Cannock tonight, at least 8 people with no helmets

Ransaka

Thread must be sponsored by UPS.

Roostoids

Speaking of cannock. how deep are the floods in the woods at the mo, camping up there this weekend and mtbing, apparently you've had some rain up there?! 8)

Daz555

Helmet, no helmet, pads no pads, neck brace, no neck brace. Don't give a toss.

People can do what the hell they like. I wish cyclists would just just take a leaf out of the skier's and snowboarder's book and stop being so bloody judgmental about the subject.

Plenty of people wear lids whilst on the slopes - but no-one gives a toss whether you do or don't. Just as it should be. Look after yourself as you choose and leave others to make their own choices.

.blitz

Roostoids wrote:

Speaking of cannock. how deep are the floods in the woods at the mo, camping up there this weekend and mtbing, apparently you've had some rain up there?! 8)

Err not too bad tbh have just got back from a quick spin theres a fair bit of surface water and there are swathes of little pebbles in unusual places but otherwise ok. Everything else is functioning as normal as it can be in Cannock have a good weekend!

Roostoids

Thankyou Blitz, fingers crossed then :oops:

Weather says rain all weekend, i'm packing my SPD wellies

keracticus

No seatbelts, roll bar, airbags, collapsible steering column, side impact protection, ABS or high level brake light and I don't wear a crash helmet.

Sometimes wear eye protection, probably not to go to the shops but if I plan on driving over about 40mph.

Nearly always wear a helmet on my MTB.

DanDax1990

It should be a law to have to wear a helmet, In my eyes.

Northwind

<Fozzy Bear mode>
You're supposed to wear them on your head, not in your eyes.
</Fozzy Bear mode>

There's not really good enough evidence to demonstrate a need for that law. There's much better evidence to suggest that helmet laws discourage cyclists. So then you end up with a potential health impact from people doing less exercise. Not a simple situation but legislation isn't the answer IMO- if they could prove a large positive effect then maybe. But equally IMO, I don't think that large positive effect exists. Serious head injuries- in fact serious injuries of any sort- are pretty rare in cycling.

nicklouse

Northwind wrote:

Serious head injuries- in fact serious injuries of any sort- are pretty rare in cycling.

Yep normally minor or fatal.

paul.skibum

nicklouse wrote:

Northwind wrote:

Serious head injuries- in fact serious injuries of any sort- are pretty rare in cycling.

Yep normally minor or fatal.

Oh thank god for that! Where do I sign up for the minors? And I don't mean children.

snotty badger

It would ruin my day if I found someone with the brains all over the trail, the selfish idiots....



;p

cooldad

snotty badger wrote:

It would ruin my day if I found someone with the brains all over the trail, the selfish idiots....



;p

Just like a little muddy puddle, as long as you don't have slicks you'll be fine.

bennett_346

I do wear a helmet, though think about the number of times you've hit your head at all. I bet it isn't that much.

cooldad

I seem to use mine to fend off low flying branches mostly.

angry_bird

I've landed on my head a fair few times this year alone, for that reason I'm glad I was wearing one. If other people don't want to that's fine, doesn't really affect me.

At the same time I also remember a helmet doesn't make me invincible. I'm a hockey keeper and have been knocked out before now whist wearing a lid in a match, admittedly it probably stopped worse injury but I'm very aware that a bike helmet is designed to do the same thing, reduce injury or the chances of it, but not stop it all togther.

Anonymous

Saw a bunch at Cannock without helmets a few weeks back too. Chav types, shouting and having fun on a bunch of BSOs round the bit where it says to be quiet.

As long as they're having fun and my taxes aren't paying for their NHS bills.

Oh, wait, I don't pay taxes anyway :P

chez_m356

cooldad wrote:

I seem to use mine to fend off low flying branches mostly.

+1 to that

appy

my first post was a question not a statement I love how people are saying that I said I wouldn't treat people which clearly wasn't what I said. maybe I could of worded it better and I shouldn't of said "retards" but put yourself in my position and other emergency services who see things everyday that could of been avoided or lessened with a few simple precautions. some good points made and I guess that id hate this country becoming even more of a nanny state than it is and if everyone stopped having incidents id be out of a job which I love. You will never convince me thought that not wearing a helmet is anything but idiotic.
And as a side note why does any thread on here where people have a difference of opinion have to get so personal when it doesn't need to be.

chez_m356

appy wrote:

my first post was a question not a statement I love how people are saying that I said I wouldn't treat people which clearly wasn't what I said. maybe I could have worded it better and I shouldn't of said "retards" but put yourself in my position and other emergency services who see things everyday that could have been avoided or lessened with a few simple precautions. some good points made and I guess that id hate this country becoming even more of a nanny state than it is and if everyone stopped having incidents id be out of a job which I love. You will never convince me thought that not wearing a helmet is anything but idiotic.
And as a side note why does any thread on here where people have a difference of opinion have to get so personal when it doesn't need to be.

because they have nothing better to do

angry_bird

chez_m356 wrote:

because they have nothing better to do

This, it's wet and muddy outside. People can't ride bikes if it's wet and muddy, they'll get all horrible and dirty :shock:

chez_m356

Angry Bird wrote:

chez_m356 wrote:

because they have nothing better to do

This, it's wet and muddy outside. People can't ride bikes if it's wet and muddy, they'll get all horrible and dirty :shock:

i was actually referring to this part

appy wrote:

And as a side note why does any thread on here where people have a difference of opinion have to get so personal when it doesn't need to be.

mintedox

I take it easy and don't wear a helmet when I'm on my own because it lives in a friends van, So do some smelly shoes. I know my limits when I'm lidless and assume most other people do.

Goodgertron

appy wrote:

raving lunatic? that made me laugh, not at all i just feel that people should take some precaution even if its just a token gesture. Fraud? i love my job and treat everyone the same, i wouldnt do it otherwise. Just because i dont agree with something doesnt mean ill treat them different but it doesnt mean im not allowed to have an opinion on it. Isnt that the whole point of a forum to have opinions and put the world to rights?

That's all very well saying that but in your original post you questioned helping people... people didn't give you the appraisal you were expecting since it's ridiculous so now you're changing your tune!

appy

unlike you I don't start threads to gain appraisal as you put it, and id say judging by this thread more people agree with wearing helmets that don't. how am I changing my tune? I stand by what I originally said but admit I could of worded it better, that's far from changing my tune. Or maybe your post was just to gain appraisal from some forum members?

Thewaylander

I love the I know my limits posts though, (nothing to do with a helmet are great in this post) honestly i was riding some trails in FOD last year admitedly onthe DH but still early up sheepsteeth where it is easy, had some friends with me who were not confident and so i was taking it easy "well within my ability" and I crashed hitting the side of my head on the ground, mostly soft loam but some good log type items close by (had my full face on anyways so was fine but might have been fine with out who knows).

The reason I came off though? because sometimes going as fast as you can stops you slipping! things happen, conditions change and you can not say I will not have an accident... it's a fricken accident! So if your a helmetn wearer and believe in them but say sometimes i don't wear it it because i'm riding in my limits i think your a bit mental to be honest!

Those who don't believe in helmets, carry on.

Anonymous

Northwind wrote:

Serious head injuries- in fact serious injuries of any sort- are pretty rare in cycling.

Do I win a prize then for my trip to IC?

Northwind

Yep, you win a trip to IC. Along with my neighbour, who knocked himself into a coma by standing up into an open fridge door without a helmet

DCR00

for those who think a helmet is not needed, why not tune into Ch4 right now

billyballs

my missus likes me to wear my helmet in bed.

waby1234

Helmets are pretty vital along my canal route... Many low bridges to try and avoid.

A colleague of mine was jogging on the canal towpath, bumped his head on a bridge, passed out, and fell in the canal. Hopefully that won't happen but shows even a slight knock can be enough to take you out.