The JubiFeckinLee
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MaxwellBygraves wrote:I'm sick of it all already - it's like North Korea but with more cake.
Thats right - if you look outside then the British Army are just coming to order you to have a royal street party................oh and you will look happy about it for the cameras and wave your little Union Jack0 -
The North Koreans at least have a good reason to participate, they'll get sent to a labour camp or be shot if they don't. What's our excuse for making wide-eyed, slack-jawed, drool-chinned national embarrassments of ourselves?0
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Cressers wrote:The North Koreans at least have a good reason to participate, they'll get sent to a labour camp or be shot if they don't. What's our excuse for making wide-eyed, slack-jawed, drool-chinned national embarrassments of ourselves?
Are you serious?? Oh those lucky North Koreans having an excuse to have a bit of fun and get away from the stresses of the working week for a change!! Would you prefer to live under their sort of regime??0 -
Have you been making a wide-eyed, slack-jawed, drool-chinned national embarrassment of yourself? I haven't been, but of course I'm not English either. Nevertheless I do intend to enjoy the pageantryCressers wrote:The North Koreans at least have a good reason to participate, they'll get sent to a labour camp or be shot if they don't. What's our excuse for making wide-eyed, slack-jawed, drool-chinned national embarrassments of ourselves?0 -
What is to enjoy about 'the pageantry'? I wonder? The obligatory little flags to hang on your privet hedge? getting the doillies and best china out and having the WI around to watch her madge parade up and down a few times? I already know how to have fun thanks and don't need this forced jollity foisted upon me.Hoopdriver wrote:
Have you been making a wide-eyed, slack-jawed, drool-chinned national embarrassment of yourself? I haven't been, but of course I'm not English either. Nevertheless I do intend to enjoy the pageantryCressers wrote:The North Koreans at least have a good reason to participate, they'll get sent to a labour camp or be shot if they don't. What's our excuse for making wide-eyed, slack-jawed, drool-chinned national embarrassments of ourselves?0 -
Vesterberg wrote:
What is to enjoy about 'the pageantry'? I wonder? The obligatory little flags to hang on your privet hedge? getting the doillies and best china out and having the WI around to watch her madge parade up and down a few times? I already know how to have fun thanks and don't need this forced jollity foisted upon me.Hoopdriver wrote:
Have you been making a wide-eyed, slack-jawed, drool-chinned national embarrassment of yourself? I haven't been, but of course I'm not English either. Nevertheless I do intend to enjoy the pageantryCressers wrote:The North Koreans at least have a good reason to participate, they'll get sent to a labour camp or be shot if they don't. What's our excuse for making wide-eyed, slack-jawed, drool-chinned national embarrassments of ourselves?
Go to work and keep out of the way then you miserable bugger!!
Nobody is forcing anyone to party - the joys of living in the UK. I'm riding a sportive while hopefully the masses are at home watching TV or having their parties.0 -
Definitely out on my bike on Monday and Tuesday. I think that some people probably missed out on the humour by exaggeration in the North Korea comments.
What I find funny is that people will hang out the flags to celebrate the shape-shifting lizard* getting onto the throne and then managing not to die for a certain number of years, but when it comes to real achievement - let's say British scientists winning the Nobel Prize - nobody wants to hold a street party.
*I don't actually believe that royal family are shape-shifting lizards. Just thought I'd clear that one up in advance.0 -
johnfinch wrote:What I find funny is that people will hang out the flags to celebrate the shape-shifting lizard* getting onto the throne and then managing not to die for a certain number of years, but when it comes to real achievement - let's say British scientists winning the Nobel Prize - nobody wants to hold a street party.
And that -in one crisp sentence- sums up what is wrong with royalty and indeed what is at the core of Britain's decline, which the current nonsense is apt to distract us from.0 -
Oh but I'm not a miserable bugger - I just don't need to be told when to have fun, how to have fun and for what reasons. Waving little flags at a pensioner in a hat that I have nothing to do with is just not my cup of tea old bean.Wirral_Paul wrote:Vesterberg wrote:
What is to enjoy about 'the pageantry'? I wonder? The obligatory little flags to hang on your privet hedge? getting the doillies and best china out and having the WI around to watch her madge parade up and down a few times? I already know how to have fun thanks and don't need this forced jollity foisted upon me.Hoopdriver wrote:
Have you been making a wide-eyed, slack-jawed, drool-chinned national embarrassment of yourself? I haven't been, but of course I'm not English either. Nevertheless I do intend to enjoy the pageantryCressers wrote:The North Koreans at least have a good reason to participate, they'll get sent to a labour camp or be shot if they don't. What's our excuse for making wide-eyed, slack-jawed, drool-chinned national embarrassments of ourselves?
Go to work and keep out of the way then you miserable bugger!!
Nobody is forcing anyone to party - the joys of living in the UK. I'm riding a sportive while hopefully the masses are at home watching TV or having their parties.0 -
Vesterberg wrote:I just don't need to be told when to have fun, how to have fun and for what reasons. Waving little flags at a pensioner in a hat that I have nothing to do with is just not my cup of tea old bean.
I wasnt aware that anyone in the UK had been told to have fun?? We're told to have a Bank Holiday but what we do with it is optional - so why all the complaining??0 -
beleive it or not, there are some wierdos out there who beleive that at the heart of all the 'pageantry' and mass hysteria, are some important points about monarchy, rights to rule, inherited power and wealth etc...doesn't make us raving commies or miserable sods however much you might like to beleive that.Wirral_Paul wrote:so why all the complaining??
It might be more pertinent to ask 'why all the fuss'?0 -
'dont forget lads, one evertonian is worth twenty kopites'0
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Wirral_Paul wrote:Vesterberg wrote:
What is to enjoy about 'the pageantry'? I wonder? The obligatory little flags to hang on your privet hedge? getting the doillies and best china out and having the WI around to watch her madge parade up and down a few times? I already know how to have fun thanks and don't need this forced jollity foisted upon me.Hoopdriver wrote:
Have you been making a wide-eyed, slack-jawed, drool-chinned national embarrassment of yourself? I haven't been, but of course I'm not English either. Nevertheless I do intend to enjoy the pageantryCressers wrote:The North Koreans at least have a good reason to participate, they'll get sent to a labour camp or be shot if they don't. What's our excuse for making wide-eyed, slack-jawed, drool-chinned national embarrassments of ourselves?
Go to work and keep out of the way then you miserable bugger!!
Nobody is forcing anyone to party - the joys of living in the UK. I'm riding a sportive while hopefully the masses are at home watching TV or having their parties.
Lovely clear roads...0 -
fast as fupp wrote:
that is brilliantThe dissenter is every human being at those moments of his life when he resigns
momentarily from the herd and thinks for himself.0 -
Vesterberg wrote:
Oh but I'm not a miserable bugger - I just don't need to be told when to have fun, how to have fun and for what reasons. Waving little flags at a pensioner in a hat that I have nothing to do with is just not my cup of tea old bean.Wirral_Paul wrote:Vesterberg wrote:
What is to enjoy about 'the pageantry'? I wonder? The obligatory little flags to hang on your privet hedge? getting the doillies and best china out and having the WI around to watch her madge parade up and down a few times? I already know how to have fun thanks and don't need this forced jollity foisted upon me.Hoopdriver wrote:
Have you been making a wide-eyed, slack-jawed, drool-chinned national embarrassment of yourself? I haven't been, but of course I'm not English either. Nevertheless I do intend to enjoy the pageantryCressers wrote:The North Koreans at least have a good reason to participate, they'll get sent to a labour camp or be shot if they don't. What's our excuse for making wide-eyed, slack-jawed, drool-chinned national embarrassments of ourselves?
Go to work and keep out of the way then you miserable bugger!!
Nobody is forcing anyone to party - the joys of living in the UK. I'm riding a sportive while hopefully the masses are at home watching TV or having their parties.
I think it needs repeating, no-one is telling you to do anything. Enjoy your weekend, whatever you choose to do with it.0 -
Not sure if youve ever seen any of Vesterberg's previous posts. Little tip for you -dont let the nutter on the bus catch your eye. Death or Glory- Just another Story0
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Well - it's really not for me this Jubilee weekend or the monarchy thing for that.
Fine: if Queenie UK PLC makes a profit for the country then so be it then it would be daft to stop it. Lord knows how such figures are calculated though.
What I do not understand is the awe that some people display towards this very lucky family. By doing no more than being conceived in the right womb these people have fallen right on their feet.
Let's be honest here, they have wonderful lives, they have more, see more, do more than most people can ever dream of. Their jobs are not difficult. They want for absolutely nothing. They do not lead stressed lives. They are 100% bleedin' lucky.
And what's with the rose tinted spec's thing. The Queen is a sourpuss that looks ill at ease with 'commoners', the DoE is an insulting fruitcake, Charlie is away with the fairies and is an arrogant *wat to boot, Andy is a freeloader, Harry is an insensitive dope and Willy's claim to fame is pinning down the lovely Kate.
And, yet the media (most) and the toadies would have you believe that this motley crew are all, beautiful, handsome, clever, witty benefactors that have the needs of 'the people' at heart.
Why anyone would want to celebrate this family is beyond me.0 -
fast as fupp wrote:
Completely spot on. People need to stand back for while are realise what nonsense it all is.
I also find it sad that England (won't include the others) seem to find this the only way they can celebrate anything together.
And don't get me started on the bbc. The sycophantic rubbish they've been trotting out is embarrassing!
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I don't know what the issue is. Does the Monarchy actually adversley effect anyone's life ? If you believe that it does adversely effect your life, then you need to get a life !
If you don't like it, fine, but there's no need to get your ar*e in your hands about it. Let the people who do like it enjoy it.
If you want your £1.33 per year back, I suggest that you campaign about something which costs substantially more and doesn't generate any contribution, such a benefit fraud.Science adjusts it’s beliefs based on what’s observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved0 -
MattC59 wrote:I don't know what the issue is. Does the Monarchy actually adversley effect anyone's life ? If you believe that it does adversely effect your life, then you need to get a life !
If you don't like it, fine, but there's no need to get your ar*e in your hands about it. Let the people who do like it enjoy it.
If you want your £1.33 per year back, I suggest that you campaign about something which costs substantially more and doesn't generate any contribution, such a benefit fraud.
maybe matt, some folk object to what they stand for. privilege, imperialism and oppression,. a nation where being born with a silver spoon in your gob counts for everthing, a nation where the divide between the rich and the poor grows bigger every day, a nation which busses unpaid workers into london to act as slave labour on security for the royal junket, a nation which wages war on your awful benefit fraudsters (and the disabled) while allowing rich individuals and corporations to escape their tax burden. a nation which has sold off its industry and infrastructure to the highest bidder. a nation where poverty and crime are rampant.
but throw a royal shebang and everthing in the garden is rosy!
and ive got a life-thanks for your concern.'dont forget lads, one evertonian is worth twenty kopites'0 -
MattC59 wrote:some folk object to what they stand for. priviledge, imperialism and oppression,. a nation where being born with a silver spoon in your gob counts for everthing, a nation where the divide between the rich and the poor grows bigger every day, a nation which busses unpaid workers into london to act as slave labour on security for the royal junket, a nation which wages war on your awful benefit fraudsters (and the disabled) while allowing rich individuals and corporations to escape their tax burden. a nation which has sold off its industry and infrastructure to the highest bidder. a nation where poverty and crime are rampant.
but throw a royal shebang and everthing in the garden is rosy!
Exactly. It's intriguing that supporters of the monarchy rely on pragmatism to justify the whole nonsense ("it costs just a nominal sum....blahblahblah") yet remain true to principial when attacking their pet hate, -given the political bent of those given to offer support to spoilt, undeserving people of mediocrity and their many hangers-on in the civil list- usually the unemployed and the disadvantaged. Benefit fraud costs rather less than 0,5% of the entire benefits budget, and the emotion and resources flung at this problem is disproportionate. Put some effort into investigating the true cost of our sclerotic civil list, and look at the response you'll get.........0 -
MattC59 wrote:I don't know what the issue is. Does the Monarchy actually adversley effect anyone's life ? If you believe that it does adversely effect your life, then you need to get a life !
If you don't like it, fine, but there's no need to get your ar*e in your hands about it. Let the people who do like it enjoy it.
If you want your £1.33 per year back, I suggest that you campaign about something which costs substantially more and doesn't generate any contribution, such a benefit fraud.
I would just prefer to have a say in who represents me as head of state, if that's OK with you.0 -
fast as fupp wrote:MattC59 wrote:I don't know what the issue is. Does the Monarchy actually adversley effect anyone's life ? If you believe that it does adversely effect your life, then you need to get a life !
If you don't like it, fine, but there's no need to get your ar*e in your hands about it. Let the people who do like it enjoy it.
If you want your £1.33 per year back, I suggest that you campaign about something which costs substantially more and doesn't generate any contribution, such a benefit fraud.
maybe matt, some folk object to what they stand for. privilege, imperialism and oppression,. a nation where being born with a silver spoon in your gob counts for everthing, a nation where the divide between the rich and the poor grows bigger every day, a nation which busses unpaid workers into london to act as slave labour on security for the royal junket, a nation which wages war on your awful benefit fraudsters (and the disabled) while allowing rich individuals and corporations to escape their tax burden. a nation which has sold off its industry and infrastructure to the highest bidder. a nation where poverty and crime are rampant.
but throw a royal shebang and everthing in the garden is rosy!
and ive got a life-thanks for your concern.
Oppression............ really ???
Sorry, I forgot; all of the above issues go away as soon as you have an elected head of state.
I didn't realise that the royal security was unpaid workers bussed in, can you give an example ?
Can yo ualso give me an example of anywhere (excluding the security point) that doesnt' have the above issues ?
What hes the UKs industry being sold off to do with the Royals ? Do you honestly think that was anything to do with them ?Science adjusts it’s beliefs based on what’s observed.
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Then what are they for? An elected representative would have some role as a force of temperance to our increasaingly alienated and alineating Governments.MattC59 wrote:What hes the UKs industry being sold off to do with the Royals ? Do you honestly think that was anything to do with them ?0 -
pliptrot wrote:MattC59 wrote:some folk object to what they stand for. priviledge, imperialism and oppression,. a nation where being born with a silver spoon in your gob counts for everthing, a nation where the divide between the rich and the poor grows bigger every day, a nation which busses unpaid workers into london to act as slave labour on security for the royal junket, a nation which wages war on your awful benefit fraudsters (and the disabled) while allowing rich individuals and corporations to escape their tax burden. a nation which has sold off its industry and infrastructure to the highest bidder. a nation where poverty and crime are rampant.
but throw a royal shebang and everthing in the garden is rosy!
Exactly. It's intriguing that supporters of the monarchy rely on pragmatism to justify the whole nonsense ("it costs just a nominal sum....blahblahblah") yet remain true to principial when attacking their pet hate, -given the political bent of those given to offer support to spoilt, undeserving people of mediocrity and their many hangers-on in the civil list- usually the unemployed and the disadvantaged. Benefit fraud costs rather less than 0,5% of the entire benefits budget, and the emotion and resources flung at this problem is disproportionate. Put some effort into investigating the true cost of our sclerotic civil list, and look at the response you'll get.........
Yup. Not exactly surprise of the century that MattC59 is an arch royalist - but well done Matt for managing to get a side swipe in at the poor while you were at it.0 -
pliptrot wrote:
Then what are they for? An elected representative would have some role as a force of temperance to our increasaingly alienated and alineating Governments.MattC59 wrote:What hes the UKs industry being sold off to do with the Royals ? Do you honestly think that was anything to do with them ?
So you think that the war criminal that is Tony Blair would have been a good representative ?Science adjusts it’s beliefs based on what’s observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved0 -
Vesterberg wrote:pliptrot wrote:MattC59 wrote:some folk object to what they stand for. priviledge, imperialism and oppression,. a nation where being born with a silver spoon in your gob counts for everthing, a nation where the divide between the rich and the poor grows bigger every day, a nation which busses unpaid workers into london to act as slave labour on security for the royal junket, a nation which wages war on your awful benefit fraudsters (and the disabled) while allowing rich individuals and corporations to escape their tax burden. a nation which has sold off its industry and infrastructure to the highest bidder. a nation where poverty and crime are rampant.
but throw a royal shebang and everthing in the garden is rosy!
Exactly. It's intriguing that supporters of the monarchy rely on pragmatism to justify the whole nonsense ("it costs just a nominal sum....blahblahblah") yet remain true to principial when attacking their pet hate, -given the political bent of those given to offer support to spoilt, undeserving people of mediocrity and their many hangers-on in the civil list- usually the unemployed and the disadvantaged. Benefit fraud costs rather less than 0,5% of the entire benefits budget, and the emotion and resources flung at this problem is disproportionate. Put some effort into investigating the true cost of our sclerotic civil list, and look at the response you'll get.........
Yup. Not exactly surprise of the century that MattC59 is an arch royalist - but well done Matt for managing to get a side swipe in at the poor while you were at it.
And my side swipe was ?
Not an arch royalist, just don't see the issue.
You'll also notice that, no where did I write what you have quoted above. I thought you were better at trolling than that ?Science adjusts it’s beliefs based on what’s observed.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/jun/0 ... unemployed
why do royalists always have to give the example of blair as president?
he WAS the prime-minister- i very much doubt his legacy would lead to him being elected president
and wasnt the british empire founded on conquest and oppression-god save the king/queen and all that
but its all the benefit scroungers fault eh Matt?'dont forget lads, one evertonian is worth twenty kopites'0 -
fast as fupp wrote:http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/jun/04/jubilee-pageant-unemployed
why do royalists always have to give the example of blair as president?
he WAS the prime-minister- i very much doubt his legacy would lead to him being elected president
and wasnt the british empire founded on conquest and oppression-god save the king/queen and all that
but its all the benefit scroungers fault eh Matt?
Ok, how about someone like Thatcher ? or Bush perhaps ? Bush, the elected president who got there because of his father's contacts and influence, Bush who had a second term through dodgy vote counts. Sounds like oppression to me.
Or are you talking about a President who has no political affinity ? Someone who is impartial and is just ceremonial ?
You're right the British Empire was founded on conquest and oppression, but was is the operative word here. Exactly how much oppression does the Royal family impose on you or others ?
At what point did I say it's the benefit scrounger's fault ? And exactly what is 'it' that you refer to as the benefit scrounger's fault ? If you're refering to my comment about benefit fraud, then maybe you should look into the difference between a benefit 'scrounger' as you put it, and a benefit fraudster.
In your previous post, in response to my comment you mention that you do have a life. I assume that as you posted that, you believe that the monarchy does adversley effect your life. Don't take this as just trying to wind you up, but I'm interested to know how.
I'm also still interested to know about the bus loads of unpaid slave labour you refer to which forms the royal security.Science adjusts it’s beliefs based on what’s observed.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/jun/0 ... unemployed
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