So, exactly how fat are you?

snoopsmydogg

RoadMeridaBen wrote:

im most like someone from madagascar lol

Alex the lion or king julian?

d87heaven

Skin fold calipers are about as reliable as a Greek bus timetable Or bmi come to that.

Bozman

BMI = Pile of cock.

verylonglegs

The best advice I ever heard for those that need to control their weight is just use a mirror. The eye is far more effective at detecting changes in body fat than any scales or other device.

team47b

Adults Women Men
anorexia < 17.5
underweight <19.1 <20.7
in normal range ideal weight 19.1-25.8 20.7-26.4
marginally overweight 25.8-27.3 26.4-27.8
overweight 27.3-32.3 27.8-31.1
very overweight or obese >32.3 >31.1
severely obese 35 - 40
morbidly obese 40 - 50
super obese 50 - 60 kg/m2

Didn't know there were 4 levels of obesity, now there's something to work towards!

DesB3rd

Skin fold calipers are about as reliable as a Greek bus timetable Or bmi come to that

But excellent for finding genetic criminals and other social undesireables -

Phrenology, discredited you say?

BMI is wank unless you're a health worker wanting an easy point of reference to show the short-breathed behemoth in front of you that their fatness isn't something subjective but is very definitely something that will kill them. Provided you're normally proportioned then you only have to touch a dumb bell or do a couple of pull-ups to end up in the "marginally overweight" category.

jim453

DesB3rd wrote:

Skin fold calipers are about as reliable as a Greek bus timetable Or bmi come to that

But excellent for finding genetic criminals and other social undesireables -

Phrenology, discredited you say?

BMI is wank unless you're a health worker wanting an easy point of reference to show the short-breathed behemoth in front of you that their fatness isn't something subjective but is very definitely something that will kill them. Provided you're normally proportioned then you only have to touch a dumb bell or do a couple of pull-ups to end up in the "marginally overweight" category.

You a bit of a porker Des?

MattC59

BMI 24, Age 40, 6ft 2" and 13st 5lbs, apparently I have a lower BMI than 82% of males aged 30-44 in the country.
I'm most like someone from Kyrgyzstan ?!?!?

andy46

BMI of 22 here and most like someone from Zimbabwe!

I also have a lower BMI than 93% of males aged 30-44 in the UK :shock:

dw300

jim453 wrote:

You keep checking yourself with your 'skin fold' calipers and I'll just use the simple height-weight calculation, no matter how useless it is.

d87heaven wrote:

Skin fold calipers are about as reliable as a Greek bus timetable Or bmi come to that.

It's accurate to a couple of percent. Whereas BMI is entirely inaccurate .. scratch that, it's not inaccurate, it simply isn't a measure of bodyfat, as shown in my Mr Olympia example.

Now since this is a cycling forum and not weight watchers, I kinda assumed most would rather know how to work out if they need to loose 7 pounds or 2 stone, rather than just guess at it. If you don't care about accuracy, then don't get you knickers in a twist, but some people might appreciate the info.

verylongloegs wrote:

The best advice I ever heard for those that need to control their weight is just use a mirror. The eye is far more effective at detecting changes in body fat than any scales or other device.

Many people who are overweight or have weight problems look at themselves and think they either look normal, or, grossly abnormal. Very few can look at a person and estimate a bodyfat percentage, unless they've studied training or nutrition or something in the line of health. And of course, you can't see viceral fat. 'Skinny-fat' people can often look 'normal', be a normal weight and BMI, and yet be at higher risk of heart disease that normal. Calipers will tell you this, and potentially save or lengthen your life if you choose to act.

The mirror can tell you if you're around 10-12%, as for most people you'll see abs around that level. But once the abs are gone it's hard to tell how much more fat is there, until at 25%+ you start to look overweight (for men). The difference in the amount of fat between 12.5% and 25% for a guy with 140lbs/10st of lean mass, is that one guy carries 17.5lbs of fat and the other 35lbs. Would you rather know in advance how much youre carrying or just wait till you're properly overweight before you do something.

Redhog14

Just back from Holiday - should have gone to Equitorial Guinea BMI of 25, which is nice...

Andre Greipel on the otherhand is from Iceland, most likely.

pipipi

Cameroon. Which is a biscuit! I haven't looked how far down or up that is.

Calipers or BMI?

Of course calipers are much more accurate, but BMI is a quicker estimate.

BMI always gets disrupted by massive muscles. I think the entire England Rugby team were classified as obese when their measurements were used.

If you really want to know your measurements then use calipers or VO2max and a whole host of others. If you just want a rough idea, then BMI and a tape measure around your waist.

pipipi

And I would like to see who the average UK person is. I'm being compared to an average Cameroon. What are the figures for a UK man?

daviesee

pipipi wrote:

And I would like to see who the average UK person is. I'm being compared to an average Cameroon. What are the figures for a UK man?

A bit of guesswork regarding the average male but the figure for a UK male, 40 year old at 5'10" is 13 stone 10.5 lbs.

jim453

pipipi wrote:

And I would like to see who the average UK person is. I'm being compared to an average Cameroon. What are the figures for a UK man?

UK is in the long list of countries you get when you put in yer details. Anyway, it was originally posted as a laugh and nothing more. Dw300 probably needs to stop taking things so seriously, maybe he's got roid rage.

He makes a good point though, I'm 6' 2 and come out with a BMI of 21. I always thought I was rather skinny but after checking myself with some calipers it turns out I'm almost one hundred percent body fat. My Abs have 'dissapeared'. I'm now on the slim fast shakes and steroids to redress the balance.

capt_slog

I got a BMI of 22 and Congo.

I'm 53, 5'10" and 71kilos (so much for SI units :roll: ), I dropped a couple of kilos when I first started doing some regular exercise about 10 months ago, but it's gone back on again as muscle.

dylanfernley

I am apparently most likely to resemble a north korean--- must be all the dog i eat

dw300

jim453 wrote:

Dw300 probably needs to stop taking things so seriously, maybe he's got roid rage.

The first line of my involvement in this thread ..

dw300 wrote:

I put Jay Cutler's stats in for a laugh ..

You were then the one that started getting sarcastic and dissing my contribution ..

I just googled this meathead, since I've never heard of him. <sarcasm>You're right though, he seems like a very typical and average looking guy. There is every reason to throw out BMI measurements since they don't apply too well to this very standard looking fellow.</sarcasm>

You keep checking yourself with your 'skin fold' calipers and I'll just use the simple height-weight calculation, no matter how useless it is.

I'd say you were the one that started getting passive-aggressive, when I said BMI was useless for determining fat. You thread is titled "So, exactly how fat are you?" after all.

I'm sorry for taking things seriously, I hope I didn't ruin your thread too much. I'll be honest, I mostly read the Training forum and probably didn't realise I was posting in the BB when I posted the first reply.

jim453

dw300 wrote:

jim453 wrote:

Dw300 probably needs to stop taking things so seriously, maybe he's got roid rage.

The first line of my involvement in this thread ..

dw300 wrote:

I put Jay Cutler's stats in for a laugh ..

You were then the one that started getting sarcastic and dissing my contribution ..

I just googled this meathead, since I've never heard of him. <sarcasm>You're right though, he seems like a very typical and average looking guy. There is every reason to throw out BMI measurements since they don't apply too well to this very standard looking fellow.</sarcasm>

You keep checking yourself with your 'skin fold' calipers and I'll just use the simple height-weight calculation, no matter how useless it is.

I'd say you were the one that started getting passive-aggressive, when I said BMI was useless for determining fat. You thread is titled "So, exactly how fat are you?" after all.

I'm sorry for taking things seriously, I hope I didn't ruin your thread too much. I'll be honest, I mostly read the Training forum and probably didn't realise I was posting in the BB when I posted the first reply.

After careful consideration, I'm actually prepared to accept this apology. How very gracious of you. Do try and be a little more careful in the future.

MattC59

Still here then Jim

jim453

Indeed, old Dick Tracey's rather charitably afforded me a stay of execution. Provided I mend my ways. We'll see how it goes.

MattC59

jim453 wrote:

Indeed, old Dick Tracey's rather charitably afforded me a stay of execution. Provided I mend my ways. We'll see how it goes.

I won't hold my breath

prb007

29...not good, 1.92 and 107 kgs, BUT, in my defence, I have had nearly 6 months off the bike (renovating/converting a chapel), and the weight is coming off now I've got the cobwebs off the bike(s).
Most like someone from Malta, apparently!
Need to drop below 100kgs for an E2E France trip, next June...
Jim456, I'm sure Jay Cutler (4 x Mr.Olympia, multi-millionaire bodybuilding legend) is devastated at your damning description of him as a meathead....troll.
Jay uses this forum a lot, apparently

jim453

prb007 wrote:

29...not good, 1.92 and 107 kgs, BUT, in my defence, I have had nearly 6 months off the bike (renovating/converting a chapel), and the weight is coming off now I've got the cobwebs off the bike(s).
Most like someone from Malta, apparently!
Need to drop below 100kgs for an E2E France trip, next June...
Jim456, I'm sure Jay Cutler (4 x Mr.Olympia, multi-millionaire bodybuilding legend) is devastated at your damning description of him as a meathead....troll.
Jay uses this forum a lot, apparently

prb006,

Sorry to hear about the BMI challenges you face - are you sure you're not just 100% solid muscle. Jay Cutler being 4 x steroid user of the year/multi millionaire orange tan man and him being a meathead are not mutually exclusive.

MattC59

It would appear that 'roids not only give you a tiny c0ck, but also make you orange.

jim453

MattC59 wrote:

It would appear that 'roids not only give you a tiny c0ck, but also make you orange.

He is beyond tragic.

Is anyone here brave enough to admit that they're into this type of thing? Including all the orange paint.

dw300? Does this type of stuff float your boat?

prb007

Jim457...endless hours of lonely training, ocd attitude to diet, ridiculous tanlines, willing to take drugs to reach the top tier, looking ridiculous in lycra,
now who on EARTH would get involved in a sport like that?

DesB3rd

It would appear that 'roids not only give you a tiny c0ck, but also make you orange.

It's an odd body building phenomina; pressumably the trend began as it was deemed that being tanned looked better, but it's now found a sort of deviant niche in skin colour that has nothing to do with what applying sunlight to skin actually acheives.

Girls from the northern conurbations on the other hand have an excuse; in there day-to-day life they're very unlikely to come across someone with a real tan, so not realising that mid-ginger isn't the colour that skin naturally goes, is understandable.

Bobbinogs

Beejeezuz, I am most like blokes from Eritrea (just like verylonglegs)! "You have a lower BMI than 98% of males aged 45-59 in your country".

That'll do me. Sound piece of journalism as I like the results.

johnny2legs

El Salvador for me.

Mrs 2legs is most like someone from North Korea. Well she does like noodles... and she's a bit of a tyranical dictator