Russians Doping.

rick_chasey

Denis Galimzyanov (Katusha) done for EPO.

Standard....

Turfle

EPO? Really, Denis?

calvjones

Rick Chasey wrote:

Denis Galimzyanov (Katusha) done for EPO.

Standard....

EPO? Sooo last Tuesday.

They'll be wearing mullets next.

Eh?

Oh.

Turfle

calvjones wrote:

Rick Chasey wrote:

Denis Galimzyanov (Katusha) done for EPO.

Standard....

EPO? Sooo last Tuesday.

They'll be wearing mullets next.

Eh?

Oh.

Nice.

I may well be conflating it with the Kittel story from earlier in the year, but wasn't there something about Galimzyanov earlier in the year?

Pokerface

Turfle wrote:

calvjones wrote:

Rick Chasey wrote:

Denis Galimzyanov (Katusha) done for EPO.

Standard....

EPO? Sooo last Tuesday.

They'll be wearing mullets next.

Eh?

Oh.

Nice.

I may well be conflating it with the Kittel story from earlier in the year, but wasn't there something about Galimzyanov earlier in the year?

And didn't he start winning out of the blue at the end of last year?

rebs

This has nothing to do with me watching Rock4 last night? :P

I like a good conspiracy of a high end Russian Doping program being used. Chances he'll be let off the hook? Perhaps he'll be able to keep on racing till 2045 then decide to ban him for 6 months.. you know to cut him down in his prime... :P

MrTapir

Wasn't Michael Ashenden talking about EPO being used not as a direct performance enhancer but for a cover for something else?

RichN95.

I wonder if the Russian government will give him a medal like Kolobnev

dave_1

MrTapir wrote:

Wasn't Michael Ashenden talking about EPO being used not as a direct performance enhancer but for a cover for something else?

I read that Ashenden credits Landis with explaining that EPO microdosing was being used to stimulate bone marrow to make new red cells in order to mask the signature of blood transfusion which is the shut down of new red cell growth.

Yellow Peril

Rick, have you been awarded the "Maillot Rouge" for your name in your role as a Mod or is it just to add to the whole Russian theme of this thread? It looks very smart.

rick_chasey

Yellow Peril wrote:

Rick, have you been awarded the "Maillot Rouge" for your name in your role as a Mod or is it just to add to the whole Russian theme of this thread? It looks very smart.

Haha.

Well I am known for my satorial elegance and red trousers, but no, I am now an admin not just a mod...

Anonymous

Rick Chasey wrote:

Yellow Peril wrote:

Rick, have you been awarded the "Maillot Rouge" for your name in your role as a Mod or is it just to add to the whole Russian theme of this thread? It looks very smart.

Haha.

Well I am known for my satorial elegance and red trousers, but no, I am now an admin not just a mod...

can you ban me now?

MrTapir

Dave_1 wrote:

MrTapir wrote:

Wasn't Michael Ashenden talking about EPO being used not as a direct performance enhancer but for a cover for something else?

I read that Ashenden credits Landis with explaining that EPO microdosing was being used to stimulate bone marrow to make new red cells in order to mask the signature of blood transfusion which is the shut down of new red cell growth.

Yes thats right, its in that long interview with velonews or cyclosm or some such e-journal. Not an exact science by any means i seem to recall though

rick_chasey

FlipFlopper wrote:

Rick Chasey wrote:

Yellow Peril wrote:

Rick, have you been awarded the "Maillot Rouge" for your name in your role as a Mod or is it just to add to the whole Russian theme of this thread? It looks very smart.

Haha.

Well I am known for my satorial elegance and red trousers, but no, I am now an admin not just a mod...

can you ban me now?

Why, what have you done?

No_Ta_Doctor

Rick Chasey wrote:

FlipFlopper wrote:

Rick Chasey wrote:

Yellow Peril wrote:

Rick, have you been awarded the "Maillot Rouge" for your name in your role as a Mod or is it just to add to the whole Russian theme of this thread? It looks very smart.

Haha.

Well I am known for my satorial elegance and red trousers, but no, I am now an admin not just a mod...

can you ban me now?

Why, what have you done?

He doesn't like Boonen.

rick_chasey

No tA Doctor wrote:

Rick Chasey wrote:

FlipFlopper wrote:

Rick Chasey wrote:

Yellow Peril wrote:

Rick, have you been awarded the "Maillot Rouge" for your name in your role as a Mod or is it just to add to the whole Russian theme of this thread? It looks very smart.

Haha.

Well I am known for my satorial elegance and red trousers, but no, I am now an admin not just a mod...

can you ban me now?

Why, what have you done?

He doesn't like Boonen.

skylla

MrTapir wrote:

Dave_1 wrote:

MrTapir wrote:

Wasn't Michael Ashenden talking about EPO being used not as a direct performance enhancer but for a cover for something else?

I read that Ashenden credits Landis with explaining that EPO microdosing was being used to stimulate bone marrow to make new red cells in order to mask the signature of blood transfusion which is the shut down of new red cell growth.

Yes thats right, its in that long interview with velonews or cyclosm or some such e-journal. Not an exact science by any means i seem to recall though

Micro-dosing EPO (e.g. off-season) also makes sense to inflate hematocrit and mimic those levels when blood-doping is applied. This way, no fluctuations are prevalent on the bio-passport you see 8)

LangerDan

Good to see that Hans -Michael Holczer hasn't lost the knack. To paraphrase Oscar Wilde
"To have one squad test positive may be regarded as a misfortune; to have both looks like carelessness".

And unsuprisingly, he was recommended to Katusha by our good buddies in Aigle

iainf72

skylla wrote:

Micro-dosing EPO (e.g. off-season) also makes sense to inflate hematocrit and mimic those levels when blood-doping is applied. This way, no fluctuations are prevalent on the bio-passport you see 8)

You should read the Ashenden interview. The passport doesn't look at HCT really as it's unreliable. You use EPO when blood doping to make sure the ratio of new red blood cells vs mature red blood cells is right.

It's not just a simple "more red blood cells" debate.

skylla

iainf72 wrote:

skylla wrote:

Micro-dosing EPO (e.g. off-season) also makes sense to inflate hematocrit and mimic those levels when blood-doping is applied. This way, no fluctuations are prevalent on the bio-passport you see 8)

You should read the Ashenden interview. The passport doesn't look at HCT really as it's unreliable. You use EPO when blood doping to make sure the ratio of new red blood cells vs mature red blood cells is right.

It's not just a simple "more red blood cells" debate.

I never said that it is so simple, hence I used the word "also", i.e. in addition. The biopassport looks, among other things, at personal hematocrit levels in time for each and every rider, i.e. passport...

Here's a quote:

ashenden wrote:

There is no doubt whatsoever that the Passport is a better approach than the hematocrit rule, but just because it is better does not mean it is perfect. So yes it is true that riders are still doping. I don't know that it can automatically be assumed that they are doing so at a lower level - I think it is more likely to be correct that they are doping in a different manner! For example, altering the doses of EPO to reduce fluctuations in blood results, or using transfusions shortly before/after events to avoid being tested with elevated blood levels."

r0bh

He's copped to it in a letter to Katusha mgmt apparently, won't request B sample test. See https://twitter.com/#!/Laura_Meseguer

rick_chasey

r0bh wrote:

He's copped to it in a letter to Katusha mgmt apparently, won't request B sample test. See https://twitter.com/#!/Laura_Meseguer

Like they didn't know already

rick_chasey

bompington

Rick Chasey wrote:

Ahhh, that explains everything

MrTapir

Rick Chasey wrote:

No tA Doctor wrote:

Rick Chasey wrote:

FlipFlopper wrote:

Rick Chasey wrote:

Yellow Peril wrote:

Rick, have you been awarded the "Maillot Rouge" for your name in your role as a Mod or is it just to add to the whole Russian theme of this thread? It looks very smart.

Haha.

Well I am known for my satorial elegance and red trousers, but no, I am now an admin not just a mod...

can you ban me now?

Why, what have you done?

He doesn't like Boonen.

Thats brilliant

Pokerface

Rick Chasey wrote:

Translation:


I, the undersigned Denis Galimzyanov, rider of Katusha Team, want to clear up the current matter with my positive doping test. On March 22, 2012, being in Italy, I received a visit from anti-doping control officers in an out of competition time. A month later, a urine sample taken during that visit indicated EPO.

I recognize a fact of banned substance usage.

I fully realized what I did.

I deeply regret about what happened, and I apologize to the whole team and my teammates, along with my fans whom I disappointed.

I am ready to suffer an appropriate punishment.

I would like to draw A PARTICULAR ATTENTION for that fact that Katusha Team has nothing to do with what happened. No team member knew and could know about what I did. It was my personal decision and my responsibility.

I refuse from my right to request and attend the analysis of my B sample.”

April 17, 2012

prawny

Have they tested the paper for drips of sweat and/or gunshot residue?

prawny

r0bh wrote:

He's copped to it in a letter to Katusha mgmt apparently, won't request B sample test. See https://twitter.com/#!/Laura_Meseguer

Crikey, I might follow her jus so her picture pops up in my feed! ♥

skylla

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwZhaQS97aw

Couldn't find the english version, but you get the drift.....

avoidingmyphd

Does anyone else think that looks a bit like PROTESTING TOO MUCH?

iainf72

Does anyone actually think we see team wide doping now.... I can't see it.

Katusha are dodgy but I doubt they handed him a needle loaded with EPO.