc.
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,434
    If I were Wiggins I'd go for the Worlds TT.

    Nothing to lose and with Cancellara and Martin both struggling with injury there might never be better opportunity.

    That would be it for the year.
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  • Calder
    Calder Posts: 51
    Calder wrote:
    And obviously it's the other end of the village and Brad'll either be too knackered or too lazy to stroll down.

    Pretty sure he lives down that end of the village anyway.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/olympics/19089663

    He clearly hasn't been around enough to notice Somerfield (previously Kwik-Save) is now Co-op. I suppose it only changed in 2010...........
  • jonginge
    jonginge Posts: 5,945
    Calder wrote:
    Calder wrote:
    And obviously it's the other end of the village and Brad'll either be too knackered or too lazy to stroll down.

    Pretty sure he lives down that end of the village anyway.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/olympics/19089663

    He clearly hasn't been around enough to notice Somerfield (previously Kwik-Save) is now Co-op. I suppose it only changed in 2010...........
    *shrugs* Where I lived as a teen there was a large Asda which had previously been a Carrefour. Locals would still refer to carrefour years after it changed.
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  • mfin
    mfin Posts: 6,729
    Id like to see him return his focus to the track in the next couple of years.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,695
    The nature of his riding style makes one day race victories difficult.

    Have we ever seen Wiggins in a genuine late race attacking move ala Vino or Canc or anyone like that?

    The best we've seen re that was that 'sprint' in the Tour of Romandie.

    It's this that makes Roubaix his best chance in my opinion, as it's often the course that makes the selection rather than the riders.

    It's unlikely he'll win Roubaix, but not impossible. At 32 he doesn't have 10 years ahead of him to keep trying either.

    Agree with Inky. However, Sky have broadcast thier tactics to the world and someone like a Boonen, a Canc or a Sagan would realise what was going on and be able to counter it.

    Sky are going to have to learn about Plan B's and C's etc first too...

    tbh, If I were Wiggo, I'd put my feet up for ever more... Probably why I'm not an olympicy Tour De France winner.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Anyone think he'll win the Tour next year if he goes for it?

    If he cares about his legacy, and I'm not sure if he does or doesn't, he should call it a day.

    I get the impression he hasn't always been the most dedicated athlete - though he's obviously put in the effort the last few years.
  • Anyone think he'll win the Tour next year if he goes for it?

    If he cares about his legacy, and I'm not sure if he does or doesn't, he should call it a day.

    I get the impression he hasn't always been the most dedicated athlete - though he's obviously put in the effort the last few years.

    Depends on who is riding. Against Contador on a much harder route, I don't think so.

    I think your right about how dedicated he is. If there is a target for him to go for, then there is no problem. I'm sure I saw an interview with him years ago, when he was maybe even still a junior where he said he wanted to be Olympic champion. Once he had done that, he didn't really know what to do next. You could see the same thing happen again unless the people around him can motivate him and come up with new challenges. Maybe the hour record would be a good project for him?
  • alihisgreat
    alihisgreat Posts: 3,872
    JonGinge wrote:
    Calder wrote:
    Calder wrote:
    And obviously it's the other end of the village and Brad'll either be too knackered or too lazy to stroll down.

    Pretty sure he lives down that end of the village anyway.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/olympics/19089663

    He clearly hasn't been around enough to notice Somerfield (previously Kwik-Save) is now Co-op. I suppose it only changed in 2010...........
    *shrugs* Where I lived as a teen there was a large Asda which had previously been a Carrefour. Locals would still refer to carrefour years after it changed.

    Some of my mates refer to their local shop as "rainbow".. but its been a co-op for years.

    really grinds my gears!
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,695
    Anyone think he'll win the Tour next year if he goes for it?

    If he cares about his legacy, and I'm not sure if he does or doesn't, he should call it a day.

    I get the impression he hasn't always been the most dedicated athlete - though he's obviously put in the effort the last few years.

    If he properly goes for it as he did this year then there's no reason why not, but i doubt he ll sacrifice what he sacrificed this year again, if he does, then I doubt it ll be next year. I'd bet Froome-Dog will be pack leader next year...
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  • ddraver wrote:
    Anyone think he'll win the Tour next year if he goes for it?

    If he cares about his legacy, and I'm not sure if he does or doesn't, he should call it a day.

    I get the impression he hasn't always been the most dedicated athlete - though he's obviously put in the effort the last few years.

    If he properly goes for it as he did this year then there's no reason why not, but i doubt he ll sacrifice what he sacrificed this year again, if he does, then I doubt it ll be next year. I'd bet Froome-Dog will be pack leader next year...

    I reckon Froome has a better chance against Contador on a harder route than Wiggins. But then I'm not sure he's quite there as a team leader.
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,548
    He's got to be top of the BBC's list for the next series of "Strictly Come Dancing" hasn't he?
  • thegibdog
    thegibdog Posts: 2,106
    This may be a dumb question but why do we think he'd target Paris Roubaix?

    Because it's less about tactics and more about raw power (and a large slice of luck of course).

    Would he not need to 'bulk' up a bit?

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  • rebs
    rebs Posts: 891
    Van sum is Alot heavier then Wiggins at the moment.

    Wiggins would have been Van Sums weight back in Athens Olympics? After that he got skinny
  • Calder
    Calder Posts: 51
    edited August 2012
    JonGinge wrote:
    Calder wrote:
    Calder wrote:
    And obviously it's the other end of the village and Brad'll either be too knackered or too lazy to stroll down.

    Pretty sure he lives down that end of the village anyway.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/olympics/19089663

    He clearly hasn't been around enough to notice Somerfield (previously Kwik-Save) is now Co-op. I suppose it only changed in 2010...........
    *shrugs* Where I lived as a teen there was a large Asda which had previously been a Carrefour. Locals would still refer to carrefour years after it changed.

    Carrefour?! That must've been years ago, so people round you're way are clearly a bit slow.
  • thegibdog
    thegibdog Posts: 2,106
    rebs wrote:
    Van sum is Alot heavier then Wiggins at the moment.

    Wiggins would have been Van Sums weight back in Athens Olympics? After that he got skinny
    Don't think there's that big a difference. It would be a good excuse to enjoy the off season a bit more!
  • jonginge
    jonginge Posts: 5,945
    Calder wrote:
    JonGinge wrote:
    Calder wrote:
    Calder wrote:
    And obviously it's the other end of the village and Brad'll either be too knackered or too lazy to stroll down.

    Pretty sure he lives down that end of the village anyway.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/olympics/19089663

    He clearly hasn't been around enough to notice Somerfield (previously Kwik-Save) is now Co-op. I suppose it only changed in 2010...........
    *shrugs* Where I lived as a teen there was a large Asda which had previously been a Carrefour. Locals would still refer to carrefour years after it changed.

    Carrefour?! That must've been years ago, so people round you're way are clearly a bit slow.
    :lol: Possibly true. Unfortunately my teens are but a distant memory...
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  • Anyone think he'll win the Tour next year if he goes for it?

    If he cares about his legacy, and I'm not sure if he does or doesn't, he should call it a day.

    I get the impression he hasn't always been the most dedicated athlete - though he's obviously put in the effort the last few years.
    Interesting point. I think it's sort of expected that the previous winner will turn up as rider number 1 and defend it. But I can seen him doing something else and not just riding for the sake of it. I can also see that not dealing with the French media for 3 weeks would have a real attraction for him.
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  • timoid.
    timoid. Posts: 3,133
    All this talk of Contador trouncing him annoys me.

    If Contador shows up and is a as good as before you have to assume he's still eating rare steak.

    If he isn't then the drop off in form should make him pretty mortal. cf Valverde.
    It's a little like wrestling a gorilla. You don't quit when you're tired. You quit when the gorilla is tired.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Timoid. wrote:
    All this talk of Contador trouncing him annoys me.

    If Contador shows up and is a as good as before you have to assume he's still eating rare steak.

    .

    Doesn't matter if he passes the tests.
  • Timoid. wrote:
    All this talk of Contador trouncing him annoys me.

    If Contador shows up and is a as good as before you have to assume he's still eating rare steak.

    If he isn't then the drop off in form should make him pretty mortal. cf Valverde.

    I don't think that Contador will trounce him, just beat him at the Tour.

    And can we then assume that if Wiggins does beat Contador next year that he is on the steak only diet?
  • Jez mon
    Jez mon Posts: 3,809
    Anyone think he'll win the Tour next year if he goes for it?

    If he cares about his legacy, and I'm not sure if he does or doesn't, he should call it a day.

    I get the impression he hasn't always been the most dedicated athlete - though he's obviously put in the effort the last few years.

    I think it depends on the course, and how strong Contador is on his comeback, whether he's digging into his suitcase of steak...

    Wiggins out TTed everyone in the GC race, and out-climbed everyone but Froome. Potentially, all that happens next year, is you add Contador's name to the out-climbed bit.

    Of course, we're going to see more climbing next year, so that out climbed bit becomes more important.

    We also never saw how much time Froome could have taken out on the climbs, we know he felt able to make digs, but not whether he would have sustained a gap.

    I think some posters are unnecessarily harsh on Wiggo's GT riding!!
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  • Jez mon wrote:
    I think some posters are unnecessarily harsh on Wiggo's GT riding!!

    What, by saying he might get beaten by someone who's already won 4 of them?
  • Jez mon wrote:
    I think some posters are unnecessarily harsh on Wiggo's GT riding!!

    What, by saying he might get beaten by someone who's already won 4 of them?
    More that there's a general feeling that the opposition was weak, the route suited him, and so on. The opposition was strong enough for plenty of people to be tipping riders other than Wiggins before the race started, and he took time out of all the opposition (Froome excepted) in both TTs and mountain stages.

    All year, people have been expecting Wiggins to fail in this stage or that race, then backtracking and saying that the opposition was poor or the route wasn't as hard as it looked. Planche des Belles Filles was a recent example. And yes, I think there's still a general expectation that "proper" opposition on a "proper" course would sort him out.

    Apart from the people who think he's doped to the eyeballs, that is.
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