Absoloutly crap.
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Good point. It's something I personally make a conscious effort with. If you can't be bothered to get your spelling right can you be bothered to do your job properly and thoroughly? Probably not.
However I don't think poor spelling and grammar are exclusive to the present generation of yooves. (Although I doubt that's the point you're making)0 -
EKIMIKE wrote:Good point. It's something I personally make a conscious effort with. If you can't be bothered to get your spelling right can you be bothered to do your job properly and thoroughly? Probably not.
However I don't think poor spelling and grammar are exclusive to the present generation of yooves. (Although I doubt that's the point you're making)
Liek OMG adn WTF, get a lfie
The dissenter is every human being at those moments of his life when he resigns
momentarily from the herd and thinks for himself.0 -
EKIMIKE wrote:Good point. It's something I personally make a conscious effort with. If you can't be bothered to get your spelling right can you be bothered to do your job properly and thoroughly? Probably not.
However I don't think poor spelling and grammar are exclusive to the present generation of yooves. (Although I doubt that's the point you're making)
Absolutely not.
You see it from all ages, it's just doubly irritating when it's somebody straight out of full time education convinced that they know everything already!"In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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disgruntledgoat wrote:EKIMIKE wrote:Good point. It's something I personally make a conscious effort with. If you can't be bothered to get your spelling right can you be bothered to do your job properly and thoroughly? Probably not.
However I don't think poor spelling and grammar are exclusive to the present generation of yooves. (Although I doubt that's the point you're making)
Absolutely not.
You see it from all ages, it's just doubly irritating when it's somebody straight out of full time education convinced that they know everything already!
Leave our resident sheriff Chasey out of this - thats banning talk.The dissenter is every human being at those moments of his life when he resigns
momentarily from the herd and thinks for himself.0 -
disgruntledgoat wrote:...somebody straight out of full time education convinced that they know everything already!
All of us need taking down a peg or two at some point along the line. (That's not implicitly aimed at anyone on here!)0 -
verylonglegs wrote:I can understand the professionals telling you that but I'm surprised parents wouldn't temper such expectations a little, there are no guarantees and my old man certainly wouldn't have let me believe anything else.
Will's tale does have a slightly middle-class whiney sound to it I'm afraid, having to suffer the horrors of food and lodgings with his folks because there isn't a nice job available so he can hang out with his uni mates..hardly suffering, which is why some replies probably sound unsympathetic.
Meh. I don't think it is totally unreasonable for someone graduating with a first from Oxbridge to expect to find a reasonable job without too much pain.You live and learn. At any rate, you live0 -
Cleat Eastwood wrote:Liek OMG adn WTF, get a lfie
woteva trevver go nd get a dickshunerry or summit or nuffin yeh 0 -
disgruntledgoat wrote:EKIMIKE wrote:
Ironically the responses on here suggesting you are a lazy moaning mummies boy are indicative of how many employers view people of our generation. Hence why it's damn tough getting a job.
You missed off the bit about not being able to spell or punctuate. Some of the work I get in from graduates is embarrassing.
You're wrong. We graduated last year/2 years ago, and got jobs. We weren't on a forum whinging to strangers how hard our lives are and that the only silver lining to our misery was some ASDA shelves. All my classmates also got jobs. Why? Because rather than graduating and bleating on about how miserable an existance it is to be a 1st class grad, we thought about it early, had some interviews, pulled some pints/built marquees/did the neighbours gardens (I happened to do CCF/OTC - for which we were paid) to make some cash and to give ourselves some kind of CV which showed that we were more than just shelf-stackers.
View it how you will. Its not like you only just discovered that it was going to be hard last week.....0 -
coriordan wrote:You're wrong. We graduated last year/2 years ago, and got jobs. We weren't on a forum whinging to strangers how hard our lives are and that the only silver lining to our misery was some ASDA shelves. All my classmates also got jobs. Why? Because rather than graduating and bleating on about how miserable an existance it is to be a 1st class grad, we thought about it early, had some interviews, pulled some pints/built marquees/did the neighbours gardens (I happened to do CCF/OTC - for which we were paid) to make some cash and to give ourselves some kind of CV which showed that we were more than just shelf-stackers...
You oldies are always putting the younger generation down. Should be ashamed of yourselves! Faster than a tent.......0 -
All I can say is he is lucky my mum isn't his mum or he'd be on the receiving end of a kick that would make kernal gadaffi wince0
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Will, if you are still reading:
There are jobs out there - but you do need to really look.
I'm an employer/recruiter in engineering supplies & manufacturing. In my team of 25, there is no HR & certainly no graduate recruitment scheme. What I have is lots of old guys who have years of experience who will all want to retire in next 5 - 10 yrs.
If a bright, ambitious & switched on graduate came & knocked on my door and convinced me they could learn & make a contribution to the business, they could start straightaway. (I also have an idea that I could usefully use a Summer student in one of my branch depots.)
Currently my long working hrs haven't permitted time to draw up a job description, contact careers offices etc, but I will. In the meantime, we are managing without. Result = no recruitment - there are lots of companies doing the same.
My suggestion would be:
- contact any small / medium size business in the field you are interested in.
- Talk to anyone you can for contact names: www/yellow pages, local newspapers have business sections, Chambers of commerce have business magazines etc
- I don't like using recruitment agencies, they charge too much (personal view)
If you are approaching direct you don't need the strongest CV but it must be neat, correct etc. People in work are stressed & busy - give them something clear & concise to read. A *really strong* covering letter showing that you know something about the business & what it does, explains what you would like to do and how you think you can help the company will certainly get lots of rejections....but then you only need 1 person to pick it up, don't you?
Be enthusiastic, humble (willing to learn) and 'commercial' and you will be a long step of the way there.
Footnote for Jez mon: we recently won an order* for your friends in Woking - part of the accelerator pedal assembley. We delivered first batch, then they moved next delivery back from this week to Dec. Things have slowed down there, I'm afraid. Maybe your field is more specialist. Maybe try aerospace-loads going on there or some of the more industrial applications eg diesel systems - the train operators seem to be investing in R&D.
(* order won against Chinese product with quality/delivery issues. UK manufacturing still alive....)
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Will, what about a TEFL course ? Then get yourself somewhere, my sis left stirling Uni with a first, did her TEFL and spent 7 years whooping it up in Tokyo, then travelled C America up to Colorado and did the Chalet/ski thing for a year.
Don't despair, something will turn up, just keep looking.
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^^^ This is something else I did. It's taken me to Austria, Slovakia, Hungary and Slovenia. Loads of opportunities but you have to be very, very careful with employers as there are some really dodgy ones in TEFL.
The only slight problem would be Will's spelling and punctuation (sorry Will).0 -
verylonglegs wrote:
I can understand the professionals telling you that but I'm surprised parents wouldn't temper such expectations a little, there are no guarantees and my old man certainly wouldn't have let me believe anything else.
My parents were groaning under the weight of job offers when they graduated from University.
It was their experience too.0 -
One of the best gifts god gave you is that you're a native English speaker. Go out and teach English for a year or 2 until the economy recovers here. You've got the rest of your life to get stuck into the 9 to 5 routine in the UK. I went to Japan and ended up staying for 2.5 years. I loved it, looking back it seems way longer than 2.5 years as you're constantly learning new stuff - everything from the way people speak, to the writing, to the food, to the culture is new and fascinating. I met new people fropm all over the world, I still know people in Australia, Canada, USA, Japan, Korea etc etc simply through having worked in Japan... Perfect for cheap holidays as I just stay at their places and they show me round...
You don't have to go to Japan though, there are opportunities all over Europe. Or South America, or Africa... The world is your oyster and as an English speaker you have a lot more opportunity than French, German, Spanish etc citizens as most EFL schools want native speakers.... Go out and teach the world Mancunian....Do not write below this line. Office use only.0 -
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Headhuunter wrote:One of the best gifts god gave you is that you're a native English speaker.
He's actually from Yorkshire.0 -
I'm reading here and there. I find it amusing some people basically trying to say I'm just sat down on my arse in my boxers all day playing computer games and eating pasta bake and microwaved mars bars.0
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willhub wrote:I'm reading here and there. I find it amusing some people basically trying to say I'm just sat down on my ars* in my boxers all day playing computer games and eating pasta bake and microwaved mars bars.
Microwave up the chute??"There's a shortage of perfect breasts in this world, t'would be a pity to damage yours."0 -
willhub wrote:I'm reading here and there. I find it amusing some people basically trying to say I'm just sat down on my ars* in my boxers all day playing computer games and eating pasta bake and microwaved mars bars.
Why? Do you wear Y-fronts?
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Aggieboy wrote:willhub wrote:I'm reading here and there. I find it amusing some people basically trying to say I'm just sat down on my ars* in my boxers all day playing computer games and eating pasta bake and microwaved mars bars.
Microwave up the chute??Cornerblock wrote:willhub wrote:I'm reading here and there. I find it amusing some people basically trying to say I'm just sat down on my ars* in my boxers all day playing computer games and eating pasta bake and microwaved mars bars.
Why? Do you wear Y-fronts?
Second post, first loser! "There's a shortage of perfect breasts in this world, t'would be a pity to damage yours."0 -
Hey Will,
I don't expect for a minute that it was, but did you report Franks other post ?Science adjusts it’s beliefs based on what’s observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved0 -
Aggieboy wrote:Aggieboy wrote:willhub wrote:I'm reading here and there. I find it amusing some people basically trying to say I'm just sat down on my ars* in my boxers all day playing computer games and eating pasta bake and microwaved mars bars.
Microwave up the chute??Cornerblock wrote:willhub wrote:I'm reading here and there. I find it amusing some people basically trying to say I'm just sat down on my ars* in my boxers all day playing computer games and eating pasta bake and microwaved mars bars.
Why? Do you wear Y-fronts?
Second post, first loser!
Pah! Microwaves, quicker maybe, but never as good. 0 -
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We had a decent discussion with a particular mod though (I think). I also think that frank the tank came the worst off, poor bloke and he's been aplogetic which I don't think was necessary.
Gotta set the vid for HIGNFY... back soon.
ps Don't eat those friggin pot noodles, they'll kill you. ALDI - 1kg of pasta for under a quid... hey wait a minuit thats an idea.seanoconn - gruagach craic!0 -
pinarello001 wrote:We had a decent discussion with a particular mod though (I think). I also think that frank the tank came the worst off, poor bloke and he's been aplogetic which I don't think was necessary.
Gotta set the vid for HIGNFY... back soon.
ps Don't eat those friggin pot noodles, they'll kill you. ALDI - 1kg of pasta for under a quid... hey wait a minuit thats an idea.
It was a deleted post fella, nobody died. Tail end Charlie
The above post may contain traces of sarcasm or/and bullsh*t.0 -
Frank the tank wrote:It was a deleted post fella, nobody died.
No ?! Oh well, no opportunity to wear my only good suit which is black then.seanoconn - gruagach craic!0
