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the jubilee cost over 4 BILLION !!!!! ?????

timmyturbotimmyturbo Posts: 617
edited July 2012 in The cake stop
if our average wage is £415 a week or thereabouts and we were given 2 days off thats £415 divided by 5 and multiplied by 2 and multiplied by 28 million actual workers equals £4.64 billion as just the cost of 2 days off , i am not a royalist or an opponent of monarchy , but when our post election austerity measures came in to 9 billion , i think its a piss take to spend half that money watching an old bird on a boat in the pissing rain , dont you ???

pinch of salt on the figures , but not much, 10% out at worst . cheers :mrgreen:
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  • jim453jim453 Posts: 1,420
    Isn't that how much got saved by not paying people to sit posting garbage on Internet forums for two days?
  • timmyturbotimmyturbo Posts: 617
    jim453 wrote:
    Isn't that how much got saved by not paying people to sit posting garbage on Internet forums for two days?

    dont get your knickers in a twist love , its a point that our entire so called news/media neglected to notice whilst they were to busy getting up skirt shots of Fearne Cotton
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  • disgruntledgoatdisgruntledgoat Posts: 8,957
    timmyturbo wrote:
    i think its a wee-wee take to spend half that money watching an old bird on a boat in the pissing rain , dont you ???

    pinch of salt on the figures , but not much, 10% out at worst . cheers :mrgreen:

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    Brilliant certainty on your figures there too. Actuaries spend years perfecting algorithms to work out such stuff, but you got it bang on the back of a censored packet in ten minutes? Amazing.
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  • millymoosemillymoose Posts: 117
    That's right - for 2 days 28 million people did absolutely nothing, no one in the whole country did any work or spent any money.
  • alihisgreatalihisgreat Posts: 3,872
    timmyturbo wrote:
    if our average wage is £415 a week or thereabouts and we were given 2 days off thats £415 divided by 5 and multiplied by 2 and multiplied by 28 million actual workers equals £4.64 billion as just the cost of 2 days off , i am not a royalist or an opponent of monarchy , but when our post election austerity measures came in to 9 billion , i think its a wee-wee take to spend half that money watching an old bird on a boat in the pissing rain , dont you ???

    pinch of salt on the figures , but not much, 10% out at worst . cheers :mrgreen:


    If we get 1/2cm if snow this winter the whole country will shut down again... and lose twice as much... who cares?
  • cornerblockcornerblock Posts: 3,228
    timmyturbo wrote:
    if our average wage is £415 a week or thereabouts and we were given 2 days off thats £415 divided by 5 and multiplied by 2 and multiplied by 28 million actual workers equals £4.64 billion as just the cost of 2 days off , i am not a royalist or an opponent of monarchy , but when our post election austerity measures came in to 9 billion , i think its a wee-wee take to spend half that money watching an old bird on a boat in the pissing rain , dont you ???

    pinch of salt on the figures , but not much, 10% out at worst . cheers :mrgreen:


    If we get 1/2cm if snow this winter the whole country will shut down again... and lose twice as much... who cares?

    1/2 a cm of snow. Come on then Timmy, how many pinches of salt will we need this winter?
  • CYCLESPORT1CYCLESPORT1 Posts: 471
    We did, we went to Wales for a few das and SPENT money :!:
    millymoose wrote:
    That's right - for 2 days 28 million people did absolutely nothing, no one in the whole country did any work or spent any money.
  • timmyturbotimmyturbo Posts: 617
    well IKEA , sainsburys ( and other supermarkets ) B+Q and other places that sell shelves are open till at least 8pm on school nights , so if we were at work we still would of been spending , no ?
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  • verylonglegsverylonglegs Posts: 3,453
    One of those days was a bank holiday we get every year regardless, it was just pushed back a week.
  • rolf_frolf_f Posts: 15,959
    This thread should probably have a facepalm but I can't be bothered :lol:

    However, Timmy - if you honestly and truthfully believe that cobblers you posted at the start of the thread, why don't you petition the Govt to stop all public holidays during the recession.

    In your daft calculations, each day off costs 2.3 billion or so. As there are normally 6 bank holidays in England and Wales (lets ignore the lazy feckless Scots with their 7 bank holidays and just assume they do a proper years work like the rest of us) if we scrap them all that gives you about 14 billion in savings. I think you could wangle a Knighthood out of that.......
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  • timmyturbotimmyturbo Posts: 617
    One of those days was a bank holiday we get every year regardless, it was just pushed back a week.

    i did not realise that , 2.3 billion is still disgustingly expensive , even for a monarch when the entire country is feeling the pinch , and the middle classes as much as the grafters from what i have witnessed .
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  • nevmannevman Posts: 1,611
    timmyturbo wrote:
    jim453 wrote:
    Isn't that how much got saved by not paying people to sit posting garbage on Internet forums for two days?

    dont get your knickers in a twist love , its a point that our entire so called news/media neglected to notice whilst they were to busy getting up skirt shots of Fearne Cotton

    Pics or it didnt happen ha ha ha?
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  • Frank the tankFrank the tank Posts: 6,806
    At least it was £4 billion "wasted" making folk happy as opposed to miserable.

    I'm no royalist but it was a pleasent diversion from all the censored going off. Of course a lot of money was spent and business done off the back of the jubilee which will off-set that huge figure.

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  • timmyturbotimmyturbo Posts: 617
    business being cans of coke for £2 , and six strawberries with a dollop of cream for £5 or some chateau de carboard for £6? so just 450 million items to sell in the rain with a 300% mark up LOL
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  • Frank the tankFrank the tank Posts: 6,806
    timmyturbo wrote:
    business being cans of coke for £2 , and six strawberries with a dollop of cream for £5 or some chateau de carboard for £6? so just 450 million items to sell in the rain with a 300% mark up LOL

    I'm sure there was more merchandising etc manufactured than those you've highlighted.
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  • Wirral_paulWirral_paul Posts: 2,476
    Christmas Day and Boxing Day must also cost us £4billion a year then hey Timmy. Maybe you need to petition the government to cancel Christmas too.............and while you're at it why dont you ask them to cancel weekends too??

    Stupid pointless "statistics"!
  • mfinmfin Posts: 6,724
    Remember though, Timmy could no doubt have got a Jubilee £2 cheaper from somewhere else on the 'net.
  • timmyturbotimmyturbo Posts: 617
    well on a point of me computer general , if we brought in the German ethic of an office based working week of 30 hours , this would create around 3 million jobs over night if it were adopted in the UK , or would our workload just increase accordingly ? either way i would prefer flexitime at a 4 days working week , wouldn't you ?

    And listen muppets (you know who your POO POOing selves are ) the figures are not far off as i am sad enough to be a member of the facebook office of national statistics page . we have a workforce of able bodies ( not on the sick ) of 33.5 million ( correct as of dec 2011 ) of which only 28 million work , but if you have not paid enough national insurance credits , if your on the dole , you are not classed as unemployed , go figure ( well they do , don't they ? ).

    cheers X
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  • Frank the tankFrank the tank Posts: 6,806
    Christmas Day and Boxing Day must also cost us £4billion a year then hey Timmy. Maybe you need to petition the government to cancel Christmas too.............and while you're at it why dont you ask them to cancel weekends too??

    Stupid pointless "statistics"!

    Perhaps TT could write a letter to that nice mr Cameron with a view to cancelling all bank holidays for everyone for the next five years and we'll have soon closed the deficit. :roll:
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  • merkinmerkin Posts: 452
    But not all those people you have counted will have been paid for the break if self employed etc, others will have worked it and not benefited from the break. Many of the remainder who have taken the time off will have had to still achieved the same amount of work to meet deadlines etc by working longer hours and harder in the surrounding days. Not very clear cut really.
  • rolf_frolf_f Posts: 15,959
    timmyturbo wrote:
    And listen muppets (you know who your POO POOing selves are ) the figures are not far off as i am sad enough to be a member of the facebook office of national statistics page .

    That doesn't mean that you understand how to interpret statistics - and clearly you don't. To be fair, you are no worse than MPs and journalists in this respect who continually misunderstand and misinterpret stats. Even relatively simple data tends to be woefully misunderstood but this one is quite complicated - your calculation is simplistic beyond belief.
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  • timmyturbotimmyturbo Posts: 617
    Rolf F wrote:
    timmyturbo wrote:
    And listen muppets (you know who your POO POOing selves are ) the figures are not far off as i am sad enough to be a member of the facebook office of national statistics page .

    That doesn't mean that you understand how to interpret statistics - and clearly you don't. To be fair, you are no worse than MPs and journalists in this respect who continually misunderstand and misinterpret stats. Even relatively simple data tends to be woefully misunderstood but this one is quite complicated - your calculation is simplistic beyond belief.

    obviously its a subject with multiple dynamics involved , how would you interpret the statistics then matey ? based on a country that costs 675 billion in taxation revenue and national debt servicing to pay for everything , you clueless muppet ?? cheers x
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  • cornerblockcornerblock Posts: 3,228
    “There are two kinds of statistics: the kind you look up and the kind you make up” -Rex Stout

    “Statistics are no substitute for judgment" -Henry Clay

    “Definition of Statistics: The science of producing unreliable facts from reliable figures.” - Evan Esar

    and my personal favourite,

    "Statistics can be made to prove anything - even the truth." ~Author Unknown
  • millymoosemillymoose Posts: 117
    timmyturbo wrote:
    Rolf F wrote:
    timmyturbo wrote:
    And listen muppets (you know who your POO POOing selves are ) the figures are not far off as i am sad enough to be a member of the facebook office of national statistics page .

    That doesn't mean that you understand how to interpret statistics - and clearly you don't. To be fair, you are no worse than MPs and journalists in this respect who continually misunderstand and misinterpret stats. Even relatively simple data tends to be woefully misunderstood but this one is quite complicated - your calculation is simplistic beyond belief.

    obviously its a subject with multiple dynamics involved , how would you interpret the statistics then matey ? based on a country that costs 675 billion in taxation revenue and national debt servicing to pay for everything , you clueless muppet ?? cheers x

    You clearly are a censored
  • timmyturbotimmyturbo Posts: 617
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    You clearly are a fool[/quote]

    great constructive criticism there , and objective solutions as well , i am blown over :shock:
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  • rolf_frolf_f Posts: 15,959
    timmyturbo wrote:
    obviously its a subject with multiple dynamics involved , how would you interpret the statistics then matey ? based on a country that costs 675 billion in taxation revenue and national debt servicing to pay for everything , you clueless muppet ?? cheers x

    You aren't even making sense there. But, for a start (and you'd probably like this) I wouldn't be as simplistic as to assume that the cost of a bank holiday was only the cost of the wages.

    1) What is the actual lost profit to the company of the staff getting a free extra holiday? A private company will expect to make a net profit out of employing that person. And that profit needs to be on top not only of the costs of the persons wages but the costs of housing them in an office or factory and of providing them with the equipment with which to do their job (this makes your numbers much bigger). The company will still need to pay these costs whether or not the building is being used.
    2) What about the large numbers of people who did not have a day off that day? Did you try to determine how many people actually did take the day off?
    3) What did people do with their day off? Did they go out, put fuel in the car (at petrol stations whose staff didn't have the day off) and go out and visit places and spend money they otherwise might not have done? How much money did the one million who attended the Thames cavalcade spend?
    4) All these private companies working on contracts - did they all extend their deadlines by one day or are the workers just going to have to do the job in one day less?
    5) What impacts did the day have on overall power consumption?

    It probably woudn't be hard to add another 50 bullet points to this list before we covered half the variables needed to assess the true cost but you claim by with variable to have covered the true cost to within 10%. Is there anything else you'd like to make up and quote as fact?
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  • Frank the tankFrank the tank Posts: 6,806
    My favourite stat is, 1 in 4 fatal road accidents involve a drunken driver.

    Question. Are you a more/less safe driver having consumed alcohol?
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  • ProssPross Posts: 23,736
    It also blatantly misses the point that in most lines of work you have deadlines to meet. If you have an extra days public holiday you end up working the hours back to meet the deadline which won't have moved. Oh, and also takes absolutely no account of all the extra tourists that will have come in from other countries. Most of Europe has more public holidays a year than us and those with the most seem to be the best performers.
  • CiBCiB Posts: 6,098
    Money isn't necessarily lost, just moved around in different ways. Movement of money is what counts; how about the thousands who went to London on the day or for the weekend and spent money on fuel, hotels, eating out, London Transport etc? Is that a net loss or a net gain to the economy? I know we spent a lot more over that weekend than we would ordinarily, and I also know that overall I probably represent a net cost to my employer, so me not being in doesn't change anything in terms of lost income from that perspective.

    Multiplying one number by another and claiming that as the total loss is pretty poor economics.
  • bearfraserbearfraser Posts: 495
    AND !!!!!
    (How much is the Olympics going to cost with more travel chaos and on the box 24/7 even if we dont want to watch it,bring on the TdF and ITV4's coverage.)
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