1hr Speed - How long to get from 18mph to 22mph average?

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  • Herbsman
    Herbsman Posts: 2,029
    dw300 wrote:
    thegibdog wrote:
    dw300 wrote:
    thegibdog wrote:
    Bag of a fag packet calculations, for 18mph you could be looking at about a 140 watt average. With all else being equal for 22mph you'd need to average about 240w and for 24mph about 300w.* So quite a large increase in power would be needed, although obviosuly gains can be had elsewhere too.

    *These are very rough calculations, not much writing space on the back of fag packets these days!
    I've not used a power meter, but if Strava's estimate will tend towards slightly more accuracy the longer the ride is, then I'd say my current average power for 2-3hr rides could be about 140W.

    If I had to guess I'd probably be able to hold around 170W for an hour at the moment. But as I say, that all just estimates taken from long loops, so take with a pinch of salt.
    Yeah, as nmcgann mentioned, the figures I gave would vary quite a lot depending on terrain, wind, aerodynamics etc. (they're based on a pan flat course with no wind with typical figures for a guy on a road bike). It was more to give an idea of how much more power you'd need to average 22 or 24mph in relation to the power needed to average 18mph - a lot!

    Ha, yeh I realise it's an exponential curve. Since I'm not putting out much power at the mo at least I have some room for improvement.

    I guess I just need to get out and ride an hour TT and see how far I get. Is renting a power meter an option? Wouldn't you just need a rear wheel and a computer thrown onto your bike?
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  • Team4Luke
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    ah I see Strava Racing ! Don't know much about it, other than I met a guy lat weekend on my ride who said, this is a Strava course, I said where, he pointed it out. It was about 100 metres :roll:

    It's not about power, everyone has the power ! It's about being able to keep up higher efforts, withstanding the extra pain, latic build up, breathing harder, if you train progressively and don't just go out bashing it, then you will slowly start to go faster over a long period of time of course it will hurt just the same as riding slower now, just that you will go faster. :wink:
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  • dw300
    dw300 Posts: 1,642
    poynedexter wrote:
    i'm in millisle, but not on strava yet. did you ride motocross at all???

    Nope, I've not ridden motocross before. I'm too old and aware of my limitations to start learning that now!

    I'll see what the plans are for the coming weekend, and get back to you. How many other guys do you ride with? It'd be good to get in a group and share the work .. groups of 2 suck on long journeys.
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  • dw300
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    Herbsman wrote:
    yes, try Forme Coaching

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  • dw300
    dw300 Posts: 1,642
    Team4Luke wrote:
    ah I see Strava Racing ! Don't know much about it, other than I met a guy lat weekend on my ride who said, this is a Strava course, I said where, he pointed it out. It was about 100 metres :roll:

    It's not about power, everyone has the power ! It's about being able to keep up higher efforts, withstanding the extra pain, latic build up, breathing harder, if you train progressively and don't just go out bashing it, then you will slowly start to go faster over a long period of time of course it will hurt just the same as riding slower now, just that you will go faster. :wink:

    Don't knock Strava, I find it useful. You can set up your own segments, and if you know about training they help a lot. Sadly there are a ton of segments set up by commuters and people who simply use it as Facebook fodder.

    I've an idea how to be training well. Unfortunately I ride with a guy who works 9-5 and tends to just blast it so hard twice a week that it takes me 2 days to recover from. I'd far rather be doing a lot of variety every other day or so.
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  • jgsi
    jgsi Posts: 5,062
    dw300 wrote:
    Team4Luke wrote:
    ah I see Strava Racing ! Don't know much about it, other than I met a guy lat weekend on my ride who said, this is a Strava course, I said where, he pointed it out. It was about 100 metres :roll:

    It's not about power, everyone has the power ! It's about being able to keep up higher efforts, withstanding the extra pain, latic build up, breathing harder, if you train progressively and don't just go out bashing it, then you will slowly start to go faster over a long period of time of course it will hurt just the same as riding slower now, just that you will go faster. :wink:

    Don't knock Strava, I find it useful. You can set up your own segments, and if you know about training they help a lot. Sadly there are a ton of segments set up by commuters and people who simply use it as Facebook fodder.

    I've an idea how to be training well. Unfortunately I ride with a guy who works 9-5 and tends to just blast it so hard twice a week that it takes me 2 days to recover from. I'd far rather be doing a lot of variety every other day or so.

    Yes to Strava as a training aide.
    making your own segments is key - I have only made a few and actually 'own' a KOM on just 1 of them... it will be have to be one time pressed commuter to want to do 1 and half mile at 2% at the speed I have set :wink:
    (oh.. just to clarify... that segment is repeated at least 3 times for the 'training effect' that I cant get on the turbo)

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